Tom1 wrote on 12/09/11 at 11:06:53:

:'(
and I'm about to start working this Monday (may not be playing MK this often anymore unless otherwise)

I actually never said a collective wanted him off the players' page on the basis of finding him annoying, but people have expressedly stated that they want his posting benefits removed from specific sections of the boards publicly here on the forums, which is saying something for the attitude people have towards him and how willing they are to flaunt that sentiment, all of which gives an idea of how much of this Terrence has to endure. (While, interestingly, nobody seems to find it out of place, given the (lack of) reaction from both those in charge of the forum moderation, and others part of the conversation.)

Terrence proves all of his times, many want him off the site bacause he may cheat and has on several occasions in the past. He's not a criminal putting others at risk, just putting that out there for a bit of perspective and reflection on magnitude and severity. The established proof system should be enough to keep him in check, otherwise those believing differently could have/would have voiced concerns about its inadequacies, perhaps in the spirit of constructivity suggesting other better methods for ensuring that cheating is avoided.

The streamed/video proof is the highest proof degree available within our community bar visiting someone to set streamed times. Apparently this is not to be trusted, at least not to the point that Terrence can remain on the site, even though most people trust his current time catalogue to be completely genuine. This is where I would see conflict in making generous room for his ability and potential to cheat. What is to be trusted apparently, is that he may, very much so, cheat and to prevent this best we can, it is best to not let him on the site at all, instead of relying on video evidence for every time and Terrence's spotless compliance towards our specially crafted guidelines.  "I believe his timeset is well legitimate and he has very strict condictions and proof regulations to meet for acceptance, but because he may cheat, I want him off the site." </fictive quote> This, I don't agree with, and find slightly sad.


Andreas

I'd say Etch is a fair bet.  

When I get some money, I'll buy another DS and manage to do a livestream!  

@KVD, Mario and Karterfreak, I'm sorry for cheating in the past.  I'm a changed man, for real. Ever since I joined the PP, I haven't posted BS on MKSC (hell, i even manage to upload my 80/80 prs)
@Tom, MVT, Tyler and others, don't worry dudes...Ima manage a time for you guys to see my livestream b4 it kills me

That's a very sharp observation/statement actually Fried, I agree 100%.

@ the pro-Fenner camp, I don't think that's necessarily a bad sign.
Terrence is really doing well in regaining trust recently (SNESOT, why not CDM one day), so I'm not pessimistic about the case at all.
Ideally what everyone wants is a fully redeemed site champion of course,one that is legit and trusted by everyone. I don't think that's impossible for T by say 2013.

Enjolras = Neo
Combeferre = Me
Courfeyrac = Karel
Feuilly = Timur

[quote author=685A56523B0 link=1323377438/25#43 date=1323454937]Detective Spril wrote on 12/09/11 at 08:04:38:


Yea, that was it

Anyway, Fenner is officially off the site now.

Alicia Kart wrote on 12/09/11 at 16:36:17:


This sounds awfully familiar. When you, Karel, neo all said you wanted your times removed until fenners times were proven. He did that and then everyone moved the goal posts.

For what it's worth I'll day right here right now that Terence fenner is the best, proven, mksc player in the world.

I wonder if mario86 or neo would post that.  

Tom1 wrote on 12/10/11 at 01:34:46:


edit - oh and the bitching cunts on this board are a complete joke

Yeah at least I don't cry and blackmail to get my way on a game that I'm complete shit at. Way to fucking slap Terrence in the face because you can't get enough of Seb's dick, even though he is the most proven player on the board. What a fucking joke.

This post pretty much justifies the lack of credit I give doesn't it? You spent exactly zero words on Hahaae's post, eventhough it's at least as rude, if not ruder than what I've seen directed at Terrence.

I have seen offensive behaviour against T as well of course, it's impossible to deny that, so I acknowledge your sentiments in that regard. This attitude towards him has nothing to do with why most us wanted his times removed though, I for one have no personal beef with T at all, and wanted him suspended only on the merits of the arguments I have provided.

@ Haha, I don't give two flying pigs about SeB's ranking. You should know Germans and Dutchies don't care much for eachothers achievements in the arenas of gaming & sports (understatement  ). The only reason I was upset with Terrence is that he passed Alvin van Asselt.  

Fair enough, I stand corrected.
It was just that I never saw you go off on a verbal crusade versus people that are offensive, but on the same side of the playing field as you (if that's a correct way to describe it).

But you're right, your posting habits shouldn't be a topic and I should give you the benefit of the doubt, as you do come accross as a logically resonating individual.

Unlike some others here...*cough*