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Glider Abuse
03/08/12 at 21:36:52
 
TellTale wrote on 08/23/11 at 20:46:36:
I can see glider being completely abused though.


TellTale wrote on 09/12/11 at 13:22:33:
I've said it 5-6 times so far, but I'll make this one more official.  Mark my words Glider will be heavily abused and future WRs will spend nearly the whole course in glide mode.  Game will then suck.


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This one particular technique is debatably faster at this spot on RRM, but if performed better has serious potential.  I've gotten bounces like this before but never ones where I actually kept the glide after bouncing upwards.  I can think of a ton of other places on different tracks where this would be substantially faster...(like dk jungle at the last turn end of the lap to jump the whole gap for example, etc).  By the way this is extremely hard to perform and I can't replicate it.

EDIT - Also for those skeptics out there, this is not just a glider bounce where you hit the ground and gain air again.  In this video I actually get the landing boost and sound effect and then go back up into the air and am pushed forward at a high speed.  Without sound it is harder to tell, but you can still see the air speed increase in the video.  To get this I had the glider at a strange angle coming into the ground then hopped at the perfect frame as the kart back wheels hit the ground then and maybe aimed very slightly up again (I guess, hard to recollect my exact inputs).  I could not replicate this, and it surely is faster everywhere in the game, especially if done with a nice approach and a bigger boost and bounce may be possible who knows.
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Re: Glider Abuse
Reply #1 - 03/08/12 at 21:51:36
 
I believe this is how the glider bounce on BC works actually, though your particular instance is weird since it's on even terrain. Did you press R upon landing ? A third-person view could have been interesting.
I can't tell if it's faster, but it definitely could be if well executed, yeah.
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Re: Glider Abuse
Reply #2 - 03/08/12 at 21:53:15
 
Ya I pressed R at landing.  It is a very strange thing though.
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Reply #3 - 03/08/12 at 22:24:20
 
Oh, I did this many times accidently, all you need is perfect timing R press, and the angle doesn't really matter. IIRC it's not faster nor slower.
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Reply #4 - 03/08/12 at 23:16:03
 
I think that may be the same trick as hopping the gorge in rMG shroomless after tricking off a red mushroom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YSoMH822Dw0#t=10s
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Reply #5 - 03/08/12 at 23:40:55
 
Ebil wrote on 03/08/12 at 23:16:03:
I think that may be the same trick as hopping the gorge in rMG shroomless after tricking off a red mushroom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YSoMH822Dw0#t=10s

Some people can get this SC shroomless without even touching the ground before the gap so both are possible on this track.
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Reply #6 - 03/09/12 at 03:23:58
 
Mick wrote on 03/08/12 at 21:51:36:
I believe this is how the glider bounce on BC works actually

no it’s not? on BC you just press down before hitting ground, like a normal glider bounce

I’ve never tried pressing R for glider bounces, Mick says it’s the same speed but that vid looks faster to me
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Reply #7 - 03/09/12 at 07:27:25
 
Sounds interesting for KD.
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Reply #8 - 03/09/12 at 10:05:48
 
Actually it seems Mick might be right.  I did it twice more this time against a ghost.

First off you need to perform a lower than average trick by landing higher up on the wooden ramp and tricking on it.  This is overall slower so some time is lost there.  Next you have to position the glider by aiming upwards.  Doing this you lose a lot more time than I initially though, so that is more time lost there.  Finally you hop and get the boost which gains quite a bit.  However I ended up slightly behind my ghost after beginning on even terms in both attempts.  So this troublesome technique may fortunately be slower, in this case on RRM.

However, I know for sure this would be faster in other situations when you need to cut a corner or cut some offroad.  For straight strips of normal driving surfaces like this one on RRM it's probably useless, but this would certainly be faster on many spots on many tracks and I think this proves it can be done anywhere on any surface.  You do need to have a decent amount of airspeed though it seems.
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Reply #9 - 03/09/12 at 13:40:04
 
I've always been pressing R off the ground on the last glider of the lap (not quite sure if that's what people have always been doing, it's hard to tell)  Not sure if that actually saves time or not.
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Re: Glider Abuse
Reply #10 - 03/09/12 at 14:49:09
 
Danny G wrote on 03/09/12 at 13:40:04:
I've always been pressing R off the ground on the last glider of the lap (not quite sure if that's what people have always been doing, it's hard to tell)  Not sure if that actually saves time or not.


That's half of the new strat.  (the easier to do half)
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