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Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over (Read 4807 times)
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Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over
Reply #350 - 02/06/11 at 20:48:29
 
Kmacc wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:46:45:
Well when you're in game, someone trying to look like an obvious jester, or jester look like an obvious mafia is very deceptive. Koopz could have tried to look like obvious jester to avoid dying because he was mafia. When you're playing, you don't know this stuff. I knew I screwed up, but it's not like I sucked, as there have been other games I've played in where I was arguably the best player. Just didn't get it done this time, that's all.

Anyway, good game everyone.


Koopz admitted he was a jester flat out.  Not sure how much more obvious it could have been? Questioning
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Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over
Reply #351 - 02/06/11 at 20:51:33
 
i guess i'm just glad i wasnt "obviously jester" to everyone, and still made people think....  ah well.

next time i'll just try not to make a fool of myself.  Tongue
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Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over
Reply #352 - 02/06/11 at 20:58:04
 
So if someone says flat-out that they're jester, then town will say "Oh, let's not lynch him because we'll lose. And since he's jester, we don't have to worry about his night actions either, so don't bother blocking him." And then it turns out he's lying and that he's mafia and wins. Just because someone obviously seems jester doesn't mean they are; I like to think people play with smarts and strategy when they play, and aren't just outing themselves. Maybe if I play again, I'll just imagine everyone being retarded and having far superior intellect to myself, while blindly believing everything they tell me. If that were case, we'd all win on day one because there would be no mafia members to kill, cause we're all one big happy town.
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Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over
Reply #353 - 02/06/11 at 21:02:08
 
I dunno man.  I saw padz as obv maf and koopz was obv jester.  Calibur was confusing as fuck and played like shit.  I dunno how you picked wrong twice so you also played like shit.  Sportsguy played a great game though.  Scott also used a lot of good reasoning and played a good game.
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Reply #354 - 02/06/11 at 21:06:10
 
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Reply #355 - 02/06/11 at 21:10:14
 
I thought Padz was more of an obvious trolling jester, so that's why I picked Koopz over him, although I thought he was jester as well. I though Calibur was mafia really, but I was supposed to block either Padz or Koopz, so I did. And if Calibur was confusing and he was a jester, wouldn't that actually mean he played well? He's supposed to be confusing and get himself lynched, so technically I wouldn't say he played poorly.
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Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over
Reply #356 - 02/06/11 at 21:18:57
 
Kmacc wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:46:45:
Koopz could have tried to look like obvious jester to avoid dying because he was mafia.


In this particular case I felt it was pretty clear Koopz was a Jester, but yeah in general that's how a mafia would have played, look at padz this game.

Pretty surprised both town people used their blocks night 1.  I guess it could help in claiming things later on but it seemed like a mass carnage night was best for town at that stage.  Every kill did go through though so it didn't matter.
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Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over
Reply #357 - 02/06/11 at 23:16:55
 
Padz played well, but it was super obvious that D4 or 5 or whatever that last day was that he was mafia. Only because Sportsguy voted for Padz and Calibur didn't go for the no lynch. Had Calibur been mafia, game would have been over with a no lynch, so I knew he had to be the jester. I thought Padz was jester until that point.

I don't get why Calibur decided to choose the mafia to win the game though. Had Calibur voted Padz, town would've won.

Also Kmacc, why did you block MVT on N1? He was like the most obvious townie I've ever seen.
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Reply #358 - 02/06/11 at 23:54:38
 
TellTale wrote on 02/06/11 at 21:02:08:
Calibur was confusing as fuck and played like shit.


That was the point you stupid cunt.

Kmacc wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:26:38:
Padz did really have me fooled though, I thought for sure he was jester. I guess I got too caught up in arguing with Calibur.

IsThatAGoodTime wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:27:56:
Actually almost took out Kmacc there because I still felt like Calibur seemed more of a town player at that point.


both kmacc and scott had me wrong. refer to bold in first quote.

TellTale wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:29:50:
Not people giving up like Koopz and clueless 1st time players like Calibur.


talk about comedy, let alone contradiction

Kmacc wrote on 02/06/11 at 21:10:14:
And if Calibur was confusing and he was a jester, wouldn't that actually mean he played well? He's supposed to be confusing and get himself lynched, so technically I wouldn't say he played poorly.


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Robertvz wrote on 02/06/11 at 23:16:55:
I don't get why Calibur decided to choose the mafia to win the game though. Had Calibur voted Padz, town would've won.


Town didn't deserve to win.
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Reply #359 - 02/07/11 at 03:32:52
 
Kinda sad game for the jesters, they had no chance whatsoever to win this game. I already expected that with so much power in the night.

Maybe that the set up would be interesting when the day can't end with no lynch?
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Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over
Reply #360 - 02/07/11 at 04:23:50
 
I didn't really find this to be very much about mafia, to be honest. When the setup makes the players so heavily inclined towards no-lynch, you can't play the game normally. That's why I don't think jesters are a good role, though.
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Reply #361 - 02/07/11 at 05:59:30
 
Calibur wrote on 02/06/11 at 23:54:38:
TellTale wrote on 02/06/11 at 21:02:08:
Calibur was confusing as fuck and played like shit.


That was the point you stupid cunt.

Kmacc wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:26:38:
Padz did really have me fooled though, I thought for sure he was jester. I guess I got too caught up in arguing with Calibur.

IsThatAGoodTime wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:27:56:
Actually almost took out Kmacc there because I still felt like Calibur seemed more of a town player at that point.


both kmacc and scott had me wrong. refer to bold in first quote.

TellTale wrote on 02/06/11 at 20:29:50:
Not people giving up like Koopz and clueless 1st time players like Calibur.


talk about comedy, let alone contradiction

Kmacc wrote on 02/06/11 at 21:10:14:
And if Calibur was confusing and he was a jester, wouldn't that actually mean he played well? He's supposed to be confusing and get himself lynched, so technically I wouldn't say he played poorly.


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Robertvz wrote on 02/06/11 at 23:16:55:
I don't get why Calibur decided to choose the mafia to win the game though. Had Calibur voted Padz, town would've won.


Town didn't deserve to win.


Whatever dude.  Not sure how that could possibly be a contradiction.  No point in arguing with a n00b who is trying to imitate padz posting style.
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Reply #362 - 02/07/11 at 10:10:53
 
TellTale wrote on 02/07/11 at 05:59:30:
Whatever dude.  Not sure how that could possibly be a contradiction.  No point in arguing with a n00b who is trying to imitate padz posting style.


You truly are clueless. No point in arguing with a brain-dead fool.
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Reply #363 - 02/07/11 at 10:16:58
 
I thought Calibur played well.  He was a better jester than Koopz.  I have no idea what I would have done if I were jester.
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Reply #364 - 02/07/11 at 17:42:11
 
Calibur wrote on 02/07/11 at 10:10:53:
TellTale wrote on 02/07/11 at 05:59:30:
Whatever dude.  Not sure how that could possibly be a contradiction.  No point in arguing with a n00b who is trying to imitate padz posting style.


You truly are clueless. No point in arguing with a brain-dead fool.


I'm clueless. Ok kid.  Whatever.  Come back when you have a mafia track record like me.  Then maybe you should be allowed to play. Undecided
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Reply #365 - 02/07/11 at 18:29:37
 
I was obv. Ok kid.  Whatever.  Come back when you have a mafia track record like me.  Then maybe you should be allowed to play. Undecided
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Reply #366 - 02/07/11 at 18:50:35
 
Well apparently there is a reason I'm killed first nearly every game...

Calibur wrote on 02/01/11 at 19:50:20:
IsThatAGoodTime wrote on 02/01/11 at 16:19:18:
Regarding the "three possibilities" you mentioned, Sportsguy, were you as surprised as me to see MVT dead?  I figured no town player would go after him, and the only reason I can see the mafia doing it is if they thought he was Jester or something.  Mafia likely would have wanted to go for a jester over any town role at that point? Not sure and this is awkward to think about.

Whoever killed Darius must have thought he was pulling a KoopZ and Jestering it up.


that didn't surprise me one bit. if MVT was killed overnight that solidified my stance on padz and/or sword. those two believe that MVT is best mafia player on this board, and from what i've observed over the past months watching these games, I agree. that being said, they would get rid of their biggest threat first.

anyway, this is what we have:

Koopz: Claimed Vig; Was roleblocked
Sportsguy: Claimed Vig: Shot Sword
Scott: Claimed Vig: Shot Darius
Kmacc: Claimed RB: if you roleblocked someone tell us who (unless you did say who and I skipped over it)

We all know my stance on koopz, so obviously I think he's lying with his vig claim. padz is the remaining the mafia so shall I block him?

Kmacc: if you roleblocked koopz, say so now. if you didn't, koopz is jester.

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Reply #367 - 02/08/11 at 03:50:10
 
The reason you were killed this game is because padz did actually have a strat (hoarded) that he intended on using with the town, but he knew that you would see through it and potentially foil it, so he had me kill you just to be sure. He never got to get that strat into motion because a) I died at night and b) Kmacc resorted to the highest level of play possible by getting everyone to roleclaim day 2. If padz wants to explain the strat then he can.

Me and padz played a PERFECT Night 1. Roleblocked both the roleblockers, allowing the vigs to make their kills. I actually knew that Tyler was indeed the vigilante on Day 1, however we needed to take the chance that the vigs would screw up so we left them unblocked. Turns out either Tyler got lucky for once or actually had me read very well. (From memory, Tyler has been very unreliable with his vig kills, hence why I left him alone. Jokes on me, I guess)

Looking at Tylers night actions it seems he had both mafia pinned from the start. Looks like he played a flawless Night game on his part too.

Koopz was obviously a Jester from Day 1. You could see how much he favoured lynch even though it was a bad option. Heck, he even resorted into suggesting you vote him off. What town or mafia player would ever do that? Come on. Grin

Kmacc seemed to dictate what went on Day 2 onwards and he made alot of careless errors which is why town lost. Wasn't expecting Darius to die Night 1 either, he seemed very town like, directly behind MVT.

The No Lynch thing was annoying as hell, too. I think in set-ups like this it should either be banned or only allowed like once every 3 days or something, since it made it practically impossible for the Jesters to win, and it didn't help the mafia's case either.

I honestly don't know what Scott was talking about in the game. No Lynch is TERRIBLE for both Jesters and Mafia. You kept saying that No Lynch was benefitial to mafia, and it really isn't. I found it amusing how he said he agreed with me when I was alive but when I was dead and flipped scum started saying everything I said was flawed. Very interesting!

Overall it was a fun game and a very unique one at that. Looking forward to the bigger, more basic game in a months time. Smiley
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