Thiradell wrote on 09/19/11 at 15:20:48:


Says the guy who voted me off on D3 when i'd claimed Doc without a counter claim  

So lets see if i am a bad player.. (or at least compared to you)

D1 - I vote silver, then remove it, drop serious hints to which character i am, I tell Silver (town) to stand up for himself, I tell Fank (maf) he's scummy. I unvote silver (town) and vote for kev (town) because he's not posting. Thats a fair reason to vote imo.
N1 - I save J-cop who was town
D2 - I vote Zweibel as he's completely attacking me and I need his vote to be off me (he's a strong player imo), then i say Quote:
. I unvote and go for Ivootjes who I still think played the worst game of Town i've ever seen. I'm happy to quote all that if anyone wants me to.
N2 - I try to save Zweibel who would've helped Town (not least because he had the maf sussed)
D3 - I roleclaim when the heat starts getting put on me.

Thiradell ended up voting and being part of the lynch which killed 3 Town out of 3 days. Waaaay to go!  

Worth noting also that Zweibel might have had maf down by the end of the night he went but D1 he picked 3 town Then he almost utterly is convinced I am mafia after I defend Silver.

As far as I was concerned, Thiradell and you, Tom, were the 2 easiest targets I had to use to clear myself. Sorry.  
I have to admit that this was a really bad mafia game, for the same reason Mihawk wrote. Noone even realised Mihawk, Fank and I ever voted against each other... Only Padz voted for me once. That's all...
I knew the game was going to be bad since D1 ended...
So, if you ever see such a horrible mafia game, you can be sure maf will take the easy way and never vote for each other, but a good mafia game is when mafia vote for each other too look town. This is the way maf should play, but when it's not worth it, we just don't use it.

padz wrote on 09/20/11 at 04:07:04:

Seconded

Fank009 wrote on 09/20/11 at 04:17:19:

Where did I do that?

Fant0m wrote on 09/20/11 at 07:33:31:


About 6 post's back you mongoloid.

From the way everyone's posting, it's like the game is still going on, there's so much analysation going on

Anyone, thanks Brett for hosting a good and fair mafia game that was well-run, and I enjoyed playing it as my first mafia

Fant0m wrote on 09/20/11 at 01:56:10:


Because I am going to listen to you pip-squeak.

Mihawk wrote on 09/19/11 at 21:11:02:


Truth be told again!

The Gaff wrote on 09/20/11 at 01:38:20:


gaff, almost all of that was luck, you didn't know anything 100%.  just saying.

The Gaff wrote on 09/20/11 at 13:58:17:


Even though i hate the "gaff is a shit player" bandwagon, and luck is something i dont believe in, chance did play a significant role in everything since it was really just random that you picked those and they turned up the way they did.

Fank009 wrote on 09/20/11 at 14:23:36:


lol

no, its the fact all the good players are sayig that TOWN played shit, they are all saying that they shouldn't have voted me off. If they had been active they wouldn't have.

Fank009 wrote on 09/20/11 at 16:38:35:

Dr. Fank said something useful! This is actually an important point. Good players not only can figure out who's who, but they can convince other people of it. If you nail the entire mafia team but can't convince anyone to listen to you, that's not very useful, and you can't just blame this on town for not listening; they would be stupid to believe you if you can't explain yourself (because you could easily be mafia making random shit up). The same goes for when you're mafia. If you can convince the town to follow you, you can win the game pretty quickly. Sure, you can sometimes win as mafia by just sitting back and letting town mess up, and you can sometimes win as town without doing much and then point out at the end of the game that "HEY LOOK I VOTED FOR SOMEONE ON DAY 2 AND HE LATER TURNED OUT MAFIA I'M GREAT!" but in a game with decent players, it's the people who can take over the game by convincing people to listen to them that will lead their team to victory.

That's why I'm a pretty good player (compared to padz) even though I'm not that great at picking out who's mafia. Once I do get a strong suspicion, I know how to get people to listen to me, so I can actually have an impact on the lynches. Someone like Sportsguy is much, much better than me at nailing mafia, but he usually doesn't put much effort into convincing people of why he's suspicious of them, so town often ignores him even when he's right and it doesn't end up helping (unless he's Vigilante, in which case mafia is fucked).

If people would actually try to improve at this, maybe our mafia games wouldn't suck so much.

padz wrote on 08/09/11 at 11:12:34:

Not idiotic!
Come on!
I've made one fucking mistake! That doesn't make me an idiot... --"