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Re: Course Strategy and Discussion (+ General Tips
Reply #1625 - 01/31/15 at 18:22:33
 
Gamer wrote on 01/31/15 at 09:37:31:
Frederiek wrote on 01/31/15 at 00:35:29:
Gamer wrote on 01/30/15 at 14:55:19:
Any help on big jump?


You already asked about it here:
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1322777925/1150#1150
and Zepple answered your question

and you also asked about rMG big jump here:
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1321991018/1550
and Evan answered you, while there was already an explanation of how to do the big jump by Lee a bit higher on that same page

So why are you asking the same question over and over again?



Valdraya, forget his name, ff, evan, zepple all give me the same exact answer. This does not help. Being acive mk7 players on this site telling me to press R twice is the best you can do?

How many coins do I need?
Do I have to hit he middle of the boost pad?
Do i tilt down?

None of your advice or any body's has helped one 2 senence post doesnt help a player. Maybe a specific video or talk on skype?  If we want to make his game active at all dont bullshit me just help me. And 'fredriek' or whatever with all due respect you seemed like you need help if you have over 1:38




The problem is, people who can do it explain it all the time and end up sounding like a broken record. The truth is by now everyone knows how to do it, I guess people just aren't giving the time to it or are getting disheartened by not getting it in the first few tries.

Zepple sounds like he presses R slightly later, I press it the same time as Evan, so I guess there is some leeway. Keypoints are just - hold down on analog pad throughout, when front wheels are around the front of boost pad, tap R twice (or just spam it, might give more opportunities to trigger two tricks like that? idk).

Oh and it's possible with as few as 2 coins - http://youtu.be/pNt61vR5kfg but you'll fall short way more often, so it's not something you should be trying to do until you can do it with more coins.
I mean technically the best run would probably have 3/3 big jumps and use the gliderless gorge cut each lap but ain't nobody got time for that Smiley
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Reply #1626 - 02/01/15 at 02:15:14
 
Sure you won't get a big jump for the first time in a few tries, it requires some time to be able to do it.


"I mean technically the best run would probably have 3/3 big jumps and use the gliderless gorge cut each lap but ain't nobody got time for that"

Sure, that would be an insane time, certainly 1:32 Cheesy
Who knows, maybe i'll be motivated for it one day?
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Reply #1627 - 02/01/15 at 13:49:19
 
Kryzz wrote on 01/31/15 at 18:22:33:
Gamer wrote on 01/31/15 at 09:37:31:
Frederiek wrote on 01/31/15 at 00:35:29:
Gamer wrote on 01/30/15 at 14:55:19:
Any help on big jump?


You already asked about it here:
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1322777925/1150#1150
and Zepple answered your question

and you also asked about rMG big jump here:
http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1321991018/1550
and Evan answered you, while there was already an explanation of how to do the big jump by Lee a bit higher on that same page

So why are you asking the same question over and over again?



Valdraya, forget his name, ff, evan, zepple all give me the same exact answer. This does not help. Being acive mk7 players on this site telling me to press R twice is the best you can do?

How many coins do I need?
Do I have to hit he middle of the boost pad?
Do i tilt down?

None of your advice or any body's has helped one 2 senence post doesnt help a player. Maybe a specific video or talk on skype?  If we want to make his game active at all dont bullshit me just help me. And 'fredriek' or whatever with all due respect you seemed like you need help if you have over 1:38




The problem is, people who can do it explain it all the time and end up sounding like a broken record. The truth is by now everyone knows how to do it, I guess people just aren't giving the time to it or are getting disheartened by not getting it in the first few tries.

Zepple sounds like he presses R slightly later, I press it the same time as Evan, so I guess there is some leeway. Keypoints are just - hold down on analog pad throughout, when front wheels are around the front of boost pad, tap R twice (or just spam it, might give more opportunities to trigger two tricks like that? idk).

Oh and it's possible with as few as 2 coins - http://youtu.be/pNt61vR5kfg but you'll fall short way more often, so it's not something you should be trying to do until you can do it with more coins.
I mean technically the best run would probably have 3/3 big jumps and use the gliderless gorge cut each lap but ain't nobody got time for that Smiley

Kryzz! It was you who helped me alot, im trying it and seem to keep on just jumping vertically, I'm sure I can fix that with more practice tho.
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Reply #1628 - 02/24/15 at 18:05:27
 
NBC gap jump walkthrough?
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Reply #1629 - 02/25/15 at 00:08:25
 
Supy wrote on 02/24/15 at 18:05:27:
NBC gap jump walkthrough?  


This?: http://youtu.be/7--GYnmtTlQ (live by Okami)
And this?: http://youtu.be/JQnYxxwE5Hc (live with hands by Wouter)
And this?: http://youtu.be/4VE-lrxgVFI (live by Final Fight)
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Reply #1630 - 02/25/15 at 03:58:58
 
Frederiek wrote on 02/25/15 at 00:08:25:
Supy wrote on 02/24/15 at 18:05:27:
NBC gap jump walkthrough?  


This?: http://youtu.be/7--GYnmtTlQ (live by Okami)
And this?: http://youtu.be/JQnYxxwE5Hc (live with hands by Wouter)
And this?: http://youtu.be/4VE-lrxgVFI (live by Final Fight)


Thanks Frederiek.  I managed to get across twice, but fell off on the other side both times  Smiley
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Reply #1631 - 03/12/15 at 10:09:20
 
SSMT on rRR after trick
https://youtu.be/B5ImHf46c4s

Keep in mind this does not show a perfect attempt
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Reply #1632 - 03/13/15 at 10:48:21
 
I don't know...maybe, but this track is so precise that the alignment after the SSMT might be a problem.
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Reply #1633 - 03/26/15 at 02:02:19
 
Could this ever be used?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBKvP7oksIM
(rBC1 shortcut)

EDIT: No, I tried it. The laps don't count.
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Reply #1634 - 03/26/15 at 08:38:20
 
Frederiek wrote on 03/26/15 at 02:02:19:
Could this ever be used?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBKvP7oksIM
(rBC1 shortcut)

EDIT: No, I tried it. The laps don't count.


I don't think it's faster anyway...
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Reply #1635 - 03/26/15 at 10:56:47
 
It was way faster. I could maybe sub 1 minute after half an hour trying.
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Reply #1636 - 04/05/15 at 05:25:29
 
DreamMK:
I need an help on WS !
Today at 05:14:19   Can someone help me on WS please ? I have 01:58.451 but I don't understand this track.. Please help me  Undecided


3 2 1...

Beginning
Hop a few times, then drift to the left. Release your red miniturbo right as you touch the water (this is faster than doing so earlier/later). Trick on the ramp and hold up on your slidepad. Hold r and when you land go right.

Ramps
Try tricking as late as you can and hold up on slidepad after tricking (waterboost). It's possible to get 2 coins on each ramp, but it isn't necessary to get a good time. If you fail your waterboost try pressing up then down and up again (this is still pretty fast, but always aim for a waterboost, as they are easy on l2 and 3 anyways)

Tunnel to ship
Land your last waterboost far to the right. If done well you can hug the wall, but make sure not to hit the bones (you hold right when you pass bone 1, then hold neutral until you're almost at the middle. Then go in right very sharp And when you pass the last bone, release your mt and hold right. This way you stay close to the wall and keep a nice line. On your right you see a pipe. Before getting close, hop (you'll float).
After landing drift left and when you reach the next pipe, hop out of your MT. You'll now be floating again, so don't do anything except aiming for the down left part of the big pipe (fastfall down towards it). Let it push you up. Then fastfall into the sand. When you hit the sand. Wait a bit and you'll be sent up. Now shroom. You'll land in the middle of the mud so hold r and drift left when landing. Do not hug the fence untill the very end

Ship to end
Drive on the boostpads. Then hop to start your drift right as you hit the edge of the water exit (again, this is faster). Now hold right untill the middle of the turn. Release mt and do a quick neutral to left on slidepad. Get a hightrick so you get a waterboost.
Tip for crab movement: swing up down up during waterboost. So you can see where they are at while still having room to anticipate.
Go left on the glider and do not trick. Aim for the coin on the mast. When you hit it hold down so you go higher. Now collect the first and most left coin on the platform (land in it, but gliderbounce and hold upright so you fastfall of the platform and get a sharp angle. Now prepare your line for the ramp. Release your red mt before it, hold down, trick. For laps 1 and 2 jump over the wall, lap 3 you can try landing onto it but maybe you shouldn't risk it.


Lap 2/3 differences:
Glider:
Now go right on the glider. When exiting hold down for like a second so you land just after the water


An old vid of mine: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hHznDpw8xik


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Reply #1637 - 04/08/15 at 10:20:03
 
Thank you very much ! Cheesy
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Reply #1638 - 04/12/15 at 05:54:28
 
I wasn't familiar with the term water boost, but it's just when I push the slidepad up when diving, no? Or is there more that I need to do?
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Reply #1639 - 04/12/15 at 08:08:39
 
Frederiek wrote on 04/12/15 at 05:54:28:
I wasn't familiar with the term water boost, but it's just when I push the slidepad up when diving, no? Or is there more that I need to do?


I'm pretty certain you're doing it right. If you hear a pretty loud water sound and you feel like you're getting a boost then you should be good.

If you want to test it: try driving of the ramp just holding a. If what you get during runs goes faster and the water makes a louder sound then you're doing it right.
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Reply #1640 - 04/12/15 at 10:08:17
 
Frederiek wrote on 03/26/15 at 02:02:19:
Could this ever be used?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBKvP7oksIM
(rBC1 shortcut)

EDIT: No, I tried it. The laps don't count.


Did like 52" with that Cheesy (yes I was bored)
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Reply #1641 - 04/12/15 at 11:31:53
 
^lol  Smiley   Grin
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Reply #1642 - 04/13/15 at 07:13:41
 
Frederiek wrote on 04/12/15 at 11:31:53:
^lol  Smiley   Grin

Thanks  Tongue
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Reply #1643 - 04/13/15 at 09:23:15
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iDg46BkoH8

Need help please, I haven't understood when he put his 1st shroom Undecided
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Reply #1644 - 04/15/15 at 01:55:45
 
Hugo wrote on 04/13/15 at 09:23:15:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iDg46BkoH8

Need help please, I haven't understood when he put his 1st shroom Undecided


First shroom is at the glider section.
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Reply #1645 - 04/15/15 at 03:09:14
 
Supy wrote on 04/15/15 at 01:55:45:
Hugo wrote on 04/13/15 at 09:23:15:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iDg46BkoH8

Need help please, I haven't understood when he put his 1st shroom Undecided


First shroom is at the glider section.


Yeah, finally I meant the 3rd, but thanks though now I know  Smiley
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Reply #1646 - 04/16/15 at 05:15:19
 
Wouter wrote on 04/12/15 at 08:08:39:
Frederiek wrote on 04/12/15 at 05:54:28:
I wasn't familiar with the term water boost, but it's just when I push the slidepad up when diving, no? Or is there more that I need to do?


I'm pretty certain you're doing it right. If you hear a pretty loud water sound and you feel like you're getting a boost then you should be good.

If you want to test it: try driving of the ramp just holding a. If what you get during runs goes faster and the water makes a louder sound then you're doing it right.


Just wondering, what is needed to get the water boost? Angle when entering water? Time spent fast-falling?

I already had found about it quite some time ago in CCL and got it by holding down between the ramp and the water.
However I remember TTing in WS and I could get the water boost at first and second jumps most of the time by doing a high trick, but I rarely got it when I did a low trick.
Also, at the water section before the glider I got the water boost in a weird way: I didn't jump enough to get directly into the water, but, right before I enter it, I hop and hold up, then I get the boost.
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Reply #1647 - 04/29/15 at 11:57:41
 
Someone should try this on MW non-glitch:
After third shroom, drive towards geyser, then do a high trick on it. After the trick, hold up all the time.  You should go outside the water. When hitting the water, you should get the water boost… which is still active after you exit the water.
I’ve been testing, it seems to save a noticeable about of time, at least "050. This only works when the geyser is on by the time you reach there obviously.
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Reply #1648 - 05/04/15 at 23:03:24
 
Glider bounce and glider boost on rKTB explained by FinalFight:

Glider bounce:
bounce at the beginning of the downhill portion of the cave, hold down on your control pad right as you bounce and then hold left to start your drift upon landing

Glider boost:
for rock glider boost don't trick on the glider pad. Start going down  over the tip of the rock as soon as you hear your glider pop out of the kart
this is the only way I can figure out when to go for the glider boost, I think Marv's way is different
but it works for me and it works pretty well
when you go over the rock btw, start fast falling asap because it gives you a strong boost
in my old prs i wasn't doing it because iwas scared of losing glider, but you have nothing to be afraid of
rock boost is much harder than the bounce because there's a strict timing for when you have to go down
sometimes you will feel like you did it right and it didn't work D:
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Reply #1649 - 05/25/15 at 03:54:42
 
Didn't know where to post this : https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkHkezf7Q

Looks weird.
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