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Reply #825 - 08/10/12 at 07:43:45
 
^seems useless

@Jarv: you take all 3 coins anyway in your WR, can you even do it tight enough to miss the 3rd? I’d like a comparison vid
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Reply #826 - 08/11/12 at 17:00:34
 
Confirmed. Using MW glider strat is faster than the second glitch in MW glitch. It saves 0"1XX. And I think that is possible to get two coins in tha air ring of coins after the glider bounce, in order to save more time. I will try to perform this strat and use it to get the WR.

PD: bad news. Impossible to get the two coins in the air and to do a glider trick at the same time. The coins are high, and is impossible to tilt back the kart in the air to do the trick without to close the glider.
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Reply #827 - 08/12/12 at 04:43:40
 
You can also get the glider trick by having a steep angle down relative to the ramp, not only by leaning back. This is how it works on other tracks (MC, RRM, RR...) at least.
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Reply #828 - 08/12/12 at 11:28:05
 
Here is the comparision of the CM strats

As you can see going to the right on 2nd lap seems much slower, i doubt im doing it so bad to lose such a big amount of time.
Im not sure about the other strat but I think its a little bit slower.  Undecided
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Reply #829 - 08/12/12 at 11:31:00
 
^you did it badly

1st: you should go on the right banister, not left one

2nd: you should make a trick coming off of it too, not just going onto it

edit: the 2nd part seems more interesting, not sure what to think (and I still believe adding a trick while taking the middle path is faster… just hard to do well)
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Reply #830 - 08/12/12 at 11:45:44
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/12/12 at 11:31:00:
^you did it badly

1st: you should go on the right banister, not left one

2nd: you should make a trick coming off of it too, not just going onto it

These things wont make the strat faster than the current WR strat
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Reply #831 - 08/12/12 at 12:12:26
 
MK7 =/= MKW, Alaktorn.

- The escalator is slighty faster in MK7 than in MKW
- Tricks aren't as powerful at all than in MKW
- In MKW bikes are faster and with them it is very important to go straight as long as possible because of wheelie power. So with karts going for the left escalotor instead of the bannister isn't detrimential because you don't have to break the wheelie line in the case of bikes.

All in all current escalator strategy is faster.
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Reply #832 - 08/12/12 at 13:26:18
 
I wasn’t comparing it to MKW, I was just wondering
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Reply #833 - 08/12/12 at 14:45:06
 
exactly how do you do the spiral properly on rAF? currently i'm pressing b once after i charge the SMT, i've been sucking at that track recently and i have a feeling it's because i'm not doing that part right.  Smiley
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Reply #834 - 08/12/12 at 15:09:57
 
Adro and Branlo should help you better than me but here is what I do, it helped me a lot to improve my time:

When you land, start your MT and go immediatly to the very left, stuck to the wall. Now you just have to press B as soon as you get away from the wall. It's actually very early, I think I press B just after I got blue sparks. Remember that you want to stay to the very left, mainly at the beginning of the spiral.
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Reply #835 - 08/12/12 at 18:32:01
 
Why is slowfalling faster on maple treeway?  I also saw umbre do it in pps http://youtu.be/eROActH5EQY?t=1m45s

are you supposed to do it when youre going to ground thats beneath you?  that wouldnt make sense then because i know youre not supposed to slowfall on every ramp....
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Reply #836 - 08/12/12 at 19:16:47
 
2nd to last boost ramp (MT): you slowfall because it's a downward facing slope (you do this on every downward facing slope, such as DKJ and DH). You lose time going down these slopes normally. Also, not slowfalling will not use all of the boost from the ramp so the trick boost + boost from ramp will overlap, losing time. On MT, it's incredibly minor, it's not required, but it's just a tad faster.

last boost ramp (MT): if you don't high trick+slowfall, you will land on an upward facing slope, making you lose a lot of time (it's a lot more than you might think)

PPS: because I think I get a little bit of the trick boost if I slowfall
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Reply #837 - 08/13/12 at 16:28:50
 
Ridley_ wrote on 08/12/12 at 15:09:57:
Adro and Branlo should help you better than me but here is what I do, it helped me a lot to improve my time:

When you land, start your MT and go immediatly to the very left, stuck to the wall. Now you just have to press B as soon as you get away from the wall. It's actually very early, I think I press B just after I got blue sparks. Remember that you want to stay to the very left, mainly at the beginning of the spiral.

thanks Ridley, i'll keep that in mind in case i ever get to play again  Cheesy
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Reply #838 - 08/13/12 at 18:48:22
 
On rCM wouldn't it make more sense to use your 2nd and 3rd shroom at the glider out of the mall?  You could get the boost like on dkj, and at the regular shroom spot you don't actually go slower if you don't shroom.

You could also save it for lap 3 incase you go too fast for the escalator on the right.
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Reply #839 - 08/14/12 at 01:14:11
 
OMG...

I'm sure it's possible to get 2 glider boosts in a row on MP... just use the first pilar, shroom and then use the third pilar Smiley Should be 1 second faster.. not to mention that notes position may be better.

I'm also wondering if using the third pilar for the moment - and not the first one - could be faster.
"Shroom then glider boost" seems indeed better than "glider boost + shroom" as the last one cancels the glider boost.
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Reply #840 - 08/14/12 at 04:45:41
 
ItoI6 wrote on 08/13/12 at 18:48:22:
On rCM wouldn't it make more sense to use your 2nd and 3rd shroom at the glider out of the mall?  You could get the boost like on dkj, and at the regular shroom spot you don't actually go slower if you don't shroom.

You could also save it for lap 3 incase you go too fast for the escalator on the right.

I remember testing this and it was slower, but using the shroom before the second scalator could be a good alternative shroomspot for a 1-0-2 strat
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Reply #841 - 08/20/12 at 05:08:50
 
Hey guys, what do you think about this?

MP 1'48"469 by こ~ちぇ~ http://mk7.info/ta/music_park_en

8-10-10 coin strat? What is this? Maybe the two coins at the beginning in the piano?

His BS are the same...

6-10-10
LAP1 00:37.092
LAP2 00:35.861
LAP3 00:35.225
=01:48.178

8-10-10
LAP1 00:37.157
LAP2 00:35.780
LAP3 00:35.225
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Reply #842 - 08/20/12 at 06:20:34
 
Hi, quick noob question, a few of us are playing Luigi Mansion on another forum and wondering why the WR doesn't trick off the top of the ramp entering the castle?
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Reply #843 - 08/20/12 at 06:28:31
 
AdroMaster wrote on 08/20/12 at 05:08:50:
Hey guys, what do you think about this?

MP 1'48"469 by こ~ちぇ~ http://mk7.info/ta/music_park_en

8-10-10 coin strat? What is this? Maybe the two coins at the beginning in the piano?

His BS are the same...

6-10-10
LAP1 00:37.092
LAP2 00:35.861
LAP3 00:35.225
=01:48.178

8-10-10
LAP1 00:37.157
LAP2 00:35.780
LAP3 00:35.225
=01:48.162


it has to either be the two coins on the piano or 2/4 coins on the drum turn (first one sounds more viable)
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Reply #844 - 08/20/12 at 06:51:32
 
Tom1 wrote on 08/20/12 at 06:20:34:
Hi, quick noob question, a few of us are playing Luigi Mansion on another forum and wondering why the WR doesn't trick off the top of the ramp entering the castle?


Its slower
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Reply #845 - 08/20/12 at 07:47:54
 
Marv wrote on 08/20/12 at 06:51:32:
Tom1 wrote on 08/20/12 at 06:20:34:
Hi, quick noob question, a few of us are playing Luigi Mansion on another forum and wondering why the WR doesn't trick off the top of the ramp entering the castle?


Its slower

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Reply #846 - 08/20/12 at 08:14:11
 
but why is it slower? Tricking = quicker no?
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Reply #847 - 08/20/12 at 08:20:56
 
Mick wrote on 08/20/12 at 07:47:54:
Marv wrote on 08/20/12 at 06:51:32:
Tom1 wrote on 08/20/12 at 06:20:34:
Hi, quick noob question, a few of us are playing Luigi Mansion on another forum and wondering why the WR doesn't trick off the top of the ramp entering the castle?


Its slower

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it’s just too hard to do properly, Tom, it’s something you’ll see implemented in a TAS probably

@Adro: taking 2 coins at the beginning of MP sounds like a very good idea, it’s a way to slow down that lets you have more coins as opposed to slowing down taking a turn wide like an idiot Smiley unless I’m forgetting something about coins on MP which could be
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Reply #848 - 08/20/12 at 08:26:36
 
thanks alaktorn,

what makes it slower? The big air?

I seem to be able to get quite a low tick consistently off the top which is massively quicker than fast falling for me.
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Reply #849 - 08/20/12 at 08:37:11
 
random bounces and shit, if you think you can do it well then make a video and we’ll consider
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