Calibur wrote on 01/31/11 at 21:08:22:


pretty sure the only post where i even mentioned lynching me was the one i referenced once already when i was in second place.  what other posts make you reach this conclusion?  (i'm going to try and defend myself if i can... its hard to defend against a gut feeling)

kmacc, the only reason i called you out is cuz your posts seem (for lack of a better word) so normal.  i had to go back thru the rest of the topic to see when and where you posted, cuz i couldnt recall them at all.  i'm now no more suspicious of you than i am of anybody else....

IsThatAGoodTime wrote on 01/31/11 at 21:26:01:


it is not in everyone's best interest to get rid of me cuz i'm town.  pretty sure i was role blocked last night anyway, otherwise you wouldnt be here talking right now.

KoopZ wrote on 01/31/11 at 21:32:12:


Hmm, second person to claim Town Vigilante so far.  First one was truthful.  I believed it from the start.  This one? Gonna be a tough case.

Or is that one of those "I'm not actually lying because I'm mafia and really was roleblocked, lol joke's on you!" posts?

@Koopz: Fair enough. My idea for day one was that the split between lynch and no lynch was kind of he deciding factor on which direction to take for day two, as opposed to normal games where you kill somebody and go from there. It seemed fitting for a game like this where one wrong move and it's over. That's why my posts probably seem very straightforward to the point I wanted, and not trying to cut any corners. I do still believe that no lynch was our best option for day one, even though the night kill doesn't look the greatest.

Now that day two is here, I'm all for a lynch as long as we can pinpoint somebody. I don't want to no lynch today, but it would be better than lynching with no lead I guess. But I feel we can hammer something out here.

Just wondering (I'm not saying we SHOULD do this, but I want some opinions on the possibility of it being helpful), would it be beneficial to have more role claims? I know it's only day two, but from a quantitative perspective, there's only six of us left. In other games with six people left, usually at least a one or two have their roles known for certain. I'm trying to assess if it would be harmful to do, because if it's not, it can help narrow down a lot of stuff.

There wouldn't be much budge for lying about your role, and it could put the mafia/jesters in an awkward position with few roles to claim.

Calibur wrote on 01/31/11 at 21:42:59:


poor choice of words on my part.  i was role blocked last night.

Kmacc wrote on 01/31/11 at 22:06:18:


Well, figured someone else would step up, but apparently no one else around here actually answers questions.  I'm still standing behind this earlier explanation, Kmacc.

IsThatAGoodTime wrote on 01/31/11 at 20:05:29:


At this point, piling votes on someone doesn't seem like a great idea at all.  They're not going to act any different whether they're a mafia or a jester.  When either one gets to 3 votes they'll try everything in their power to get out of it, with the mafia's play being genuine and the jester's play a ploy to convince everyone that he is the mafia remaining.  Getting 4 votes on one person will be hard! Since he can't vote for himself there are only 5 people to land those 4 votes.  The jesters will be hesitant to vote (for that same guy, they will probably start attacking someone else) because they know the guy could be a jester and voting would lose the game for them as well.

I'm fairly confident who one of my teammates is and somewhat confident on the other at this point.  The other three of you are in trouble!

Vote: No Lynch

Depends how stupid the 3 non-townies claims are.  We'll end up with 1RB/5Vig, 2RB/4Vig, 3RB/3Vig, or 4RB/2Vig claims.  If we force RBs to list who they blocked the previous night less people will claim them and real vigs will know if one messes up.  If we get 5 Vig claims and only 1 RB then we've got 1 cleared person and the real vigs have a 3/4 chance at hitting overnight.

It seems to make the situation trickier for the non-townies, overall.

I would only support this move if everyone agreed beforehand to claim.  No one can just be mute if we do this.

So far we have 1 person claimed as vig, Koopz.

padz more like needledick more like i'm afraid to support the role claim move cause i'm obvious mafia/jester

Who cares if the Town RB knows who the fake one is, the Vigs are the ones that need to know.

Kmacc wrote on 02/01/11 at 15:08:53:

honko did u not factor this into the setup???? the game has been blown wide open!!

Regarding the "three possibilities" you mentioned, Sportsguy, were you as surprised as me to see MVT dead?  I figured no town player would go after him, and the only reason I can see the mafia doing it is if they thought he was Jester or something.  Mafia likely would have wanted to go for a jester over any town role at that point? Not sure and this is awkward to think about.

Whoever killed Darius must have thought he was pulling a KoopZ and Jestering it up.

@Sportsguy: I thought about that same scenario, but of course we can't completely prove it because MVT can't confirm he didn't make a kill. We can only make the assumption that he didn't make a kill based on what he said on day one.

So with that logic, Koopz wouldn't be a vig, or he would be lying about having been blocked. I'm more inclined to agree with the first part, but maybe he has something to say about that.

Padz is mafia or jester. If he's town then he's pointless and shouldn't even play in these games, and is going to make us lose.

If you assume those two are mafia/jester, who would be the last one? Personally, I'm not too sure yet.