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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #475 - 07/25/11 at 04:10:22
 
fine, i'm town roleblocker. (i've been waiting on fank to see if i can reveal my role but as he's not answered my pm).

I get three chances to block. First night I blocked web which was a mistake obviously.

Last night i didn't block anyone.

So flo, why dont you want to vote for Zweibel?
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Reply #476 - 07/25/11 at 04:11:36
 
Why did you block Web first day? Random?
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #477 - 07/25/11 at 04:13:36
 
Town roleblocker? Does it exist?
Because I wanted to let him a chance, and not act too quickly. We have a lot of time left in the game. And I want first to know all the roles to see who I should believe and who I should not.
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #478 - 07/25/11 at 04:14:46
 
The Gaff wrote on 07/25/11 at 04:10:22:
fine, i'm town roleblocker. (i've been waiting on fank to see if i can reveal my role but as he's not answered my pm).

I get three chances to block. First night I blocked web which was a mistake obviously.

Last night i didn't block anyone.

So flo, why dont you want to vote for Zweibel?

Why didn't you block zwiebel if you were so sure if was maf?

edit: just to say I meant last night.
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #479 - 07/25/11 at 04:19:07
 
because i wanted to save it for later in the game. i've only got three. Whats the point of wasting it on him when i was 100% sure we were going to kill him today.

Flo, you are analysing my to and fro with Brett at the end of the last day. And somehow you've come to the conclusion that was all bs? It was legit, why? Because Brett looked like he was heading for an escape. An escape led fully by Zweibel who was helping him get out of the RVZ claim.

Currently i'm at this point;

Flo and Clark = town
Zweibel = maf
Zyklon = town
el nino = maf
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #480 - 07/25/11 at 04:23:36
 
Ok, so I'll try to change my question into this:
What is a town roleblocker supposed to do?
As a mafia roleblocker could block a town rolebut town roleblocker... it could block one mafia to kill but the other one could still kill right?

And why didn't you just use it on zwiebel to prevent RVZ from being lynched? He could have brought some good informations for us today...

I still don't get these 2 points.
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Reply #481 - 07/25/11 at 04:28:56
 
Fant0m wrote on 07/25/11 at 04:23:36:
Ok, so I'll try to change my question into this:
What is a town roleblocker supposed to do?
As a mafia roleblocker could block a town rolebut town roleblocker... it could block one mafia to kill but the other one could still kill right?

And why didn't you just use it on zwiebel to prevent RVZ from being lynched? He could have brought some good informations for us today...

I still don't get these 2 points.


My assumption is that i just block a role that mafia has. Therefore the mafia could still kill rvz. He was dead from the moment our doctor died. My role is pretty shit tbh as i dont know what roles mafia could have. Either way, i didn't use it last night. I am happy to use it tonight, if we agree ona  strategy that makes sense then i'll use it.

Flo, the more you back Zweibel the more sus you become.
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #482 - 07/25/11 at 04:31:30
 
I'm not backing him, I'm just asking you questions.
I just unvoted him to let the time to know more things today.
I never said I wouldn't vote for him.
Also, why do you think Christophe is mafia instead of Zyklon?
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #483 - 07/25/11 at 04:34:25
 
Well, the only reason I could see for fank to put a roleblocker in the game is that that roleblocker could block the Mafia roleblocker, so that that roleblocker couldn't block our doc/cop. Lol that may sound weird but the only plausible possibility. If you really are Town roleblocker, what I doubt.

Also Flo, why did you post in the beginning of the Day that you think Tom is 95% Town? I just read it again and was surprised.

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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #484 - 07/25/11 at 04:44:45
 
I just realised something... This Day is missing Votals...

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[2] Zwiebel (F@nt0m@s, The gaff, Zarkov, Zyklon)

4 for majority, Day ends in ~40hrs
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #485 - 07/25/11 at 04:45:12
 
The answer is on Tom's post. Because of the argue between him and Brett last day.
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #486 - 07/25/11 at 04:46:55
 
Oh well, that wouldn't make him obv Town in my eyes but ok.

Just for your interest, Brett was the first person in this thread to ever mention "Strawberry Town":

Robertvz wrote on 07/20/11 at 10:23:00:
Zarkov wrote on 07/20/11 at 10:18:44:
What's with this flavours of ice cream thing? Does everyone have a different flavour or something? Surely vanilla must be town?

Anyway haven't been posting much as I'm at work.


So you think there's like a Town Vanilla, Town Chocolate, Town Strawberry, etc. for every single powerless townie out there? Silver claimed Vanilla, Flo claimed Vanilla isn't the word to describe powerless town, and Silver was unable to claim Chocolate. Therefore either Flo is mafia and somehow smart enough to frame Silver, or Silver is mafia and failed with his Vanilla claim.


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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 1- And...
Reply #487 - 07/25/11 at 04:50:38
 
Zarkov wrote on 07/20/11 at 13:00:42:
Might aswell put the hammer on Silver. The guy is 100% mafia.


Remember the first time Clark called someone 100% Mafia?

He was Town. Now he's doing the same thing. I think it's getting more and more obvious that Clark is Maf, and Clark being Maf does only make sense with Tom being the 3rd one...because otherwise zark would have hammered Tom.



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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #488 - 07/25/11 at 04:51:22
 
zweibel, what are you trying to imply by that?

Can i point out no on has roleclaimed against me. Right now i'm the only one with a PR and so i'm gonna get hungout to dry like a cockoff.

Well done Zweibel.

We need the others to post more, ffs.

Flo, in general, if you are town, just look at the FACTS. I'm happy to spell them out to you again if you want.
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Reply #489 - 07/25/11 at 04:52:33
 
Zwiebel wrote on 07/25/11 at 04:50:38:
Zarkov wrote on 07/20/11 at 13:00:42:
Might aswell put the hammer on Silver. The guy is 100% mafia.


Remember the first time Clark called someone 100% Mafia?

He was Town. Now he's doing the same thing. I think it's getting more and more obvious that Clark is Maf, and Clark being Maf does only make sense with Tom being the 3rd one...because otherwise zark would have hammered Tom.





why would he?

I dont think anyone is hammering me because so far i've managed to NOT vote off the town player on D1 and then to vote for the maf on D2!
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #490 - 07/25/11 at 04:58:55
 
Lol Tom, funny that you mention. Town players make mistakes in their votes, while Mafia players KNOW who's Maf and Town, so they can easily adjust to look Town, so your point proves nothing.

Also Tom, with hammering I meant that you had 3 votes and Brett had 3 votes yesterday. If Zarkov is Mafia, and you are Town, he would have hammered you so he could win with Brett. So the only explanation is that either you're both Town, you're both Mafia or Clark is Town and you Mafia. So if Zarkov is Mafia you MUST also be Mafia. That's what I wanted to point out.
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 2- Who r u?
Reply #491 - 07/25/11 at 05:03:37
 
Robertvz wrote on 07/22/11 at 04:00:20:
RVZ wrote on 07/22/11 at 02:04:45:
What do you think about Gaff, Brett? He's not really a big poster too imo. All he said basicly is nothing worthly for town.

Webinator is nightkilled. I'll have a closer look into his posts and his opinions.


Tom doesn't seem bad. He's posting his usual ways. I lean towards town on him, he hasn't given me really any proof that he is mafia. He's been trying to help a lot. I don't get how you say he has said a whole lot of nothing. I can look back as maybe my memories of him are a bit askew. I know he's been asking a lot of questions and trying to get into a lot of buddy to buddy conversations along the way but I'm not so sure if he's doing this because he's mafia and "knows" that who he is allying with is town or because he's town and going on gut feeling.

Also Flo how could Tom and Clark BOTH BE MAFIA? If Clark was mafia you realize how bad that would make you look? I guess one could be mafia but if both of them are mafia then they deserve to win.

Clark's reasoning for roleclaiming is understandable, although I still don't like it. With 4 claimed powerless townies (2 of which are dead), the chance of a maf kill hitting a power at night goes up a lot. You're not helping by just claiming Vanilla. It's just easier for mafia to nail whatever few powers we might have. Look what happened with Web.

Oh yeah, and RVZ, Zwiebel's post against you makes you look terrible. I can't believe I didn't notice it earlier. If you were sure they both weren't good lynches why didn't you focus your attentions elsewhere and try to lynch someone you thought was more likely to be mafia? If you brought up good points someone else coulda been lynched instead of useless Silver.

Still waiting on you to come back online and finish making your post about Web's D1 play.


Oh look, Brett's defending Tom's playstyle. Also:


The Gaff wrote on 07/22/11 at 05:32:41:
Clark, i'll try to be more to the point then.

At the moment these are my thoughts;
brett - town lean, contributing alot, helping and pretty much leading this game for town.
Zyklon - maf lean, hasn't contributed anything for town yet.
Zwiebel - undecided
Zarkov - hasn't dont that much apart from vote for silver but in fairness he wasn't alone in that
F@nt0m@s - still not convinced. I think, if he is mafia, then his mafia friends would've been trying to get him out of that day 1 sticky situation. I'm going to re-read D1 and see who was pushing the silver vote over flo again.
rvz - mafia lean, normally he is really analytical but in this game he seems to be keeping a low profile. If he's not mafia then he probably has a pr. Sorry if that baits you out.
el nino - mafia lean, probably just trying to keep quiet so he can escape being rumbled.

i've just put some heat out there so i'm expecting to get some grief back. Alternatively i'm not expecting anyone to really justify what i've written. Would like more thoughts from the quiet players though.


Funny that Tom thought Brett was the most Townish player, but jumped immediately on the RVZ claim without hearing on to Brett's explanation. As A Townie, I would expect that from you if you thought so hard he was Town.

I'm fairly sure Tom/Zark is remaining Maf. Still looking back for some good quotes.

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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 2- Who r u?
Reply #492 - 07/25/11 at 05:11:49
 
Robertvz wrote on 07/22/11 at 10:11:07:
The ice creams are confusing, but I think Fank did just put them in there. There's no way both Flo and Clark would be mafia because it would be so obvious that Clark tried to save Flo yesterday. Someone being a Chocolate Townie would confuse the fuck out of people and he'd be lynched in no time for claiming something so stupid with a bunch of Vanillas. But the chocolate and strawberry roles do make sense as a pair. I just don't know why Fank would put that in the game but it's definitely something he'd do.

I think Clark and Flo are town. Could they be mafia? Yes, but it's not likely. I'm pretty sure both Christophe and RVZ are mafia (maybe Zyklon too, but then this game would be a cakewalk), and RVZ making a promise then leaving is suspicious as fuck.  I'm gonna unvote and place my vote on RVZ because Zwiebel has great points against him.

Unvote

Vote: RVZ.


Robertvz wrote on 07/23/11 at 14:35:45:
Just got back from work and read everything. RVZ is a legit cop if no one counterclaims, despite how poorly he did on D2. However, I'm seriously not mafia, it's just my role comes up as guilty on scans, so Robert is a legit cop. I posted the way I did D1 hoping the real cop wouldn't scan me as this would set up a scenario like this one at the end game.

I know it sounds dodgy as fuck, but this is coming from the same host that decided to put a Chocolate and Strawberry role into the game. If you trust me for once, then mafia consists of probably Zyklon, Nino, and a different good poster, although I'm unsure which.


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Time to reread, it's the only shot we have at winning the game.



Defending Strawberry. There are also some other quotes but they're not that significant.
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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #493 - 07/25/11 at 05:16:12
 
Ok, so here's my conclusion:

It's either Tom/Zarkov or Tom/Nino for me(since zarkov/Nino is not possible because of what I said earlier). So Tom is the lynch for today, we'll have to figure who's 3rd Maf but considering the strawberry thing and Brett defending it until the end I think it's zarkov.

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If you want to know more from me or have any further questions, I'll try to answer. Also I'd like to hear Zyklon's role, though I know he's Town because of not hammering me. I guess he is the real Town Roleblocker, but who knows. Also I'd like to hear Nino's role. Until then, we shouldn't lynch anyone.
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Reply #494 - 07/25/11 at 05:20:53
 
Apologies for not posting much, have been at work.

Jesus Christ fellow townies, Zwiebel is doing a fantastic job of pulling the wool over all your eyes. I dont know where he has got this 'Gaff and Zarkov are maf' thing from, but its totally false.

I hammered Brett as I believed RVZs roleclaim. If I believed RVZ was maf, and faking the roleclaim, I wouldve gone with Gaff as he was more likely to be mafia than Brett until RVZ claimed.

Im not going to reveal my role, but I know for a fact Gaff and El Nino are town. So that leaves Flo1, Zwiebel, and Zyklon with two of them as maf. Flo1 is town imo, his whole chocolate thing seemed something that Flo would do. Ie get completely hung up on something to the point it confuses him. I claimed strawberry as I assumed it would clear Flo as town as I had a different flavour but was still basic town.

So that leaves Zwiebel and Zyklon.

Now I should very well make a case against Zyklon for his "hammer" on Zwiebel. He voted, then immediatley unvoted hoping the fact that he did vote would clear him. He was always gonna insta-unvote regardless of whether Zwieb "ninja'd" him. But im not gonna make the case as they are both maf, so getting rid of Zwieb is just as good.

Zwieb is also bringing up everything he can find to back up his theory of me and Gaff being maf when its quite clear every vote weve done has been pro town (OK barring Silver, but ive explained why I done that. We call all make mistakes) What he isnt saying is how he almost instantly changed from "Zarkov is obv town imo" to "Zarkov is obv maf". Where the tits did that happen? Figured out a nice plan to get me lynched eh? Saw a niche you could exploit and make this BS case against me?

Zwieb is doing a great job at doing exactly what I said would be hard for us to do. Fuck it up. But his maf bud Zyklon is doing just as great job ruining it for Zwieb by agreeing with him on everything, and removing votes on him just by asking. He is basically just being ordered by Zwieb to do these things as theyre talking outside of the thread.

Anyway, im not removing my vote on Zwieb. He knows ive got him called on this one. The only way I will remove it is if we go on Zyklon instead.



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Re: Fank009s Mafia- Day 3- Doc, Cop... whos next?
Reply #495 - 07/25/11 at 05:23:08
 
HAHA, what a load of rubbish!!

i've just revealed my role :'( and now you are going to kill me off? Jesus, you must be mafia.

Is it any revelation that you are voting for me when I am voting for you? I dont think so. I thought Brett was town.. but when RVZ did roleclaim and no one counterclaimed (ahem - like me - ahem) then he had to be scanner and so i voted for brett. Bretts get out what pretty poor (scan comes up wrong).

Can i highlight the words of our dead Town Scanner?

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Vote The Gaff

I don't think we have enough evidence to go for a El Nino lynch, and I think your claim is sincere, so RVZ is probably not lying as well. Flo is prob Town (still not sure about Clark, but we can discuss that D3), Zyklon has answered and brought up some points against Tom since longer and Tom hasn't really done other than asking for other opinions. So I think he's the best chance of flipping Maf at the current situation. Let's hope we're right on this one.


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You're a legend Zwiebel.

I'm gonna go with it, and I hope to god you're right.

Vote: Tom.

omfg, can it get more obv then this Zwiebel and Brett are scum buddies?


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Reply #496 - 07/25/11 at 05:25:45
 
That was just what I was expecting from Clark. Clark, why don't you want to tell us your role? I thought it was TOWN STRAWBERRY?

Now, you haven't answered my question why you knew that Brett was lying about his role coming up guilty on scans. And now you even say that your "TOWN STRAWBERRY" role without any powers DOES gives you some special powers that make you know that Gaff and El Nino are Town, where our scanner died already? That's hillarious.

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Reply #497 - 07/25/11 at 05:28:02
 
I havent claimed to be scanner.
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Reply #498 - 07/25/11 at 05:29:48
 
RVZ's DYING WORDS

"brett and zweibel are scum"

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Reply #499 - 07/25/11 at 05:30:30
 
Clark, I'll tell you something. If you're so sure that I'm Mafia with Zyklon, what is the sense of not wanting to tell me your role? If that was true, you win anyway regardless of you telling your role or not.
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