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11/20/11 at 21:28:11
 
So today I went down to the LA auto show and go to hang out there the entire day in which I spent 2/3 of my time playing mario kart 7!! There were 20 or so stations designated for the game and the IRL karts looked amazing!! I played every track and beat every cup on 150cc first try except for the special cup. I unlocked every character with the exception of metal mario and I found it weird that I was unlocking all of them in the 150cc class...

The Controls- The circle pad works really nicely and I liked everything about them. The only thing that was hard to adjust to were the tricks which are now executed with R instead of the d-pad. Up on the d-pad makes you go into first person POV lol. X and L can both be used to throw items and A and Y can both be used to accelerate. There are no stand-still mini turbos so acceleration is actually important unlike in Mario Kart Wii.

Snaking isn't very effective and is rather difficult. I noticed there are no drift or mini-turbo stats because I think all of the karts have the same drift.... It makes all of them bearable to use because of this but some vehicles are definitely better than others.

The frame, character, wheels, and glider all impact the vehicle stats but I think the wheels matter the most surprisingly and the glider stats barely change. I remember the large wheels helped the off-road and speed stats LOADS. I didn't have that many parts available on the 3DS I played on during my session though.

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- Blue shell is still ridiculous but at least it doesn't throw you up 20 feet when it strikes you. It does travel on the ground the entire time then shoots up right before hitting people
- The Fire flower isn't as over powered as people think. You barely slow down when hit by it and if you spam it too much then the fire balls you first fired seem to just vanish...  I got one in 2nd place at the highest position
- The tanooki leaf is a very common item to get in first place. It has really short range and is time based but is really good if you are able to strike someone with it. I wasn't able to dodge a blue shell with it but you can block greens and reds.
- The shock lasts longer on its initial zapping, I don't remember ever getting shocked in the air while gliding which is depressing since I wanted to see what was supposed to happen. Hopefully my video footage shows it since my brain can't remember it. >_<
- The Lucky 7 is RARE. I got it 3 times total LOL! One of the times, I was in 4th place and I just annihilated everyone then used a star in first!! But another time.... some dude threw a shell at me which hit the bomb circling around me causing me to blow up!!
- Aside from the DK Pass box, I did get a shroom and a red shell in first both once which was really surprising

Time Trials:
I briefly checked it out and it's pretty much the same stuff. Coins really won't affect TT's whatsoever since they BARELY give you any boost and are used mainly to unlock vehicle parts (I unlocked the flower umbrella by getting like 1500 coins or something during my session). I finished a tt race and clicked replay to see what perspective it would give me. It gives you either that side view like MKDS did or a first person view like being in the kart. I couldn't find a way to get the standard view that everyone likes to show on the replay.

I also checked out the MK7 channel which is all based on friends and communites. I did not see any signs of Nintendo charts like mkwii had which is good and bad I suppose.

Tracks:
Toads Circuit: I like it better than all the previous first tracks of other mk games so it's a good first track >=D
Daisy Hills: very long for a second track, I only played it once so I don't remember it too well.
Cheep Cheep Lagoon: Eww, Not really a fan of it since its practically all under water and constant tricks off these little bumps and sometimes you float a bunch all weirdly. The clam things also are really annoying. Then the shortcut at the end can be blocked by items very easily forcing you to take the slower route or hit them to get rid of them.
Shy Guy Bazaar: Best track of the cup, pretty fun to race on and lots of different routes to take. I didn't find any shortcuts besides off-road cuts surprisingly

Wuhu Loop: I found it to be really fun and it says "Section 1/3" on the bottom screen instead of laps. The track is really creative and nothing like the Maka Wuhu one in the star cup. There are some really large glider sections as well.
Mario Circuit: Probably best MC yet, looks nice in 3d with all the flowers petals dropping down. On the glider ramp after the castle, you can cut off that entire turn if you do it correctly and you can use the pipe to get more air if you aren't gonna make it.
Music Park: the scenery around it looks beautiful and some of the bumps (representing music keys) cause you to have to take turns wide. If I remember correctly, the piranha's do attack you even though the flower cup preview didn't show it
Rock rock mountain: you guys have seen plently of this track LOL, well, on the second to last jump before the uphill section you can skip the entire last turn if you have a shroom but you have to navigate through some trees XD Also, the beginning gliding section is really easy to skip the first turn on. theres also lots of wooden ramps added throughout it.

Piranha plant slide: just as amazing as it looks in the previews. also the piranhas are DEADLY omg.... and you can use the glider to skip the last turns if you have a shroom. There are also fake goomba's at the end that are really just made of like wood or something hehe
Wario's Shipyard: This one is in my top 3 favorites, it just looks beautiful and is loads of fun to race on. I am like practically speechless on this one so just watch the video! xD
Neo Bowser City: BEST MUSIC EVERRR, the track is really straight forward with no enemies and only mud puddles to slow you down. It will probably be a really good frontrunning track. Also, I'm pretty sure you can cut off this one gap off the track because I came close to doing so. It would cut off around 3 seconds xD
Maka Wuhu: divided into 3 sections like wuhu loop, I liked it much more than I originally thought I would. It has some cool shortcuts but lacks enemies for it being last star cup track. The boulder section is the only challenging part.

DK Jungle: seriously nintendo? very uncreative track name.... anyways, you've already seen plenty of this track. Aside from the demo, a few areas to trick and the statues blow wind at you in the glider section which is actually pretty cool
Rosalina's ice world: the beginning is really fun since you can do all these drift slides everywhere, then you get to the water section where you can drive above it lap1. On lap 2 and 3, one of the ice blocks falls and you are forced to drive underwater. A lot of tracks have things like these to alter the courses for future laps but I'll probably forget some
Bowser Castle: BEST track in the game from my first impressions. It is super creative, chaotic, challenging, has great shortcuts, underwater and gliding sections.. it's amazing. There's this one part where you go through this spinning barrel like structure that reminded me a bit of the spinning horizontal bar in the ds one.
Rainbow Road: It's 3 sections and just 1 lap... um just wait for the video, I don't even know where to start! HAHA
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Luigi Raceway: unless there is an effective way to snake it'll be a pretty bland boring track like mkwii LC. Good for the noobs!
Bowser Castle 1: On lap 2, a blue glider ramp shoots up and you can use it as well as a ramp in the lava to cup off the last turn of the track. If you try to cut off too much and go too far off track then your glider will just vanish hehe
Mushroom Gorge: They took at the beginning two mushrooms of the track LOL they scared of the glitch?? Also you can do the gap jump easily with the glider and a shroom. I made it first try. However, I couldn't make it quite with just the normal jump and shroom like the wii version. Also, on the part where it forks into two paths with the left path being the non-mushroom route, there are like double the amount of boost panels to make it faster.
Luigi's Mansion: If you get to close to the pictures on the wall, they will hit you and cause you to lose coins/spinout. Also they added lots of extra ramps and such after the mansion section and there is a whole int he right side of the fence prior to the mud section.

Koopa troopa beach: the shortcut through the cave is really easy with a shroom but I don't know if it's possible w/o one. The water tide also changes causing that ramp in the water to variate in height but no matter what the shortcut is still possible all 3 laps. The sc isn't as broken either with it being possible to cut through the water at that section. Definitely one of the best retros.
Mario Circuit 2: exactly what it looks like, a few extra ramps added and you can cut off that last turn thanks to the glider =]
Coconut Mall: You can trick off the top of the stairs and the rails. Also, the last car is GONE completely from the level meaning there are only 2 cars at that final section. I tried to do the glitch about 5 times... and one time I got my camera to like spaz but didn't quite get in that secret room. I really hope it's not possible but it'd be hilarious if nintendo failed again.
Waluigi Pinball: You have slight movement inside the cannon and can bump other racers but it doesn't really do anything. There was an extra ramp added before the pinball bumper section if i remember correctly. If you hit the bumpers, it slows you down quite a bit.

Kalimari Desert: THE TRAIN IS SO TROLL OMG, see video at the bottom... they added lots of extra ramps as well but I'm not to fond of the track. I would have much preferred Royal raceway.
Daisy cruiser: one of the best retros, you can drive right through the pool and you can trick off the top of the stairs right before the lap ends which was weird. The cargo area is completely undewater with fish, eels, and clams in there and the "cannon" is NOT a cannon anymore. It's just boost panels.
DK Pass: They took out the snowmen after the first tunnel and I think they took out some trees as well.. (lol?), some ramps were added and it doesn't feel as bumpy as before which is nice. The "star" box is there as well but all I got were triple shrooms and shrooms from it which were still good considering I was in first.
Maple treeway: the bushes give coins and mushrooms, didn't get any stars from them. The track is much more enjoyable without that glitchy blue ramp and the textures seem smoother. The wigglers are less annoying as well since they're much smaller. I enjoyed the track much more on this game than the wii.

Koopa Cape: on the right side, there is now a rail rather than open space which I thought was really odd. The first ramp is just a trick ramp, not a glider. You can still snipe goomba's for shrooms and they are HUGE so it's really easy. The water section near the shell doesn't have that huge dip anymore. The pipe is still there but is completely submerged in water. The electric zappers are GONE now which I found very surprising. There are now fish in the tunnel instead lol.
Dino Dino Jungle: Amazing!! My favorite retro track. The shortcut is now a glider ramp and there is mud prior to it so you're gonna want to use a shroom. Now, the glider ramp before the dinosaur can be used to skip the ENTIRE last turn. I did it first try with a shroom and was surprised to see no invisible wall.
Airship Fortress: the bullet bills spin and have funny faces, it seems like there are more of them as well. Inside the ship, it is much more detailed and awesome looking.
SNES Rainbow Road: There are added ramps and small wavy sections similar to wii's rainbow road. The electric thwomps are deadly... if you just touch one you get owned o_O

So yeah, here are the leaf and star cup videos below. Special and Lightning cup will come soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weROpKrEGj0
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Reply #2 - 11/20/11 at 22:26:08
 
I love you and I hate you at the same time, lol. I didn't expect you to skim the entire game, and I terribly wish I could have come (oh well, only 2 more weeks)

So my feeling about absence of online charts seems to be right after all. May the PP thrive !
Sucks for the replay thing though. At least first person view should be better than the MKDS view.

Really curious about the two RR's, especially the SNES one now that you mentioned wavy parts, I mean WTF Grin

Anyway, thank you very much Smiley
Will you upload the 4 first cups as well ?
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Mick wrote on 11/20/11 at 22:26:08:
I love you and I hate you at the same time, lol. I didn't expect you to skim the entire game, and I terribly wish I could have come (oh well, only 2 more weeks)

So my feeling about absence of online charts seems to be right after all. May the PP thrive !
Sucks for the replay thing though. At least first person view should be better than the MKDS view.

Really curious about the two RR's, especially the SNES one now that you mentioned wavy parts, I mean WTF Grin

Anyway, thank you very much Smiley
Will you upload the 4 first cups as well ?


I don't have the first four cups recorded besides races 3 and 4 of the mushroom cup. Camera was really low on battery after all that and my dad was sick of holding the video camera. xD

And yes, no signs of TT boards unless they are gonna add them in later rofl xd
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fuck, MTs got so nerfed…

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The Lucky 7 is RARE

Good, not looking forward to when the inevitable online hacking begins though :/


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I couldn't find a way to get the standard view that everyone likes to show on the replay.

Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Kalimari Desert: THE TRAIN IS SO TROLL OMG

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I'm glad they added glider ramps so all trains are avoidable in tts though Smiley

Overall, the tracks look great, and it's nice to know this game will be based on offroad and acceleration stats mostly (at least in multiplayer)

Looking forward to the remaining track videos tomorrow, and thanks for giving us all of this info.
Lastly, I really hope Mick is right, it'd be great to make mk7 the largest pp yet!
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Troy wrote on 11/20/11 at 21:28:11:
- The Lucky 7 is RARE. I got it 3 times total LOL! One of the times, I was in 4th place and I just annihilated everyone then used a star in first!! But another time.... some dude threw a shell at me which hit the bomb circling around me causing me to blow up!!

btw that is lol

also, I’m guessing in TTs you get 3 shrooms no matter the parts you choose?

edit: actually how does that 7 thing work? how do you choose which item to use?
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ALAKTORN wrote on 11/21/11 at 04:55:51:
Troy wrote on 11/20/11 at 21:28:11:
- The Lucky 7 is RARE. I got it 3 times total LOL! One of the times, I was in 4th place and I just annihilated everyone then used a star in first!! But another time.... some dude threw a shell at me which hit the bomb circling around me causing me to blow up!!

btw that is lol

also, I’m guessing in TTs you get 3 shrooms no matter the parts you choose?

edit: actually how does that 7 thing work? how do you choose which item to use?

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G-danzee wrote on 11/21/11 at 07:58:13:
The one in front of you

that sounds incredibly annoying and hard to control…
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Thanks troy! Smiley
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Now I'm super excited for Special Cup, aside from DK Jungle. xd
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Reply #11 - 11/21/11 at 15:05:33
 
Thanks for the vids and write up Troy!

Some questions:

Do TTs record the flap times?

Did you TT any of the tracks that are only 1 lap? If so, do those tracks record the "flap" for each section? (so 1 track might have 3 flaps... or 3 fsections  Tongue)

Does Up switching to 1st person eliminate fast falling? We've seen you can fast fall while gliding, but it seemed you accidentally switched to 1st person on some normal jumps.

So the only way to get really good is to be in manual?  Grin that guy and the nintendo rep girl were pretty funny!
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Husky wrote on 11/21/11 at 15:05:33:
Does Up switching to 1st person eliminate fast falling? We've seen you can fast fall while gliding, but it seemed you accidentally switched to 1st person on some normal jumps.

Huh ? You fastfall with the stick, not the d-pad Smiley

Good questions about flaps though. Imagine having to do the 2 first sections to do a fast section 3 Grin
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Hmm, that's a good point, I'd never thought about that, I suppose it'd be quite fun to have 3 different flaps for each course Smiley

Although, imagine the last section of Maka Wuhu with three shrooms, it'd be pretty boring just going in basically a straight line to the finish.
Question is, do we want to have 4 times as many settable records for each 1-lap course?
I.e., just the single overall time, or also + each of the 3 flaps. (imo, having only the shortest of the 3 sections as a single flap is silly)
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Mick wrote on 11/21/11 at 15:16:50:
Husky wrote on 11/21/11 at 15:05:33:
Does Up switching to 1st person eliminate fast falling? We've seen you can fast fall while gliding, but it seemed you accidentally switched to 1st person on some normal jumps.

Huh ? You fastfall with the stick, not the d-pad Smiley

Good questions about flaps though. Imagine having to do the 2 first sections to do a fast section 3 Grin

d'oh! Embarrassed lol I forgot that there's a stick AND a dpad, I don't have a 3ds yet. lol working on fast section3 would take so much time!


Nosey wrote on 11/21/11 at 15:30:03:
Hmm, that's a good point, I'd never thought about that, I suppose it'd be quite fun to have 3 different flaps for each course Smiley

Although, imagine the last section of Maka Wuhu with three shrooms, it'd be pretty boring just going in basically a straight line to the finish.
Question is, do we want to have 4 times as many settable records for each 1-lap course?
I.e., just the single overall time, or also + each of the 3 flaps. (imo, having only the shortest of the 3 sections as a single flap is silly)


Ultimately I think the PP should match the game. So, as long as the game saves the best time for all 3 sections, I'd want all 3 sections on the PP (as well as the total time obviously). And I hope it's done that way since each section is completely different.

If the game saves the flap time on the normal 3lap courses, but doesn't doesn't save the section times for the 1lap courses, then I would not want any sections on the PP.

And I agree that it would be silly to only have 1 fastest section and ignore the other 2... unless that's what the game does... hopefully not!
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ALAKTORN wrote on 11/21/11 at 04:55:51:
also, I’m guessing in TTs you get 3 shrooms no matter the parts you choose?

edit: actually how does that 7 thing work? how do you choose which item to use?


Yeah, TT's give you 3 shrooms no matter what.

the Lucky 7 just uses whatever item is in front of you. Here's a clip of how the 7 can backfire on you.

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Husky wrote on 11/21/11 at 15:05:33:
Thanks for the vids and write up Troy!

Some questions:

Do TTs record the flap times?

Did you TT any of the tracks that are only 1 lap? If so, do those tracks record the "flap" for each section? (so 1 track might have 3 flaps... or 3 fsections  Tongue)

Does Up switching to 1st person eliminate fast falling? We've seen you can fast fall while gliding, but it seemed you accidentally switched to 1st person on some normal jumps.

So the only way to get really good is to be in manual?  Grin that guy and the nintendo rep girl were pretty funny!


I honestly spent 5 mins on the TT's and just wanted to see what perspectives I'd get if I finished a tt. I don't know how the first person pov works since the only time I actually used it was the brief few seconds I selected it by accident. And yeah, a lot of people were watching me play XD

For those who haven't seen, here are the special and lightning cups:
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Thanks for the videos, you did a great deed allowing everyone to preview this shit fully before purchasing.
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holy shit BC and RR are crazy xD

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Reply #20 - 11/22/11 at 03:34:08
 
Are tricks automatic when you jump or do you just do them when you actually in the air? ... Or is jumping moved to a different button since you say you trick with R?

Don't understand how you can say the leaf has short range when everything i've seen tells me otherwise - it seems to be able to hit people in front of you and generally all around you... It's still good to hear though, and I hope you're right.

Didn't read everything so i'm sorry if some of this has already been adressed Tongue
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Reply #21 - 11/22/11 at 03:45:20
 
you trick by hopping, which has always been the R button
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Reply #22 - 11/23/11 at 14:46:03
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 11/22/11 at 02:29:55:
holy shit BC and RR are crazy xD

getting the tail in 1st is retarded…

Actually it's not! Just wait for other people to pass you and use it. Smiley
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Reply #23 - 11/23/11 at 14:50:01
 
I rewatched the videos today and I just noticed something interesting. It seemed that during the few seconds you played in first person you were able to drive with the slide pad. Can you confirm that Troy ? I think I would actually drive better in 1st person view that way.
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Reply #24 - 11/23/11 at 14:58:55
 
I'm sorry but what's the slide pad? Undecided
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