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Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas?
Reply #1675 - 03/29/11 at 14:40:01

Web wrote on 03/29/11 at 14:36:24:

TellTale wrote on 03/29/11 at 14:17:22:

Can you clarify this? I think you got a little wordy here and sort of contradicted yourself? Are you in favor or against an RDBU lynch? Would you consider actually voting RDBU? I don't understand what you mean. The two bold things seem to contradict themselves.

I said RDBU needs to die this cycle, and ANYONE BUT (and including this entire list) RDBU, Matt V, and Darius should not be lynched today. Wasn't contradicting myself, you just read it wrong.

All I can say to you Darius is that SS and fank were very difficult to read (as is RDBU) because their play was atrocious. Because of this, I flipped back and forth in my mind over whether they were town or mafia, as I'm sure a lot of the town did. I can go back and see what my position was at points in the game to try and emulate that, but the truth is it changed so much on both of them that it's hard to pinpoint a specific feeling for them, especially after their roles and affiliations are now revealed.

@Ivo, I'd prefer RDBU over Matt V because at least Matt V is beginning to contribute now. RDBU is a liability regardless and needs to be killed somehow.

I'll be around to see what everyone's opinions are but it appears as if a bunch of people are moving away from a Darius lynch, and if the pressure is off that I'm not going to stay on it, as it would make my vote useless.

Also forgot about jailer role, which makes sense, although if Tim is legit jailer and protected Scott, then the only way that he could have failed protecting him is if he was roleblocked.

I made exactly the same argument to Darius in defense of you. He didn't seem to buy it unfortunately. I think you are town though.

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Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas?
Reply #1676 - 03/29/11 at 14:43:40

I think I'd agree on lynching RDBU and vig killing Matt V then. We get rid of the fucking lurkers(and hopefully at least one Maf) and I don't think any good player that's Town would act the way Matt did. He didn't back up anything he said, he probably didn't even read the whole thread. Plus we could then finally focus on finding the "active" Mafia guys. I think we should mainly investigate Darius D5, as well as Tim if he's still alive.

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Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas?
Reply #1677 - 03/29/11 at 14:46:11

ugh, I hate doing this but I'll
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Vote: RDBU

because he's easily a better lynch than anyone in my mind but Darius, and if Darius is town he'd be a bad loss. I feel like he's a strong mafia though, and I can't say much else in my defense over the SS/fank issue than I already have.

Don't know how much time we have left, but that's 5 votes. Maybe we can use the rest of the time to discuss cases on other players for tomorrow? Seems like a waste for someone to place the kill vote and knock off these last few hours.

EDIT - nvm, that's the maj lynch. Nobody post.

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MVT Ex Member	Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Reply #1679 - 03/29/11 at 14:47:34 Is that it... fuckin dumb we didn't need to end the day that early...I really wanted to hear from tim.
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Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas?
Reply #1680 - 03/29/11 at 14:52:02

Unbelieveble how everybody changes so easily to RDBU while Darius was pretty close to death. I'm still positive that the 4 people that voted Darius atleast 1 of them is scum. I can understand RDBU his vote cuz he's stupid. The other 3 (Web, MVT, Zwiebel) are imo not this dumb enough to vote an active guy out.

But I think I've found a huge slip..
Zwiebel wrote on 03/29/11 at 14:23:14:

RVZ wrote on 03/29/11 at 14:05:45:

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I can see where people are coming from to say that Darius wouldn't tell us that much, maybe I'm too focused on my defense, however I prompt this question to the town. What more can we learn from RDBU then we can learn from Darius? (or is it the good player/bad player conflict) Everyone wrote him off as an easy maf last game, and he flipped town.

Is it really so difficult for you to understand the difference between Darius and RDBU lynch??

RDBU TOWN, we lose a nobody
Darius TOWN, we lose a good player

Sure if we lynch Darius and he turns up MAF we did great, but chances are very slim.

That's what I'm thinking about all the time just now. At least when we leave Darius alive and he is Maf, he could somehow slip or say something which makes us more suspicious of him, whereas when we leave RDBU alive we probably won't get another opinion on him since he'll probably say nothing interesting. If Darius is Town, there's also the possibility of him somehow clearing himself. It feels so much like a waste to lynch an inactive/shitty player who can't be read though.

And even the same can be applied on Matt V, has someone played a game with him before? Is it possible that he'll start talking something worthy tomorrow, or is he normally a good player? It would make me more suspicious of him then if he has been a good player in the past.

Zwiebel how can you think this "all the time" while your vote was on Darius "all the time"

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Re: MB Mafia Night 4
Reply #1683 - 03/29/11 at 17:27:13

RDBU has been lynched. He was TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla.

It is now Night 4. Send your night actions to me by PM in the next 23 hours. If you do not wish to use your night action tonight, please PM me with that decision. If you do not have any night powers, no PM is necessary.

Final Day 4 Votals
[6] RDBU - (Ivo), (MVT), RVZ, MVT, Ivo, Darius, Zwiebel, Web
[1] Darius - (padz), RDBU, (Zwiebel), (Web), (MVT)
[1] MattV - (MVT), Timothy, (Ivo)
[1] Zwiebel - MattV
[1] padz - TvL
[0] Web - (Darius)
[0] MVT - (RVZ), (padz)

The Living
1. Darius
2. Ivo
3. Matt V
4. MVT
5. padz
6. RVZ
7. Tim
8. TvL
9. Web
10. Zwiebel

The Dead
J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1)
Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1)
Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1)
SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2)
KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2)
Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2)
NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3)
Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3)
fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3)
Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3)
Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3)
RDBU - TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla (LD4)

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Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE
Reply #1684 - 03/30/11 at 16:30:47

Nobody died last night!

The Living
1. Darius
2. Ivo
3. Matt V
4. MVT
5. padz
6. RVZ
7. Tim
8. TvL
9. Web
10. Zwiebel

The Dead
J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1)
Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1)
Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1)
SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2)
KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2)
Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2)
NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3)
Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3)
fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3)
Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3)
Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3)
RDBU - TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla (LD4)

With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes.

Begin!

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Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE
Reply #1685 - 03/30/11 at 16:49:58

Sigh. Well I had a hunch that was what would happen, but my main suspicion is on Darius now, however much more RVZ than yesterday.

One question to RVZ, why did you push for a much easier lynch that you could get away with? When we had the chance to pressure better players, you said, "RDBU is an easy mislynch", and deadset focused on him the whole day with just a few other scumhints.

Darius #1 suspect. Also I seriously doubt any vanillas actually exist anymore, esp after Honko said this was a semi high power game.

I'm going to look back at some night actions from previous days, since we've done little with those the past days and focused on past suspicions.

Just a few observations to start the day off.

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Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE
Reply #1686 - 03/30/11 at 16:54:40

Oh and a reminder I almost forgot.

Don't fucking talk at night. If a majority is reached while I'm not around to lock the thread, shut the fuck up anyway.

I can tell the difference between an honest mistake a couple minutes after the last vote has been reached, and purposely getting in an extra word when you know the day should be over. Anyone trying to do the latter from now on will certainly be modkilled.

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Ivootjes Legend Offline 1 herz is enough for me punched 7280 kiddies Hoorn, the Netherlands Gender:	Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Reply #1687 - 03/30/11 at 16:58:07 Hmm, not a bad night, at least we didn't really waste a day lynching rdbu. It was not like he would help us anyway. But i think we could get into trouble if we mislynch today.
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Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas?
Reply #1689 - 03/30/11 at 17:07:04

RVZ wrote on 03/29/11 at 14:52:02:

Unbelieveble how everybody changes so easily to RDBU while Darius was pretty close to death. I'm still positive that the 4 people that voted Darius atleast 1 of them is scum. I can understand RDBU his vote cuz he's stupid. The other 3 (Web, MVT, Zwiebel) are imo not this dumb enough to vote an active guy out.

But I think I've found a huge slip..
Zwiebel wrote on 03/29/11 at 14:23:14:

RVZ wrote on 03/29/11 at 14:05:45:

Quote:

I can see where people are coming from to say that Darius wouldn't tell us that much, maybe I'm too focused on my defense, however I prompt this question to the town. What more can we learn from RDBU then we can learn from Darius? (or is it the good player/bad player conflict) Everyone wrote him off as an easy maf last game, and he flipped town.

Is it really so difficult for you to understand the difference between Darius and RDBU lynch??

RDBU TOWN, we lose a nobody
Darius TOWN, we lose a good player

Sure if we lynch Darius and he turns up MAF we did great, but chances are very slim.

That's what I'm thinking about all the time just now. At least when we leave Darius alive and he is Maf, he could somehow slip or say something which makes us more suspicious of him, whereas when we leave RDBU alive we probably won't get another opinion on him since he'll probably say nothing interesting. If Darius is Town, there's also the possibility of him somehow clearing himself. It feels so much like a waste to lynch an inactive/shitty player who can't be read though.

And even the same can be applied on Matt V, has someone played a game with him before? Is it possible that he'll start talking something worthy tomorrow, or is he normally a good player? It would make me more suspicious of him then if he has been a good player in the past.

Zwiebel how can you think this "all the time" while your vote was on Darius "all the time"

Also, about this "huge slip", I think it was just a minor grammatical error by Zwieb, or at least that's what I took it as. He was just thinking of the possibility that a RDBU lynch was safer than a Darius lynch.

Starting this day off with a
Vote: RVZ
for trying to look really hard at something I don't think is there, as well as a general narrow-mindedness at the end of yesterday towards a now townie. I do understand the reason for lynching, I don't understand why all you talked about in D4 was "lynch RDBU".

EDIT - I see now you talked a little about Tim, although disregarded it later to tell everyone to wagon on RDBU. The fact that no one died in the night (MattV/Darius) is also kind of disheartening)

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Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE
Reply #1690 - 03/30/11 at 17:30:53

this is why we dont let the suspect throw the lynch at the last minute before i get a chance to post

nobody should be glad that nothing happened. we're back at square one w/ one less town player. there was only confusion because nobody knows up from down anymore.

this is the last time i listen to mvt.

vote Darius

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Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE
Reply #1691 - 03/30/11 at 17:34:17

Right now I think RVZ and Darius are scum buds, as they supported each other throughout, and near the end of the day RVZ pretty much told Darius to switch off of me because no one was pushing the vote.

I'm off for today though, hopefully we get a lot of activity. Inactivity is inexcusable at this time, but people shouldn't accuse for it. I'll switch my vote to Darius if he talks the same as yesterday, but now I want to see what RVZ has to say.

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MVT Ex Member	Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Reply #1692 - 03/30/11 at 17:41:37 I think now would be a good time for roleblocker to claim. Who made the block and who was blocked? That'ss a guarenteed scum right there.
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Ivootjes Legend Offline 1 herz is enough for me punched 7280 kiddies Hoorn, the Netherlands Gender:	Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Reply #1693 - 03/30/11 at 17:50:35 Quote: nobody should be glad that nothing happened. we're back at square one w/ one less town player. Well, we lost rdbu, which isn't too bad. We had to get rid of him anyway. MVT: i don't think it's that easy, remember there died 3 people in night 3 right?
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padz King Offline 5818 days karting Gender:	Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Reply #1694 - 03/30/11 at 17:57:21 TellTale wrote on 03/30/11 at 17:41:37: I think now would be a good time for mass claim. fuck off
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Ivootjes Legend Offline 1 herz is enough for me 7280 days karting Hoorn, the Netherlands Gender:	Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Reply #1696 - 03/30/11 at 18:03:19 Quote: this is why we dont let the suspect throw the lynch at the last minute before i get a chance to post yeah right you're not responsible you would have saved town from this terrible mistake your opinion is always correct you are mafia.
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Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE
Reply #1698 - 03/30/11 at 18:07:38

Padz has bullied and bulldozed his way through this entire game never answering a single question anyone has dircted at him. I still think him and darius are connected. I don't understand how he is so "clear" on his reads. He's so direct and doesn't use any real reasoning. Just orders people to vote a certain way which is frustrating. Also pretty funny how he was racing in the beginning of the day to lynch darius asap. I called him out on it and he quickly recanted the vote. He knew it looked bad. Then he criticizes everyone else for ending the day. I agree it should never have ended that early but padz saying that is just comedy after his earlier action. Ivo I agree about it not being as simple as I made it to sound about roleblocker coming out. However if the roleblocker blocked someone new tonight that he never did before and there was no night kill than that strongly implies the person the roleblocker blocked was scum.

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padz King Offline 5818 days karting Gender:	Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Reply #1699 - 03/30/11 at 18:08:21 if im so obviously bussing darius why not lynch him and confirm it? if you think hes town, how come i know too much and am scum?
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