Can we please get rid of Brett?

Sorry but it was the first ten posts of Day One. Since when have they ever been serious?

darius, are you mafia? you havent really posted much have you?

Going through one by one each person, gonna post them up one at time here as I read.

Brett - Obviously, Brett is trying as hard as he can to defend himself. After reading all his posts several times, I'm still unsure. He seems very sincere in his defense, and although he says he doesn't care, the fact that he's posted so much and so long in each post conincides with sincerety. Some of the stuff he's said obviously doesn't agree with that at all, things like trying to vote for himself to end the day early. To me only mafia would try to end the day early. I have this gut feeling that he really is town, even though logically the things he's saying suggest otherwise. The only real concern I have is this:

Brett wrote on 07/31/10 at 00:53:13:

This was before all the long-ass posts with tons of aggression, it's almost as if he knew it was gonna happen. Which suggests to me that lynching Brett may not tell us much about MVT, since the whole thing could be staged. Admittedly, I don't think anyone's pulled that kind of thing off though.

I think Brett might be town, even though he defends himself poorly. He should abandon any further defense at this point and focus on other people. After all, if he does come up town, analysis on other people will be more helpful than pages and pages of self-defence.

Matt - No readings on him, as he hasn't contributed at all. A couple superfluous posts at the beginning, and a random vote on Padz later on. I want to hear more from him, as his inactivity suggests mafia to me.

MVT - MVT is very focused on Brett. Check this out:

TellTale wrote on 07/31/10 at 09:53:55:

I could've sworn at least twice he's expressed this exact same sentiment against someone at the start of the game who did something stupid and ended up being town. MVT was also town both times I think, so that doesn't necessarily make him mafia. I think he should try to not focus so much on his gut reaction at the start of the game, as it's been wrong before. I want to know what MVT thinks of the rest of us, we all already know what he thinks of Brett. I'm undecided on MVT atm.

tl;dr, Tom to me is the most suspicious as he's been actively posting superficial posts the whole day. Of the main discussion on Brett, I lean towards town on him and I don't think he's the right person to lynch yet and his lynch may not be as decisive on others' status as some of you all seem to think.

Much relative to who, Tom? I think I've been posting just fine.

Cam: there seems to be a logical inconsistency between Tom posting like he usually does and Tom giving you a mafia vibe. Does Tom usually give you a mafia vibe?

Camster wrote on 08/01/10 at 09:08:49:



Seems you did not read my last post at all, I did vote for Tom already since he is the most suspicious person for me at the moment, and yes I don't really have experience in mafia games, so I'm a bit unsure what to do, especially since it is still day 1 and we don't really have informations at all. I'd like to post some more, but I have no ideas beside all the things which are already said. By re-reading all the stuff twice, I still have the feeling that Tom and Brett could be Mafia, Tom's posts occure strange to me, they are all short(like 1 sentence per post) and they are just accusing someone without reason or going mainstream and accusing Brett.

And I as well would like to hear some more of Matt V, I don't even remember what he said in his posts, probably uninteresting or too short to stay in my mind.

I'm not sure about webinator as well, from what I have read I have the feeling that he is town, but his posts want to make the impression that he really is active, maybe too active..,dunno, he hasn not posted that much interesting stuff as well.

And yeah, this post is probably full of summaries as well, but at least I try to help as far as I can, I'll still leave my vote with Tom because of the reason stated above

Terrible first day.  I may or may not be around at day's end, most likely not.

Figure this out yourselves.

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Okay, I'm awake and I'll be checking in periodically for the rest of the day while I work on AP summer work.

Personally I think Zwiebel is town. His posts sound like he is trying to get reads on people and the confusion he is having is just because he is new to kart mafia. Although that doesn't entirely clear him (last game was my first and I was mafia), I think it helps because he probably wouldn't be talking as much if he was mafia and it was his first game.

He seems like each post he is trying to help the town, which I think points him closer to being a townie.

What's the current vote count?

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Didn't realize there are now four votes on Tom. I find him suspicious, but not enough to lynch. I think he should come and say more though.

fine, i've got a town power role, there isn't much left in this round so i can stand up and say it before i'm kicked out.

Fuckwits. Seriously, i've done nothing but go with the crowd cause its the weekend and i've not got the time to read or post properly. Make your minds up from tomorrow when i can spend the time posting. (most of the time posting from my phone atm).

MVT and Brett had a spat. I was with Brett but I rate MVT as a town player and so far i think he's legit. Hence me voting for Brett.

I'm not sure why Darius is sus - or any of you for that matter. I've nothing to add at this point, i think Brett or MVT is mafia and if one is town then i'll vote for the other.