Ivootjes wrote on 01/13/11 at 03:51:42:Final Votecount
RVZ (7) Sword, Thewebinator, Brett, RDBU, MVT, Instride, Thegaff
I can guarantee that one (or even two) of the people on this list are mafia. Out of all the votes on RVZ, the ones that don't sit well with me are:
Brett - Seemed like a way to shift the blame off himself, was eager to post his vote to get attention away from himself, wasn't sure of his vote either.
RDBU - Came in last minute and heavily bandwagoned, voted him with a "I hope you guys are right about this", worst looking vote so far, makes him look TERRIBLE.
Instride - It was clear as day that RVZ was going to get lynched, and he didn't need to vote for him, yet he did anyway. I wouldn't normally have a problem with this, except he stated in the post with his vote "I do not feel this is the correct thing to do" ... seriously?!?!? It wasn't necessary to vote him yet you did anyway even when you didn't want to? Scum as fuck.
TheGaff - Apparently claims RVZ was "not definitely mafia" yet puts a vote on him just to save himself. I never even implied that RVZ was 100% mafia, and if you were sure he wasn't mafia, then why on earth did you vote for him? Seriously ...
MVT also was unsure of his vote but his vote made sense to me plus he had a solid reason for doing so (so we can learn more about oneshot and thiradell today) but his vote can't be ignored since he even said he didn't feel comfortable doing so. I am not suspicious of him however since his vote seemed to be leading towards a certain action whereas the rest were either for poor reason of just fucking dirty bandwagon.
My vote was honest as I did actually feel he was scum. I apologise that he wasn't, but it's gotten a potential nusance out of the way and I don't regret the lynch based on what I said above.
Another thing worth noting : I asked oneshot why I should vote for TheGaff and he asked why I shouldn't. I responded saying that his vote was nothing but a grudge vote, and he said
oneshot1985 wrote on 01/12/11 at 19:01:21:My reasoning behind voting for Tom is not a grudge vote and thats all you need to know for now. Voting Gaff is not an option soldier so don't treat it like one!
then the thread is unlocked today, he votes Gaff IMMEDIATELY again, Gaff returns the vote, then we get
oneshot1985 wrote on 01/14/11 at 06:22:10:The Gaff wrote on 01/12/11 at 06:33:11:I feel like I have to post just cause otherwise people wont say i'm active (all the US players). I wish the UK/European players would play more in the day.
We probably wont see Sean again for days.
I've asked some questions to Honko and put the heat on mvt. Would anyone like some support and cheering?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/11/11/jags-cheerleader.jpg lol it appears my vote for you may have been a grudge vote afterall. I find it hard to change my mind tho Gaff and given my role in this game this is made even tougher. I hope you understand.
Votes on Gaff: Zarkov(Mafia), oneshot(Town), Thiradell(???)
1 mafia vote could be a ploy, 2 makes you town. To go for Thiradell, my supposed faithful but maggot like recruit or my old pal the Gaff?
Realised that it was a grudge vote afterall? Not really a sign of scum but I do think anyone that followed him is sus since he admitted that his vote had absolutely no basis.
I can think of two that have followed oneshot thus far: Thiradell and InStride.
Not to mention we have some new information on our hands about the whole oneshot / Thiradell linkage theory:
oneshot1985 wrote on 01/14/11 at 06:14:21:If Tom is not mafia, we must procede with RDBU for his fatal comments above. My role mentions no link to another soldier but following me is not a reason for suspicion, its IN YOUR FUCKING JOB DESCRIPTION SOLDIERS!!!
So oneshot has not been told in PM that any player is to follow his every command. This either means that;
- Thiradell is telling the truth, he must follow oneshots commands, but oneshot hasn't been told about it
- Thiradell is lying through his teeth, he doesn't have to follow anyone and him stating that he had to do so was a last second attempt to save his ass from being lynched yesterday, which worked
RVZ flipping town has made me even more suspicious of Thiradell. He did not make a single post after him implying that he has to follow oneshot's commands, either.
Either way now he HAS to follow oneshot regardless as to whether it's his role or not because if he doesn't we'll know he is lying and therefore must either be obv scum, or a really poor pathetic town player that feels the need to lie to his team with little to no reason. Lying only works for the mafia, not for town.
oneshot was so hard on TheGaff in his posts on Page 10 and all of a sudden he has completely dropped it and gone with what I said yesterday? According to your logic padz, this makes him scummy as fuck right? Since he went from railing hard to backing off in literally 2 posts.
Typing up another post, I'll fly it in soon ...