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Reply #25 - 06/29/11 at 03:49:31  
Just curious: will the updating system be like in MKWii? If yes, I would like to update here aswell if possible Wink
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Reply #26 - 06/29/11 at 08:18:08  
GenesisX wrote on 06/25/11 at 11:29:09:
GhettoKarter wrote on 06/25/11 at 08:32:34:
also added a "Me" profile like on MKDS


^This, also i like how on your profile on the MKWII board you can click e.g. the rank heading and all your times appear in ascending or descending order, it makes it a lot easier to see your weaker or stronger times. I think this can be done in the order of standards also I think


It's like on MK64 I believe Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - 06/29/11 at 15:05:52  
and another suggestion...

NO shortcut WRs on the official WR chart.  The shit happens on MKW and there's no way I'm going to do shortcuts on any course! Huh
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Reply #28 - 07/01/11 at 12:33:05  
GhettoKarter wrote on 06/29/11 at 15:05:52:
and another suggestion...

NO shortcut WRs on the official WR chart.  The shit happens on MKW and there's no way I'm going to do shortcuts on any course! Huh


This, I have an idea about what we could do to ensure no MKWii drama but it probably has flaws

If we made 2 charts to start with lets call them A and B, A would be the main chart and B would have the times of the players on but would be hidden and not important.

But as soon as a glitch comes out we unhide B and say thats the sc track and someone tell everyone that from now on sc's must be sent in separately and then B can be the non main ranking that is the sc ranking Tongue

Probably has a few flaws but an ideas and idea
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Reply #29 - 07/01/11 at 14:37:53  
I think SC should be the main chart. Smiley
I mean, non-SC would be slower, plus it would simply be an old strat.
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Reply #30 - 07/02/11 at 02:29:26  
DJT wrote on 07/01/11 at 14:37:53:
I think SC should be the main chart. Smiley
I mean, non-SC would be slower, plus it would simply be an old strat.

NO.

SCs are a waste of my time.
(not that mkwii isn't in general, but large SCs distort tracks, as in, they don't follow the intended route closely, and I don't like that)
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Reply #31 - 07/02/11 at 07:46:10  
DJT wrote on 07/01/11 at 14:37:53:
I think SC should be the main chart. Smiley
I mean, non-SC would be slower, plus it would simply be an old strat.


Fuck, people don't understand that there is no such thing as "main chart". If there are 2 charts for whatever, they should and will have the same priority. People saying "this is the real chart!" are faggots who want their favourite to be seen better than the rest(probably because they're better at that chart).
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Reply #32 - 07/02/11 at 07:50:09  
^ So much agreeing.

I hope there won't be any major shortcuts so we won't even have to do this debate.
Separate charts will be done otherwise though.
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Reply #33 - 07/03/11 at 02:52:47  
Mick wrote on 07/02/11 at 07:50:09:
I hope there won't be any major shortcuts so we won't even have to do this debate.

I'd really like to believe this, but I start to laugh when I even think of it Smiley

But thinking about it more, it's only really mk64 and mkwii which have had a lot of SCs, so you never know -fingers crossed-
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Reply #34 - 07/03/11 at 06:35:34  
^what about MKSC
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Reply #35 - 07/03/11 at 07:09:40  
Nintendo more like "We are the oldest and most expert gaming company in the world and everyone treat us like we can't even create a breakfast properly".
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Reply #36 - 07/03/11 at 11:26:09  
Zwiebel wrote on 07/02/11 at 07:46:10:
DJT wrote on 07/01/11 at 14:37:53:
I think SC should be the main chart. Smiley
I mean, non-SC would be slower, plus it would simply be an old strat.


Fuck, people don't understand that there is no such thing as "main chart". If there are 2 charts for whatever, they should and will have the same priority. People saying "this is the real chart!" are faggots who want their favourite to be seen better than the rest(probably because they're better at that chart).


Then why do the MKDS news updates only talk about peoples non-prb rankings then Wink

But yeah I think that non-sc should be the main ranking as if set up from the get go should be the easier chart to maintain and of course playing the track normally instead of cutting a lot of the track is a far more official way to play.

@Mick with the controls of the glider I would be very suprised if there were no glitches, the MT system though i doubt will be glitchy at all but yeah, those gliders...
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Reply #37 - 07/03/11 at 11:30:18  
GenesisX wrote on 07/03/11 at 11:26:09:
Zwiebel wrote on 07/02/11 at 07:46:10:
DJT wrote on 07/01/11 at 14:37:53:
I think SC should be the main chart. Smiley
I mean, non-SC would be slower, plus it would simply be an old strat.


Fuck, people don't understand that there is no such thing as "main chart". If there are 2 charts for whatever, they should and will have the same priority. People saying "this is the real chart!" are faggots who want their favourite to be seen better than the rest(probably because they're better at that chart).


Then why do the MKDS news updates only talk about peoples non-prb rankings then Wink

But yeah I think that non-sc should be the main ranking as if set up from the get go should be the easier chart to maintain and of course playing the track normally instead of cutting a lot of the track is a far more official way to play.

@Mick with the controls of the glider I would be very suprised if there were no glitches, the MT system though i doubt will be glitchy at all but yeah, those gliders...


Inform yourself properly before speaking, MKDS news are covering non-prb and prb. PRB is even favoured, because the WRs are called WRs, non-prb WRs are just called SRs normally. And secondly, I'm not doing the news updates so that wouldn't be my fault anyway. Cunt.
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Reply #38 - 07/03/11 at 12:22:01  
Zwiebel wrote on 07/03/11 at 11:30:18:
GenesisX wrote on 07/03/11 at 11:26:09:
Zwiebel wrote on 07/02/11 at 07:46:10:
DJT wrote on 07/01/11 at 14:37:53:
I think SC should be the main chart. Smiley
I mean, non-SC would be slower, plus it would simply be an old strat.


Fuck, people don't understand that there is no such thing as "main chart". If there are 2 charts for whatever, they should and will have the same priority. People saying "this is the real chart!" are faggots who want their favourite to be seen better than the rest(probably because they're better at that chart).


Then why do the MKDS news updates only talk about peoples non-prb rankings then Wink

But yeah I think that non-sc should be the main ranking as if set up from the get go should be the easier chart to maintain and of course playing the track normally instead of cutting a lot of the track is a far more official way to play.

@Mick with the controls of the glider I would be very suprised if there were no glitches, the MT system though i doubt will be glitchy at all but yeah, those gliders...


Inform yourself properly before speaking, MKDS news are covering non-prb and prb. PRB is even favoured, because the WRs are called WRs, non-prb WRs are just called SRs normally. And secondly, I'm not doing the news updates so that wouldn't be my fault anyway. Cunt.


I said rankings... not WR's, both WR's are mentioned yes but I meant to say when they speak of the people moving up and down places it is always about non-prb places. No need to get so angry man  Sad
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Reply #39 - 07/03/11 at 15:03:06  
GenesisX wrote on 07/03/11 at 11:26:09:
@Mick with the controls of the glider I would be very suprised if there were no glitches, the MT system though i doubt will be glitchy at all but yeah, those gliders...

Actually I think that because of the glider they will be more careful about the possible cuts and adapt the design of the track to avoid abusive SC's (we should expect invisible walls)
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Reply #40 - 07/04/11 at 04:20:19  
GenesisX wrote on 07/03/11 at 12:22:01:
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GenesisX wrote on 07/03/11 at 11:26:09:
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DJT wrote on 07/01/11 at 14:37:53:
I think SC should be the main chart. Smiley
I mean, non-SC would be slower, plus it would simply be an old strat.


Fuck, people don't understand that there is no such thing as "main chart". If there are 2 charts for whatever, they should and will have the same priority. People saying "this is the real chart!" are faggots who want their favourite to be seen better than the rest(probably because they're better at that chart).


Then why do the MKDS news updates only talk about peoples non-prb rankings then Wink

But yeah I think that non-sc should be the main ranking as if set up from the get go should be the easier chart to maintain and of course playing the track normally instead of cutting a lot of the track is a far more official way to play.

@Mick with the controls of the glider I would be very suprised if there were no glitches, the MT system though i doubt will be glitchy at all but yeah, those gliders...


Inform yourself properly before speaking, MKDS news are covering non-prb and prb. PRB is even favoured, because the WRs are called WRs, non-prb WRs are just called SRs normally. And secondly, I'm not doing the news updates so that wouldn't be my fault anyway. Cunt.


I said rankings... not WR's, both WR's are mentioned yes but I meant to say when they speak of the people moving up and down places it is always about non-prb places. No need to get so angry man  Sad


Prb and Non-prb is mentioned in the news. I don't know what you're going for.
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Reply #41 - 07/04/11 at 17:05:22  
NonPRB and PRB are equally treated on the MKDS site. Some people prefer one chart over the other, but that's normal; they're both very respected and credible.

We can't know if MK3DS will have any SC now... and don't talk about the flying thing, I am sure Nintendo will work seriously this time around with invisible walls and stuff. They don't implement things if they can't do them properly, and the people who made MKW also made MKDD which has only one SC iirc, they will learn from their mistakes).
If an SC is eventually discovered, my opinion is that two charts must be made and equally treated, just like in MKDS. It would be the most logical thing to do, so there won't be any debating on which way to play the game is best. MKDS is a good example of how things can go right if faced properly, please don't ignore it.

I would also like to give my opinion on the problem of people not sending full timesheet.
First at all, we have to know how flaps will be treated in MK3DS. If they will be shown and if they will have online charts, most of the problems go away automatically.
Then it would become similar to other sites like MKDD and MKDS. I wouldn't force people to have full timesheet; but if there will be too many people sending only a few times, and that's what I fear, my opinion is: adopt a SMK-like system. This would help not only the site, but also them, since they'll be more inclined to improve on their weaker tracks, and we would also help them by not having them playing the same track for weeks. Wink
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Reply #42 - 07/06/11 at 18:48:26  
Nicola wrote on 07/04/11 at 17:05:22:
NonPRB and PRB are equally treated on the MKDS site. Some people prefer one chart over the other, but that's normal; they're both very respected and credible.

We can't know if MK3DS will have any SC now... and don't talk about the flying thing, I am sure Nintendo will work seriously this time around with invisible walls and stuff. They don't implement things if they can't do them properly, and the people who made MKW also made MKDD which has only one SC iirc, they will learn from their mistakes).
If an SC is eventually discovered, my opinion is that two charts must be made and equally treated, just like in MKDS. It would be the most logical thing to do, so there won't be any debating on which way to play the game is best. MKDS is a good example of how things can go right if faced properly, please don't ignore it.

I would also like to give my opinion on the problem of people not sending full timesheet.
First at all, we have to know how flaps will be treated in MK3DS. If they will be shown and if they will have online charts, most of the problems go away automatically.
Then it would become similar to other sites like MKDD and MKDS. I wouldn't force people to have full timesheet; but if there will be too many people sending only a few times, and that's what I fear, my opinion is: adopt a SMK-like system. This would help not only the site, but also them, since they'll be more inclined to improve on their weaker tracks, and we would also help them by not having them playing the same track for weeks. Wink


Bolded part made me laugh hard. Nintendo doesn't learn from their mistakes, all they do is throw more checkpoints around. I mean MKDD had one minor SC, MKDS had like 2 or 3 depending on if you count SG, now MKW has a whole bunch. Even though some SC's like rDKM, rGV2, and rDKJP save only a second. I can understand something like CM occurring, I mean Nintendo really couldn't have found a way to prevent that, but the fact that GV glitch got found...that should have been EASILY preventable.

I don't think MK3DS will be fullproof. I think it will have quite a good amount of glitches but I guess the only way to find out is to wait for the game to be released I guess.

Oh yeah and as for the main chart arguments, there has to be a main chart because of the combined ranks. Non-SC would be preferable but because of online rankings SC will probably have more competitors. I'd say SC has to be main.
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Reply #43 - 07/06/11 at 18:51:21  
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I can understand something like CM occurring, I mean Nintendo really couldn't have found a way to prevent that

yes, because driveable OoB is completely normal
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Reply #44 - 07/07/11 at 01:38:51  
They probably just didn't bother since you never were supposed to be able to get into the parking lot in the first place. It did take 3 years for a collection of millions of people to find this.

Grumble Volcano though, that was by far easily preventable, I mean anyone with half of a curious nature would be bored once and try going on that rock.
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Reply #45 - 07/07/11 at 03:43:53  
Maybe Nintendo wanted to include that sc Huh
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Reply #46 - 07/07/11 at 03:52:59  
Robertvz wrote on 07/06/11 at 18:48:26:
Nicola wrote on 07/04/11 at 17:05:22:
NonPRB and PRB are equally treated on the MKDS site. Some people prefer one chart over the other, but that's normal; they're both very respected and credible.

We can't know if MK3DS will have any SC now... and don't talk about the flying thing, I am sure Nintendo will work seriously this time around with invisible walls and stuff. They don't implement things if they can't do them properly, and the people who made MKW also made MKDD which has only one SC iirc, they will learn from their mistakes).
If an SC is eventually discovered, my opinion is that two charts must be made and equally treated, just like in MKDS. It would be the most logical thing to do, so there won't be any debating on which way to play the game is best. MKDS is a good example of how things can go right if faced properly, please don't ignore it.

I would also like to give my opinion on the problem of people not sending full timesheet.
First at all, we have to know how flaps will be treated in MK3DS. If they will be shown and if they will have online charts, most of the problems go away automatically.
Then it would become similar to other sites like MKDD and MKDS. I wouldn't force people to have full timesheet; but if there will be too many people sending only a few times, and that's what I fear, my opinion is: adopt a SMK-like system. This would help not only the site, but also them, since they'll be more inclined to improve on their weaker tracks, and we would also help them by not having them playing the same track for weeks. Wink


Bolded part made me laugh hard. Nintendo doesn't learn from their mistakes, all they do is throw more checkpoints around. I mean MKDD had one minor SC, MKDS had like 2 or 3 depending on if you count SG, now MKW has a whole bunch. Even though some SC's like rDKM, rGV2, and rDKJP save only a second. I can understand something like CM occurring, I mean Nintendo really couldn't have found a way to prevent that, but the fact that GV glitch got found...that should have been EASILY preventable.

I don't think MK3DS will be fullproof. I think it will have quite a good amount of glitches but I guess the only way to find out is to wait for the game to be released I guess.


According to your thought, games like SMG2 and NSMBW would have the Minus world and all sort of that stuff.
MKW was completely rushed and it was done according to whatever the MKDS noobs wanted on the forums, you can't take that poorly done game as an example. There was no "competition" pressure on MKDD or MKDS, why did they end up being so glitch-free, apart from PRB which was rather unexpectable (I assume developers weren't fast enough at MTing)?
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Reply #47 - 07/07/11 at 04:07:35  
I don't even know what the minus world is or nothing so I won't comment on that matter, but how was MKW rushed?

And even if it was I think GV ultra is super obvious, anyone with an ounce of creativity and boredom would find it. BC3 was one that should have been spotted like instantly though.

What's funny is on some courses like GV MG WGM and CM you can skip the whole thing, but on others the lap might not count even if you only skip one turn. MT is a perfect example of this, as is RR and even rDKJP to an extent since you have to backtrack slightly to the checkpoint itself.

On top of that even Koopa Cape will be glitched within 2-3 years.
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Reply #48 - 07/07/11 at 04:20:25  
It isn't hard to see why it was rushed: poorly balanced, easily avoidable glitches and SCs (rBC3 even makes a return after being so easily exploitable on MKSC!)...
There are two options when things like this happen: either the developers are bad, or the game was rushed or didn't get enough attention. Nintendo developers have proven countless times that they are good enough to create almost glitch-free games (creating a game with no glitches at all is almost impossible), so I take the second choice.
Also, on MK3DS they now know what happens when an online game is so glitched, and I don't think they want to see that kind of stuff happen again.

By the way, the Minus world is a SMB glitch that takes you to the infamous -1 World, which loops over and over. It's one of the better known glitches in videogaming history, I think.
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Reply #49 - 07/07/11 at 10:44:09  
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They probably just didn't bother since you never were supposed to be able to get into the parking lot in the first place.

lol "they didn't bother" is much different to "they couldn't help it"

in MKDS, OoB isn't driveable, after an invisible wall you get a bottomless pit where Lakitu picks you up, that's how it's supposed to work

I heard of that -1 world thing but don't really know how it works…
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