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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion
Reply #50 - 12/05/11 at 12:06:14
 
<Hutch>: managed to skip both green and red mushies on MG
<Hutch>: on the first set of 3 mushrooms
<Hutch>: trick, hit first red right at the back, then lean back a bit, not sure if faster.
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Reply #51 - 12/05/11 at 16:37:11
 
BEST TIP IN THE WORLD:

TURNING DURING A NON-BOOSTED HOP SLOWS YOU DOWN BY AS MUCH AS ″200 PER HOP, I BROUGHT DOWN MY TC TIME FROM 1′22″1xx TO 1′21″7xx IN ONE TRY THANKS TO THIS


Roy thought it was obvious so he never told me… but it’s so important that if there is even 1 guy not knowing it’s worth spreading <_<

edit: also, Wario/Bowser/Honey Queen are better than Metal Mario, they have a bigger kart and you can get coins much better with them
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Reply #52 - 12/05/11 at 16:39:19
 
Actually I thought you knew it judging from your previous IRC lines, but I've already told you this.
I also thought this was in MKW and people knew about it...

Anyway yes, serious business. It looks like if you drift in midair at MT speed there's no loss of time, by the way.
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Reply #53 - 12/05/11 at 17:44:32
 
further precisation: you need to start turning AFTER you land

me trying to explain TC shroomspot:

02:41.08      ALAKTORN      you need to stay tight before entering it
02:41.14      ALAKTORN      then you keep that tight line, without entering it
02:41.19      ALAKTORN      you enter it wide, then turn tight
02:41.29      ALAKTORN      stay as close as possible to the center pipe while you’re taking it
02:41.33      ALAKTORN      then exit tight from the grass
02:41.37      ALAKTORN      if done well you don’t lose speed
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Reply #54 - 12/05/11 at 18:51:16
 
Nicola wrote on 12/05/11 at 16:39:19:
I also thought this was in MKW and people knew about it...


Sort of, in MKW your MT will charge faster if you delay the turn until just before you land from the hop.
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Reply #55 - 12/05/11 at 18:52:05
 
blahpy wrote on 12/05/11 at 18:51:16:
Nicola wrote on 12/05/11 at 16:39:19:
I also thought this was in MKW and people knew about it...


Sort of, in MKW your MT will charge faster if you delay the turn until just before you land from the hop.

that’s the crucial difference, in this game, you have to turn after you land Roll Eyes

Roy was keeping it a secret!
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Reply #56 - 12/06/11 at 03:15:55
 
BSD is possible with a single, non-boosted hop Grin

this game is awesome

(tested only in 150cc) edit: actually, I think I did it in 100cc…

I still haven’t gotten it with a red MT though… Tongue

edit: disregard this post, I think it was a dream… I posted it because Roy seemed to confirm it, but he meant with a shroom
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Reply #57 - 12/06/11 at 03:39:51
 
sorry, whats bsd?
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Reply #58 - 12/06/11 at 03:41:07
 
Ok so dont start sliding well early for no reason, start the jump-slides later and get the MT out reasonably quick if can?

I only got 1'24" on TC but that was with Red wheels and B Dasher... and the regular gliding thingy (dont have the others yet). And which character should i use?

I dont have that Blue car yet from the 1'21" videos, any idea how much faster it is on this track?

Also i dunno how to approach the shroom corner. Theres 3 pipes i go around, tight enough but when im exiting the sand, a few times it slows a little. Also im entering it quite late just to make sure i dont slow on the far end, but doesnt that cost more time driving on for longer?

Ive watched the video, other than not having the blue car its diffcult to judg what im doing wrong. I get all the 10 coins quickly.
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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion
Reply #59 - 12/06/11 at 03:51:32
 
Blue Shell Dodge, but disregard my previous post

Sami: your kart combination has the current WR, watch Pierrepont’s video
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Reply #60 - 12/06/11 at 03:52:02
 
I've "dodged" a blue shell by being hit by a red shell before. As far as I remember dodging blue shells by hitting items or throwing a banana in front of yourself was already abused in mkds so I don't see why this comes as a surprise? Though I guess it was removed in mkw (I first remembered it after the shell thing in mk7 myself)

I also seem to be about half a second behind each lap on TC, heh. My best lap being 26.847 =/

Edit: For the ramp thing I started pressing down too because I wondered why the CPUs always passed me on them and it seemed to help. Really haven't tested it either though.
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Reply #61 - 12/06/11 at 04:02:45
 
RIW: I saw the Jap’s vid and he shrooms to go on the top path, but I just went to it in 100cc simply by tricking high, maybe there’s a better shroomspot?
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Reply #62 - 12/06/11 at 04:10:15
 
Just read the late turn when drifting thing... God damn the timing is so weird on everything in this game. Startboost being earlier and boost when landing after being brought back on stage by lakitu being later (also after you land)... Messes up my angles a bit, but I can definetly see it helps, heh. Guess this might have been what made me think you lost speed if you didn't drive a little straight after releasing your MT (I believe it is like this in mk64?)
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Reply #63 - 12/06/11 at 04:13:14
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 12/06/11 at 03:51:32:
Blue Shell Dodge, but disregard my previous post

Sami: your kart combination has the current WR, watch Pierrepont’s video


Simply cant tell what im doing wrong then... ive only watched Roys vid i think on the WR thread.
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Reply #64 - 12/06/11 at 04:14:57
 
Sami de la SMK wrote on 12/06/11 at 04:13:14:
ive only watched Roys vid i think on the WR thread.

the WR thread has Pierrepont’s vid now

and what everyone is probably doing wrong is turning midair, you need to turn after you land from the hop if you don’t have a boost or you lose speed

@Stelzig: agreed with everything, this game has messed up timings
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Reply #65 - 12/06/11 at 04:16:49
 
^Are you connected online? One of my "7 ghosts" has a time of 1:24 without taking the shroomspot properly (goes wider like the staff ghost), maybe that could help?

Otherwise, I guess it would be easiest to tell you if you uploaded a vid yourself Smiley

The drift thing also seems to make MTs charge alot faster btw. I imagine my 26.847 time would've been pretty badass with this thing, lol. Now I just gotta get used to it Smiley
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Reply #66 - 12/06/11 at 04:36:52
 
stelzig wrote on 12/06/11 at 04:10:15:
Guess this might have been what made me think you lost speed if you didn't drive a little straight after releasing your MT (I believe it is like this in mk64?)

Yeah, I thought this game borrowed a bit from MK64 too. You really lose speed when you turn in this game. Stelzig, you need to be #1 for a day in MK7, too Tongue

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edit: also, Wario/Bowser/Honey Queen are better than Metal Mario, they have a bigger kart and you can get coins much better with them

Woah, I knew they had bigger karts but didn't connect the dots. That's a great idea.
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Reply #67 - 12/06/11 at 04:40:32
 
Some of the stuff it took from mk64 is great. Loved the music after finishing a race in that game Cheesy
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Reply #68 - 12/06/11 at 05:44:46
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 12/05/11 at 16:37:11:
BEST TIP IN THE WORLD:

TURNING DURING A NON-BOOSTED HOP SLOWS YOU DOWN BY AS MUCH AS ″200 PER HOP, I BROUGHT DOWN MY TC TIME FROM 1′22″1xx TO 1′21″7xx IN ONE TRY THANKS TO THIS


Roy thought it was obvious so he never told me… but it’s so important that if there is even 1 guy not knowing it’s worth spreading <_<

edit: also, Wario/Bowser/Honey Queen are better than Metal Mario, they have a bigger kart and you can get coins much better with them

What??

+ Wario is slower than metal Mario... So I guess Bowser's the best...? Undecided
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Reply #69 - 12/06/11 at 05:46:36
 
1. to start a drift, hop, land, then turn, don’t turn midair

2. Wario is the same speed as the other 3, and has a bigger kart like the other 2
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Reply #70 - 12/06/11 at 06:21:00
 
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Reply #71 - 12/06/11 at 06:31:37
 
nice excuse, too bad I don’t buy it

when I asked you help on the track, you said “practice more”, fuck, what a helpful tip that is! Grin

you just wanted to hold onto your stupid BKT and didn’t help others
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ALAKTORN wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:24:31:
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MKW: Held 2 3lap WRs, many Flaps
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Reply #72 - 12/06/11 at 06:44:09
 
Hi.            
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Reply #73 - 12/06/11 at 06:49:59
 
it’s funny how you say you don’t give a fuck about me, but you never helped anybody else who was posting TC PRs in the PR thread Grin

hypocrite much?
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ALAKTORN wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:24:31:
OH YEAH WHY AM I NOT GLOATING MORE

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MKDS: 31 GODs, 28 Myths, 5 Titans, Hold 9 NoPRB CRs, Hold 11 PRB CRs, Hold 2 NoMT WRs, Held 7 NoPRB WRs and 8 Beta WRs
MKW: Held 2 3lap WRs, many Flaps
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Reply #74 - 12/06/11 at 06:53:57
 
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