Votals

[1] fank009 (Brett)
[1] Brett (fank009)

Day will end in ~36 hours or when a majority is reached.

Robertvz wrote on 08/20/11 at 02:05:22:


1) Ive played OoT...
2)apart from looks... what role does darunia play?
3) Town will be screwed if we dont hear from the other 3. within the next 12 hrs.

RUSE wrote on 08/20/11 at 03:00:49:


I have my reasons for brett thank you. (scummy move coming up...) not prudent to reveal them at this time.

Fank009 wrote on 08/20/11 at 03:11:23:


Fank philosiphy: What the town dont know, maf dont know. If maf dont know it, less chance of winning.

i know its selfish... but thats how i play as such.

All right, I've thought of it, and I think we should remove our votes Fank in case of some sort of mafia blitz occurring. Only problem is I made this post on my phone so IDK if I can make the bold tags work, just count this as an unvote.

And for the record, I am no less suspicious of you nor am I advocating no lynch yet.

Unvote

Wow no posting from tom and co is getting annoying. If one/two of them is maf, they wont need to do anything if we rip each other apart. Either we do a no lynch or we vote and put pressure on one of them. But that would be just random since we have nothing on any of them unless they signed on lurked and went off.

Oh yeah that reminds me,i like onion's. Though really this has been the worse D1 i have seen. But then again it is a very small game, but that means half the game has not posting. Unacceptable.

k... Ive had a huge think bout this... I think now is the time...

(warning! wall of text coming)

Ive had my eyes on brett being maf since 1st post.

He had a similar start in my game.

Now, i believe there are certain values townies should hold. Brett crossed the line by having a go at jamie for his noobish play, AND pointing out something.
Robertvz wrote on 08/19/11 at 17:21:43:

now... WHO THE HELL would try to push a power role claim on day 1? Who? I know this is a small game but NO NEED TO DO IT ON DAY 1!
Value brett broke- Never try to force people to claim power roles... ESPECIALLY on day 1!

yeah its a weak base but weak bases mean the tower is easier to fall.

I started asking Qs which basically interperted... Why are you pushing him?

Answers-
Robertvz wrote on 08/19/11 at 17:46:48:

-No... didnt look obvious he wasnt vanilla to me, just looked like a stupid move.
-I agree it was stupid, could have done some research on the charachter.
No... YOU didnt have to point it out. And whats worse... you forgot bout this...
Zwiebel wrote on 08/09/11 at 01:37:21:

I dont know what you mean by special... but my definition of simple: Maf blocker, Doctor, sheriff, Vig, Town Blocker, Serial killers?. Alternatives allowed of course.

Now... Is bodyguard a simple role? No. Its an advancement on the doc, making it a "special" role.

More quotes (cause i like them )
Robertvz wrote on 08/19/11 at 18:08:32:

-again restating the point that everyone knew he was lying... well, i dont know if spectators count... (MVT, i have a feeling your watching (if im wrong im wrong ))  but there was only me, and you there. thats like a husband saying to the wife, "we are the world".
-There is a reason to point it out... IF your maf. jamie the bumbling fool made himself an easy lynch.  It would be easy for brett to try squeeze a role out of him. and when jamie wouldnt comply, there would be an easy gate to a lynch.
-Stall tactic. saving it till later. Well... if i understand, you were going to wait till traffic was a bit heavy before you push anything on it...
- Whats troubling you brett? Fank got your tounge? you finally saw past the Q's? ill put it simply, Yes. The Q's were a trap to make you slip up. and boy did i like seeing that happen.

Now... Im going to bolden the point in which i had enough at.

Robertvz wrote on 08/19/11 at 18:08:32:

the latter was just the icing on the cake.

I voted for him, (keeping my plan close to me, didnt want to see him squirm yet)
He voted for me next post.

Brett... Your (supposedly) an A grade player... Why play the "he voted for me so he must be scum" card? your only adding fuel to the fire....
He does agree to the, "peace treaty"


Now to talk bout jamie...
I have enough evidence to believe that in his few posts he is Darunia- Town Vanilla, Due to his Naievety when claiming. He seems to be neutral between me and brett... scummish play but due to how i've played? who can blame him?.

Only one thing will clear brett for me. If he claims the masked Salesman

I was hoping for the absent 3 to show up. But more than likely i wont meet them. Im posting this now... Hoping that the absent 3 get my message... More than likely i WONT be up in time for EOD. I probably wont have time to hear opinions from people. So... why wait, then forget about it?

Why the change in plan of attack?
So... if the 3 dont show up and get modkilled, AND zwiebel allows us to vote, Im positive that myself and jamie are town, so voting for brett (in this case,) is win-win. Even if they show up, this is building blocks to probably the only safe lynch (imo) that we'll get today.


And without further ado
Vote: Brett

Oh yeah, I knew I forgot something.

Vote: No Lynch.

Fank009 wrote on 08/20/11 at 18:49:49:


because no lynch is the best option on this day phase. It's probably a mislynch and lose scenario, so we might as well narrow down the options. Plus, don't forget that half the people haven't even posted yet. You can vote me if you want, I think you're scummy but I don't want to lynch you just yet. You're actually making a serious effort even if you're kinda giving me a mafia vibe. Tom, Third, and Web haven't posted once yet.

And obviously that claim wasn't real. Come on, you think I didn't notice how absurd it sounded? If you're town, no lynch is probably the best bet. Mafia get a kill, then it's must lynch tomorrow. I think that's the best bet.

Trust me there's a reason I'm playing this game the way I am. A very good one which I will reveal after this game is up.

I just said I was joking with that claim, didn't think you'd really think my claim was serious. I might as well claim Link, MAFIA Godfather.  

Seriously if you're town, you're playing poorly. 3 players still have zero posts and you're actually an advocating a lynch when this could easily be 2 vs 4! I'm not saying this to get you to unvote me because of whether I'm town/mafia or whatever, I'm saying this because no lynch is the best bet, then tomorrow maybe a cop could come out with a scan or something and this could lead to defeat for the mafs. That's why no lynch is good.

You could very well be mafia. I think the best bet is to no lynch, hopefully the cop (assuming there is one, but I haven't played in a game where there isn't a cop and some sort of doc/bodyguard) can get a report and we can have a cop, and a possible mafia scan, etc. This game is very winnable if we sacrifice one town member at night for the cop to be able to claim with a scan.

That's just my thought process anyway. I don't know how to explain it any better. Plus, mafia will get rid of one person which gives us a statistical greater shot at lynching a mafia the next day. Usually I don't advocate a no lynch but this is an unusual game in how it is set up.