Shock wrote on 07/17/11 at 19:33:59:


*Cough* Have you seen the title of this topic lately?  
About Terrence Fenner...; clearly not everything he says can be immediately discarded as irrelevant, don't be absurd.
If you're trying to get the point accross that he can not be held comprehensive/accountable for his own words, then why argue he would be for his actions and let him back on the site?

I have told Terrence in person and I am sure i posted somewhere on this thread or another that Terrence won't be going on the SMK site, at least till God knows when. The reason is not just because of the back and forth Tennis game of his past issues but also because of the headache that has been going on here lately. There is no need to have a copy of that going on other places, but rather to sort out one problem at a time. Terrence said he understood this which is fine, and if anything he probably has his hands full with MKSC now anyway. So thats that for the SMK side of things. So Terrence if you are planning to do live stream for SMK at some point in future (this year, next year whenever), it will be just for your personal use.

On the other end of the spectrum, i do believe something should be done to try and fix the problem (even if it remotely sheds some light in the tunnel), I don't know what exactly but I believe Pierre kindly made a suggestion on something that is done on the MKW site. Again it isn't a full solution but I saw it turned a few heads around from the guys who seemed absolutely fed up with the Fenner case, as a temporary solution / workaround until something more solid / permanent is decided. Of course Tom and April will make their decisions on this site and it is up to them on what approach they want to take, they have their reasons for doing so and hopefully it will at some point in future shed the light at the end of the tunnel. I do agree Terrence has not helped himself with his actions, moreso his recent ones, but it is a sticky situation as he is proving that he can reach WR level so Pierre's idea may be the only one that could work in this situation. Either that or we completely ignore actual World Records that are being made live / could be made in future. The decision is yours here...

Hopefully then players might be inclined to return to resume their normal competition, or if not then that is up to you, or Tom and April may suggest some way around it for you. For now please let the mods here continue to do what they need.

On a lighter note:

I read something about the MKDD site being ignorant of Terrence's actions. I think Terrence noted his removal from MKDS but wasnt sure if he was referring to the Cyberscore nonsense.

Those are my personal performances, they belong to a name which is mine, so I don't want to see them on this site with or without my name, end of story. Thanks.

MrL1193 wrote on 07/17/11 at 11:32:50:


This ^^

It would only be a short-term solution to get around the current issue. Things will get shitty again in the future

KVD wrote on 07/18/11 at 03:13:24:

Well we have now elements to think about it: http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1310985158

The Gaff wrote on 07/18/11 at 03:23:54:


He can not be proven legit, as the opposite has already been proven. His actual MKSC timesset can be proven legit, but that's a different matter.

Alicia Kart wrote on 07/18/11 at 05:55:00:

The official removal joke thread is here Kartie...

http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1310985158

I took the other point : "and the site".

If you wanna use another topic for doubtful times, no problem. ^^

Sami de la SMK wrote on 07/18/11 at 00:52:16:

Actually, I'm pretty sure the MKDS page deleted his times off the site, I checked the combined ranks and he only shows up for three games when before I'm almost positive he showed up for four.

The Gaff wrote on 07/18/11 at 07:19:34:


Yea. I don't even own an ironing board. Maybe that's why I'm not SMK NTSC women's champ anymore. I should make an investment.

Anyway, to Karel/Mario86/the others that strongly opposed the decision: no hard feelings I think we all got a little heated about this (myself included), and its obvious we all greatly care about this community. I'm glad we're finally getting this settled. And like I told those who requested times removals, if/whenever you want back in, just let me know and I'll take care of it.

ALAKTORN wrote on 07/18/11 at 19:30:10:


Lol Flo isn't only not funny he's also a cheater.

Can you put my name up on the site under Mario's times but knock them down like .1 seconds? I don't plan on ever joining otherwise, and it wouldn't be fair to the others.

Alicia Kart wrote on 07/18/11 at 05:55:00:


I just looked through the top 100s for each track, and I found 12 people with at least 1 fake time.  I remember this issue was brought up in the past, but it seems nothing has been done about it.