Mario Kart MB - Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips)

emrald Karter Offline set your soul adrift my butterfly 3139 days karting Nottinghamshire Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1850 - 01/07/17 at 09:18:16 Need some help on MC. I can never make it to the ramp in the grass after the bounce on the mushroom, I always fall short in the grass. I'm pretty sure im doing something wrong but I dont know what
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Trashua King Offline the most trash MK player worships 3176 kartgods USA Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1851 - 01/07/17 at 09:20:26 emrald wrote on 01/07/17 at 09:18:16: Need some help on MC. I can never make it to the ramp in the grass after the bounce on the mushroom, I always fall short in the grass. I'm pretty sure im doing something wrong but I dont know what Try doing a high trick on the ramp before the mushroom.
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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips
Reply #1852 - 01/07/17 at 09:24:04

Trashua wrote on 01/07/17 at 09:20:26:

emrald wrote on 01/07/17 at 09:18:16:

Need some help on MC. I can never make it to the ramp in the grass after the bounce on the mushroom, I always fall short in the grass. I'm pretty sure im doing something wrong but I dont know what Smiley

Try doing a high trick on the ramp before the mushroom.

It's slightly slower though, so if you can, low trick the ramp, turn to the right for a very short time before landing on the mushroom and then high trick the mushroom and hold down (make sure you're not turning at all).

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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips
Reply #1853 - 01/07/17 at 09:34:46

Hugo wrote on 01/07/17 at 09:24:04:

Trashua wrote on 01/07/17 at 09:20:26:

emrald wrote on 01/07/17 at 09:18:16:

Need some help on MC. I can never make it to the ramp in the grass after the bounce on the mushroom, I always fall short in the grass. I'm pretty sure im doing something wrong but I dont know what Smiley

Try doing a high trick on the ramp before the mushroom.

It's slightly slower though, so if you can, low trick the ramp, turn to the right for a very short time before landing on the mushroom and then high trick the mushroom and hold down (make sure you're not turning at all).

I did a couple high tricks and actually went too far Smiley

I'm getting it now, thanks guys Grin

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ADAM-XL King Offline Just some MK7 player, learning other MKs worships 3411 kartgods USA, Iowa Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1854 - 01/09/17 at 13:02:14 I need help with the glider strat on CCL. I have a lot of trouble getting the road rhat leads to the glider ramp after drifting inside of the clamb. Help please?
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Murray Elite Offline 5365 days karting Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1855 - 01/09/17 at 14:03:52 Yeah, I used to struggle with that a lot. I just start holding left as early as possible and I usually get there :b
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Hugo Legend Offline 3670 days karting France Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1856 - 01/09/17 at 21:30:11 Murray wrote on 01/09/17 at 14:03:52: Yeah, I used to struggle with that a lot. I just start holding left as early as possible and I usually get there :b And hold up at the same time
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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips
Reply #1857 - 01/10/17 at 09:39:12

Hugo wrote on 01/09/17 at 21:30:11:

Murray wrote on 01/09/17 at 14:03:52:

Yeah, I used to struggle with that a lot. I just start holding left as early as possible and I usually get there :b

And hold up at the same time Kiss

I try that and half the time it doesnt work anyways. However, i've a bit more of a understanding as of why does/doesnt work now.

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Frederiek Legend Offline Revenge of the Goomba. No more jumping on my head! 3964 days karting Belgium Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1858 - 02/24/17 at 23:59:23 rMC2 1:11.596 with slicks and double trick on the glider bounce https://youtu.be/FAOOznErtbk
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Supy King Offline Evan Wiseman 4273 days karting British Columbia, Canada Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1859 - 02/25/17 at 01:32:34 Frederiek wrote on 02/24/17 at 23:59:23: rMC2 1:11.596 with slicks and double trick on the glider bounce https://youtu.be/FAOOznErtbk Hmm, never seen that double trick before.
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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion
Reply #1860 - 03/18/17 at 23:33:26

ALAKTORN wrote on 12/06/11 at 09:19:02:

^no

inspection of gliders http://youtube.com/watch?v=CzKLUkqXmcw

didn’t watch attentively enough to understand anything though

super old, sorry for bumping, just wanted to point out that the link doesn't work anymore

holy shit thanks for the tip about starting a drift, though. I would have never figured that one out on my own. Hop, land, THEN turn, got it.

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Reply #1861 - 03/18/17 at 23:40:55

stelzig wrote on 12/09/11 at 05:46:15:

It's clearly a shortcut, but nothing severe or anything. Generally they tend to be acceptable when it doesn't involve jumping off the track and letting lakitu pick you up further along the track IMO. Mainly because the lakitu glitches are often a whole lot easier to do and easier to regard as certainly unintentional level design. I also personally like to be able to work and experiment with everything i've been given on a track so if I can make a jump over a gap somehow, like by riding the side of a cliff (like the old GV SC), or doing a jump like the one I do in polar pass in CTR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGaCItZI8Hk#t=25s this SC is pretty hard btw Tongue

) then that is fair play to me... But of course that is also hard to say because sometimes it breaks a course completely and makes you finish it in 10 seconds... So it's hard to make a definition of when it shouldn't be allowed to me Tongue

Also a pretty simple turn it skips anyway, this should only make the track a little harder.

I don't really care if it ends up being regarded as a disallowed SC though.

wait, shit, is the gap cut on the 270 in RIW still considered a disallowed shortcut in no-glitch? my 2'04 relied on that. damn it.

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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion
Reply #1862 - 03/19/17 at 00:59:04

Cubase wrote on 03/18/17 at 23:40:55:

stelzig wrote on 12/09/11 at 05:46:15:

It's clearly a shortcut, but nothing severe or anything. Generally they tend to be acceptable when it doesn't involve jumping off the track and letting lakitu pick you up further along the track IMO. Mainly because the lakitu glitches are often a whole lot easier to do and easier to regard as certainly unintentional level design. I also personally like to be able to work and experiment with everything i've been given on a track so if I can make a jump over a gap somehow, like by riding the side of a cliff (like the old GV SC), or doing a jump like the one I do in polar pass in CTR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGaCItZI8Hk#t=25s this SC is pretty hard btw Tongue

) then that is fair play to me... But of course that is also hard to say because sometimes it breaks a course completely and makes you finish it in 10 seconds... So it's hard to make a definition of when it shouldn't be allowed to me Tongue

Also a pretty simple turn it skips anyway, this should only make the track a little harder.

I don't really care if it ends up being regarded as a disallowed SC though.

wait, shit, is the gap cut on the 270 in RIW still considered a disallowed shortcut in no-glitch? my 2'04 relied on that. damn it.

No, at the moment the shortcut and even the glitch is allowed for RIW nonglitch. Undecided

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Cubase Karter Offline I'm an old man! 2858 days karting The mitten. Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1863 - 04/09/17 at 18:20:23 General advice for any track with water sections: If you can, do a high trick and then hold up as you enter, like you're diving in. You can get a pretty decent boost for it. Though is the glider ramp really faster than the coin ramp in CCL?
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Trashua King Offline the most trash MK player 3176 days karting USA Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1864 - 04/09/17 at 18:22:34 Cubase wrote on 04/09/17 at 18:20:23: Though is the glider ramp really faster than the coin ramp in CCL? It is on L2 and 3 if you do it right.
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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips
Reply #1865 - 04/10/17 at 06:48:10

Cubase wrote on 04/09/17 at 18:20:23:

General advice for any track with water sections: If you can, do a high trick and then hold up as you enter, like you're diving in. You can get a pretty decent boost for it.

Though is the glider ramp really faster than the coin ramp in CCL?

It is, but you shouldn't bother trying it before reaching something like mid 1'34 without it.

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IsaaK. King Offline seen 3299 mj vids	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1866 - 04/15/17 at 07:50:56 Just seen Doco's godly WR on MP. I have a question; has this strat been known for some time or did Doco just invent it?
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Reply #1867 - 04/15/17 at 08:41:43

IsaaK. wrote on 04/15/17 at 07:50:56:

Just seen Doco's godly WR on MP. I have a question; has this strat been known for some time or did Doco just invent it?

I haven't seen that lap 1 piano strat before, but I had the feeling before this day that it isn't impossible to reach the second note in lap 2. I don't say that it was found by me.

Doco made it true.

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Reply #1868 - 06/03/17 at 05:41:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMmrB3dQXU&t=6m08s

AF definitely looks like a shortcut that should be possible without hacks. It’s basically the same thing as NBC, get on a wall, back until you’re angled, shroom big jump. There are also a bunch of other interesting SCs in that vid. Has anyone tried them?

Edit: Tried AF and it doesn’t work. There are 2 problems: 1. The wall is taller where the arrows start and you can’t get on top of it. 2. The wall is flat so you can’t get angled very wall and can’t do a big jump.

Edit2: Monster tires jump higher, it actually looks doable! // Couldn’t get it. Something to look into when savestates become possible.

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Thomasmk7 Karter Offline missed 3523 mts Austria Gender:	Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips Reply #1869 - 06/03/17 at 12:37:48 I tried it a few weeks ago. I think it's possible with this wall glitch/boost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcIEhM28V4 The checkpoint is in the middle of the cloud on the bottom screen.
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Reply #1874 - 06/04/17 at 20:58:26

Thomasmk7 wrote on 06/03/17 at 12:37:48:

I tried it a few weeks ago. I think it's possible with this wall glitch/boost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcIEhM28V4
The checkpoint is in the middle of the cloud on the bottom screen.

that honestly could have worked if you had 10 coins Shocked

otherwise, doesn't look possible based on what i'm reading

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