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Question: Do you believe in God?

Yes (specific religion)  
  50 (23%)
Yes (but no existing religion)  
  15 (6.9%)
Agnostic (Maybe)  
  30 (13.8%)
Atheist (Don't believe)  
  101 (46.5%)
Don't care.  
  21 (9.6%)




Total votes: 217
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Reply #175 - 02/06/11 at 01:42:20
 
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Reply #176 - 02/06/11 at 03:30:42
 
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What exactly do you think of those who believe in Allah or Buddha?


I think that most religions are just different interpretations of the same God.
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Reply #177 - 02/06/11 at 08:22:36
 
Goose wrote on 02/05/11 at 14:23:30:
Dan H wrote on 02/05/11 at 09:57:25:
The major problem with Goose's post is that science doesn't really explain the why, it explains the what and how.


WOW.  BRILLIANT WORDS!  You have really disproven the existence of God.  WELL DONE.


Dude, I believe in God. But I also know more than the average person about science, especially in the areas of genetics and evolution. Your entire post would get you laughed out of any serious scientific discussion.
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Reply #178 - 02/06/11 at 08:40:55
 
Sorry for the double post, but after I read Goose's reply I felt I had to say something.

AlexPenev wrote on 02/05/11 at 19:10:37:
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However, if it is proven that there is no God, it will destroy the beliefs of 70-80% of the world's population*, and that's something they won't get back. It would be devastating. No wonder why many people are resistant to renouncing their beliefs. *I don't know the exact percentage, I'm just kinda throwing this number out there. But this guess includes all religions, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, etc.

This is an interesting point and religion probably does have many benefits. But don't you agree that most religions are incompatible? Does that mean you already disbelieve 999 religions and believe just 1? It's impossible for me to pick out the most-right one out of 1000 and be able to explain why it is right and the other 999 wrong, so my best guess is that all 1000 of them are probably wrong.


This is an issue I have struggled with for many years. The explanation I have heard is that the religions are just different paths up the same mountain. I want to believe that it's true, but I really don't know if it is. The different denominations of Christianity are basically the same thing, they all trace their origins to God through believing Jesus is their savior. The differences between them is just in what they allow or not, which is actually just a bunch of politics (and it's really kinda frustrating). On the other hand, Judaism and Islam actually do trace back to the same God, but in a slightly different way. Judaism traces back to God through Abraham, and they see Jesus as a prophet, not the savior. Islam traces back through Ishmael (one of Abraham's sons), and they also see Jesus as a prophet, not the savior. Does this mean we all believe in the same God? Yes, in a way because we go back to the same point; but no, in a way because we go through different points to get back there. Thus the same mountain/different path approach comes into play.
Other religions like Hindu and Buddhism, I can't say I know much about, so I'm not even gonna try to explain their beliefs.

And to clarify my last post before I get ripped to shreds for having knowledge of evolution and still believing in God... I was a Biology major in college. I mostly took classes relating to medicine, but I did have two that touched on evolution, and one that was all about evolution. I know how the theory goes, I know how evolutionists think, but I still believe in God. Remember that it's not just creation vs. evolution, there are theories in the middle of the two extremes. In fact, my professor, after spending a week giving us evidence supporting evolution and basically shooting down creation, admitted that he believes the truth lies somewhere in the middle. And that's what I believe too.
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Re: God?
Reply #179 - 02/06/11 at 11:27:30
 
Goose wrote on 02/06/11 at 01:28:30:
Actually w/e, under your avatar it says "Peace is Hell."  You're obviously some kind of Satanic death metal troll so lost in a subculture that you're hopeless.


You're unable to defend yourself without stooping so low that you have to make me look bad so you don't have to give yourself a valid argument. You read what you want to read and ignore everything else and there is no convincing you that you present nothing valid. If you are confident that you are right, and I am wrong, step forward and argue with me. Earn your self-proclaimed "intellectuality".

Your picture is of Miley Cyrus so obviously you're a 13 year old who grew up with Disney Channel as a baby sitter. I've got no business convincing virgins that they're wrong anyway..  Grin
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Reply #180 - 02/06/11 at 11:44:34
 
It's Selena Gomez, not Miley Cyrus.

I don't and never have watched the Disney channel.
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Reply #181 - 02/06/11 at 11:46:18
 
Dan H wrote on 02/06/11 at 08:22:36:
Goose wrote on 02/05/11 at 14:23:30:
Dan H wrote on 02/05/11 at 09:57:25:
The major problem with Goose's post is that science doesn't really explain the why, it explains the what and how.


WOW.  BRILLIANT WORDS!  You have really disproven the existence of God.  WELL DONE.


Dude, I believe in God. But I also know more than the average person about science, especially in the areas of genetics and evolution. Your entire post would get you laughed out of any serious scientific discussion.


That's because "science" is inherently flawed.

People only do science because the system tells them to do it so they can earn money (which shouldn't exist in the first place.)  There is close to 0 natural incentive to do science, so governments invented money to give people an incentive to do mundane things that only they will benefit from.
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Reply #182 - 02/06/11 at 11:48:29
 
Science usually proves that the Bible is right, so why not believe that there is a God?
Also, I don't mean this in a bad way, it's just a question.
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Reply #183 - 02/06/11 at 15:28:08
 
DJT wrote on 02/06/11 at 11:48:29:
Science usually proves that the Bible is right

Not at all. Who told you this?
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Reply #184 - 02/06/11 at 16:17:04
 
Goose wrote on 02/06/11 at 11:46:18:
Dan H wrote on 02/06/11 at 08:22:36:
Goose wrote on 02/05/11 at 14:23:30:
Dan H wrote on 02/05/11 at 09:57:25:
The major problem with Goose's post is that science doesn't really explain the why, it explains the what and how.


WOW.  BRILLIANT WORDS!  You have really disproven the existence of God.  WELL DONE.


Dude, I believe in God. But I also know more than the average person about science, especially in the areas of genetics and evolution. Your entire post would get you laughed out of any serious scientific discussion.


That's because "science" is inherently flawed.

People only do science because the system tells them to do it so they can earn money (which shouldn't exist in the first place.)  There is close to 0 natural incentive to do science, so governments invented money to give people an incentive to do mundane things that only they will benefit from.


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Reply #185 - 02/06/11 at 16:54:05
 
Dan H wrote on 02/06/11 at 08:40:55:
And to clarify my last post before I get ripped to shreds for having knowledge of evolution and still believing in God... I was a Biology major in college. I mostly took classes relating to medicine, but I did have two that touched on evolution, and one that was all about evolution. I know how the theory goes, I know how evolutionists think, but I still believe in God.


I think there isn't a reason why one should be atheist when doing science about evolution or particle physics. I think there is room for your belief whether you are a theist, atheist or just believe there is a creator but not specifically one being almighty. Like in the youtube vids (in my first post) showed about genetic programming used for evolutionary creatures or a simulated intelligence, there is a creator, thats the programmer. Could it be that we are in some kind of recursive pattern? Are we programmed too? By something or just out of nothing?

By the way, in the vids you actually see one program executing a particular job like beating airman. Thats just because one of the fittest programs is chosen from a whole population of programs in a certain generation.  Each program mates with another program creating offspring. Programs are treelike structures and thus the branches are crossed. sometimes noise or a random branch/leaf is added to too. After the mating process creates offspring the weak ones die, and the strong programs (or codes) survive for th next round. And this process can go on infinitely although depending on the problem it takes a lot of computer power
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Reply #186 - 02/09/11 at 07:29:42
 
Guess what I learned in class today?

first, Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake by the church for teaching that the earth revolves around the sun  Grin

and also the Church banned Galileo from teaching that the earth evolves around the sun because at the time the church believed everything evolved around earth.

and the best part?

The church didn't apologize to Galileo until 1990! when the pope made a speech apologizing to him.

nice...church...just awesome.

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Reply #187 - 02/09/11 at 11:44:47
 
oh DARN.  THEY MADE A MISTAKE.  HOW CAN ANY RESPECTABLE SANCTIONED BODY EVER MAKE A MISTAKE?

*looks at every government around the world*


And tbh, you learning that in school is just proof of propoganda alive every day in the leftist government's education system towards anti-religion.  Governments know that one major competitor to the tyrannical power they have over their people is religion, so they try to get people to stop believing in religion.
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Reply #188 - 02/09/11 at 14:29:17
 
Wow. I have made a serious mistake! Oh well, can't go back now... Well. I guess I could... but resetting all of spacetime and reality is a pain in the ass.

And what devil gave me a status of "n00b"?

Rhetorical question. To you sir, I have prepared a special place in hell.

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Reply #189 - 02/09/11 at 14:31:50
 
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Reply #190 - 02/09/11 at 14:33:54
 
uuhm, what? There are so many religious governments.

Goose, are you just training your ultimate trolling skills? You seem to post stranger stuff all the time.

Tyrannical power over people. Do you make up this nonsense yourself for fun or are you going to shoot some people at a political congress next week.  Smiley
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Reply #191 - 02/09/11 at 14:37:18
 
Oh fuck, god himself is posting in this thread!

*praises god*

Can i win the lottery now? I need the money. Thanks in advance
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Reply #192 - 02/09/11 at 14:49:49
 
Ivootjes wrote on 02/09/11 at 14:37:18:
Oh fuck, god himself is posting in this thread!

*praises god*

Can i win the lottery now? I need the money. Thanks in advance


I get thousands of requests for this every day, but with your exuberant praise I may give you the upper hand this time.

But no matter what happens, it is my will and decision, so do not argue with it!
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Reply #193 - 02/09/11 at 15:08:24
 
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Reply #194 - 02/09/11 at 15:12:31
 
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Reply #195 - 02/09/11 at 15:18:01
 
God sure looks a lot like Jesus.
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Reply #196 - 02/09/11 at 15:18:44
 
Nothing. Nothing is "up" from my perspective, as nothing is higher than my throne.

You'll have a lot to look up to though from hell. Just haven't decided the date for when that's happening yet.
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Reply #197 - 02/09/11 at 15:26:34
 
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread,
and forgive us the wrong we have done
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Subject us not to the trial
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Reply #198 - 02/09/11 at 16:03:17
 
inb4 the pope
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Reply #199 - 02/09/11 at 16:19:49
 
Goose wrote on 02/09/11 at 15:26:34:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread,
and forgive us the wrong we have done
as we forgive those who wrong us.
Subject us not to the trial
but deliver us from the evil one.


Prayers don't have to be complex like that xD
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