I think we can all agree on one thing:

Tom played pretty much perfectly this game.

i was dayvig but it only activates on day 3

Tom didn't do much of anything to defend himself and Web was a really obvious mafia.

Brett wrote on 08/02/10 at 18:39:55:


And that's why people didn't listen to you very much.

Oh yeah, and one more thing, apparently being an active player is worse for me, it almost got me lynched on D1.

Honko, you should give us the link to the mafia board, I think it would be interesting to see what Web and Tom were saying.

Brett wrote on 08/02/10 at 18:48:20:

I wanna see this too.

I want a board mafia game where I'm actually town. Mafia two times in a row doesn't help.

I'm not skilled at being a mafia, its hard to be so outward with your posts/

Also brett, there wasn't a mafia board. We communicated through PMs, and I only got to decide with him on Cam kill and MVT roleblock, there were only two sent. He was offline a lot and got killed day one.

You can't do much when its 1 v 6 after day one. I really wish Tom had at least supported his vote before he bandwagoned, for a short amount of time it seemed like it was going to be too easy.

Nice work, town! I actually thought Cam might be Tom's partner after yesterday because of the way he immediately believed the claim and started looking elsewhere. I thought it would have been better for mafia if Tom claimed something specific like cop so that at least if he did get lynched, they could identify a PR.

Web: you shouldn't be so afraid to bus your partner. If you'd made a good vote on Tom, it might have bought you enough townie cred to make it through the game. At the very least you'd have got another day.

I protected Brett last night, for anyone wanting to know.

I guess this makes up for the epic rape that happened to town during Zelda Mafia.

Matt V, I was suspect of you because you contributed nothing on D1, and D2 in your analysis you were suspect of me, which was kinda stupid if you saw what happened D1.

I thought the Cam kill was a terrible kill TBH. I probably would have went for Darius had I been mafia, as he was pretty much the most obvious townie out of all of us. Even if he did protect me N1.  

I wanted to claim Bulletproof so badly on D1 when I was gonna get lynched (or so I thought), but I didn't want to risk it. I also thought of a one-shot Vig, but I figured that might be slightly too powerful. And yes, I knew that my vote wouldn't have counted, however, I never thought of a modkill at the time. I didn't think my Vanilla role would save me from the lynch.

Lets just face it. Mafia played terrible and town was well organized from the start. This is what happens.

Brett wrote on 08/03/10 at 05:27:24:

I actually don't think killing me was that bad of a plan for mafia. Of the two mafia, I was only suspicious of Tom, who was already dead, and Web was way off my radar. Killing me might've made it look like I was onto something with someone else. I'm glad no one listened to me  

Speculating over NKs usually leads to endless WIFOM anyway, unless you have night action information. The fact of the matter is, scum's goal is often to manipulate or confuse with their targets. I tend to avoid it and I certainly wouldn't have let Cam's opinion make me think you were town. Not only that, but Cam was really quick to believe Tom's claim so taking him out of the game was removing someone who I, and possibly others, thought could well have been his partner.

Brett: your reaction to the pressure gave me a pretty strong town read on you. In addition, you supported the Tom wagon early on and didn't back down. You should always protect whoever you're most confident is town, so you were the obvious protect target. Also, lying about your role as a townie often leads to disaster, so I wouldn't recommend it.