like I said, walls aren’t a good method of measurement

your video is disproved easily, try doing the same next to a coin and you’ll see you won’t hit it, and coins are a much better method of measurement

walls are just generally buggy and fucked up in video games, you can’t use them to prove anything

Ufle wrote on 07/18/12 at 05:35:09:

if it were possible, it’d be easy to do

I can’t say for sure it proves they’re circles, but I can’t think otherwise

ItoI6 wrote on 07/26/12 at 20:58:02:


Nah, stick to WR strat.

I've always found that utilizing the 2nd ramp in any way was slower... dating back to tricking off it in December and also the other methods of utilizing it in this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBbGkJXfJ9s

It may have something to do with the uphill right ahead of it causing bad results (ie not allowing full momentum of glider boosts because you land too quick).  Pipe glider boost is slower than first ramp glider boost by a solid .200.  The momentum of a full glider boost off the first ramp carries you quite far and past the next wooden ramp.

You're video is interesting, but I do remember trying that and concluding it was slower than the current strat.  Have at it though.  If you can prove me wrong I'd be happy to see it.  I am pretty confident in the WR method though.

The WR strategy on MP is bollocks lol. I have practised it for about 3 hours today and I still haven't beaten my best split. A lot of trouble for pretty much nothing since I hit the glider push 1 out of 100 times. The only benefit I found so far is easier coin collecting on lap 2.

I'm totally not sure this is the best strategy for lap 1, however I rarely ever get close to Liar on lap 1 with my strat neither. Maybe if I could combine a glider boost with coin collecting I could beat him.

Thoughts ?

TellTale wrote on 07/31/12 at 15:32:20:


Ok, so this was extremely easy to test and extremely easy to come to a conclusion.

The conclusion is that you're friend san is most likely lying to you about his splits or his description is completely inaccurate.  Gliding to the left and boosting off the higher up of the two horizontal pipes literally costs over 1 second.  My WR ghost got so far ahead of me, he became invisible.  I completed 4 lap 1s with this strategy.  42.5 - 42.7 - 42.5 - 42.4.  Compare that with WR split of 40.9.  Sorry, but this is silly and you're friend san either needs to make a video of him using this described strategy and driving a fast split or he needs to stop lying.

TellTale wrote on 07/31/12 at 15:47:13:


yeah..he said something like "i go more to the left of the pipe and get more boost" so i assumed thats what he meant and then later when i tried it i did like way shittier.  I tend to get overzealous about these things i really thought thats what he meant I know that san is telling the truth though he wouldnt lie about his splits this was my mistake.

he had the riw wr that doesnt use the glitch shortcut.  hes from california

MVT while you're still talking about RRM, i've recently been having some trouble with the glider boost. i dive down and actually get the boost, but more often than not the glider cancels for some reason before i hit the ground and  i lose a lot of time, i don't know why it's happening. i was hoping you could help, thanks.  

EDIT: WHOAH, I just got an INSANE glider boost on lap 2, i mean much bigger than any of those in the WR vid. lap was 40'195 (BS) when i usually get "5-6 and I didn't even have 10 coins. I dove down a bit later than usual and pulled up a bit later than usual.

[21:54:21] @ Santos : http://i49.tinypic.com/15nuezb.jpg After leaving 2nd glider the idea is to wait for the right moment&dive down aiming for this spot. Not landing on it but abit in front of it which will boost you by alot if done correctly. Its much faster than boosting off the middle of the pipe (keep in mind i go forward off the spot,i do not go off the 1st ramp like MVT does) but I'm not sure if its faster than WR strat as of right now since I can't do WR strat so I personally can't test it out. My best splits with this way are 40.996,39.700,39.700 with VERY good boosts off the pipe. I haven't come close to the lap 2/3 split in awhile. In fact that was my 1st sub 39.8 lap lol


i tried it a bit got a 41.2 lap 1 and 40.0 lap 2 which is really good for me.  Even when i slowly ease down so its easier for me i got a 41.4 lap 1.  It helps a lot more than you would think.  its hard to get it on the exact spot though.   I swear he said left but apparently he meant right..lol  he said he'll record his next pr.  i will if i get below 2:01.5 shouldnt be too hard i have 2:01.8 now with only one boost over that area.

Also something i want to point out is that even on ground that is completely flat doing a little hop when you land will push you forward a bit.  Lots of japanese players already take advantage of this

http://youtu.be/nV5jPNc5Qb0?t=1m18s

http://youtu.be/WyKZLpZWC64?t=1m54s

but i dont see a lot of other people doing it.  it saves maybe like 1 1/2 kart lengths.

ItoI6 wrote on 07/31/12 at 23:17:18:

called glider hop and it’s as old as the glider bounce

nobody using it is because people are dumb

ItoI6 wrote on 07/31/12 at 23:17:18:

On DKP as well btw.