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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #125 - 08/02/10 at 11:40:11
 
Cam is dead. He was TOWN Vanilla.

Day 2 starts now. With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when someone reaches 4 votes.

The Living
1. Brett
3. Darius
5. Matt V
6. MVT
7. Padz
8. Web
9. Zwiebel

The Dead
4. Gaff - MAFIA Vanilla, LD1
2. Cam - TOWN Vanilla, KN1
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #126 - 08/02/10 at 11:40:52
 
Well now it's certainly at least fairly clear that Web is mafia.

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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #127 - 08/02/10 at 11:44:35
 
Looks like a good call to me, MVT. As it's only 4 to lynch I'm not going to vote there.

Vote: Matt V

Stop your lurkfest and do something. Who's mafia?
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #128 - 08/02/10 at 11:46:25
 
I'm mafia now? How?  Grin

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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #129 - 08/02/10 at 11:48:11
 
Seems like Brett is Town after all...I feel that padz' is hoarding something.

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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #130 - 08/02/10 at 11:50:02
 
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #131 - 08/02/10 at 11:50:40
 
Clearly you're not taking him seriously, Web.

Unvote; Vote: Web

Let's see...you said approximately nothing about Tom, you did very little scumhunting at all, basically just called a few people town, and failed to come and place your vote at a crucial stage. Your response to the vote doesn't do you any favours either.
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Reply #132 - 08/02/10 at 11:55:30
 
I was planning to be back for the vote when the day ended, I was out at dinner and it took an hour longer than expected. Truthfully, I had no idea whether to vote Tom or Brett, because Tom hadn't posted more than one sentence for each of his posts, why would he give a two paragraph explanation on who to vote?

Of course I can't give a proper explanation now with everyone knowing Tom is mafia, but I wasn't really sure who to vote.

MVT didn't vote either, in fact he unvoted and left at the end of the day without placing any votes.
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Reply #133 - 08/02/10 at 11:59:09
 
Yes, but at least MVT was engaging with me at the time and helping me to get a read. Not being here at all is worse. You can't explain away yesterday but you could try finding some mafia today. We've got a mafia flip, plenty to work from, who do you think is scum?
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Reply #134 - 08/02/10 at 12:53:58
 
One person I REALLY want to hear more from is Matt V. He's made three posts on day 1 (nobody has made fewer posts than that), and his first two posts were completely useless.

His first post was just laughing at the fact that there were all votes so far in posts.

His second post was a joke vote on Cam.

His third post was a vote on Padz with very little insight and reasoning that supported it.

Web probably needs to post a bit more. I think he was one of the people that posted less on D1, and his posts didn't contain much thought on who was mafia.

I generally think someone out there is an independent. Reason being a 6-3 split sounds too good for the mafia, and a 7-2 split sounds too good for the town. I think there is a 6-2-1 split. It seems like the most balanced for a low power setup. Not sure. The thought sounds fairly reasonable though.

Darius is pretty obvious town now. I thought Web was town but after seeing it now I'm very unsure. Anyway I'm going to place a vote on Matt V to get him to CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING in this whole game.

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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #135 - 08/02/10 at 12:56:15
 
Actually, on mafiascum.net, 7-2 is the standard newbie game split. It allows the townies two mislynches before they have to correctly lynch scum.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1
Reply #136 - 08/02/10 at 13:06:18
 
Camster wrote on 08/01/10 at 09:16:49:
Let me rephrase that, Tom and Zwiebel are the most suspicious to me atm.

And Matt needs to post more.

this speaks volumes unless web was smart enough to frame zwiebel

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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #137 - 08/02/10 at 13:13:40
 
You really think I would have votes Tom yesterday if I was Mafia? I could have easily saved him by voting Brett or even you or anyone else with 1 vote. If you read the discussion I had with Brett, you may see that as well.

I think you're only trying a poor defense by trying to accuse the one that voted for you...at least, you wrote something. That was my intention.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #138 - 08/02/10 at 13:14:02
 
@Darius: I didn't know that, thanks for the info.

I'm trying to think about Zwiebel. My post yesterday convincing him to vote for Tom was pretty much bait because it was clear he was trying to save him. He could have been mafia voting for Tom at that point and try and use this to clear his name if a case was built on him today. Only reason I did that was because if he wanted to whack a second vote on another person and force a tie he was certainly capable.

...That would be an obvious move from the mafia. I don't know if Zwiebel is that dumb to make a move like that. He's a first time player, and I don't know him at all around the board (I know he visits the MKDS section, a section I barely go to), so I really don't have anything to go on here. I don't know, maybe he is town and fell for that ridiculous roleclaim, which hardly fits the logistics of a roleclaim.

I'm going to keep my vote on Matt V only because he contributed practically nothing on D1 and he needs to speak up on D2.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #139 - 08/02/10 at 13:16:45
 
Oh shit, that was epic, look who showed up right on cue to back up what I said.  Grin

Zwiebel, you don't really get it, mafia vote for other mafia all the time, especially in a bandwagon situation. You saving Tom would have probably made him last until D2 or D3, at which point once he was lynched you would be the most obvious scum ever.

Like Darius said, there are two mislynches of the ratios he says are correct. I typically don't like guessing the amount of mafia though, because if it is wrong it screws up the end game and it practically becomes a coin flip.
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Reply #140 - 08/02/10 at 13:28:09
 
Yeah Brett, I already admitted that I fell for the roleclaim at first...it's always easy looking back and saying "it was obvious that it was a lie", and in that moment I only thought that, if there is the chance that he really has a power role, we shouldn't take the risk to kill him on Day 1. That was why I changed my vote first, but after discussing with you I came to the decision that the role claim wasn't as good as I thought it to be first and that not voting for him wouldn't help the town either, since he would probably have gotten night killed if he really was Town and had a power role, right? Yeah, I would have done the same if I was Mafia probably(or probably even not, since I'm not experienced, as you say), so I'm not sure if this can help me look better, but I think I'm still better than Padz and Matt V, for me the persons who did the least in this game until now.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #141 - 08/02/10 at 13:34:33
 
It's so hard to properly play the game when people like Brett are so clueless and write so much garbage.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #142 - 08/02/10 at 13:39:12
 
@Zwiebel, roleclaiming is totally useless in this game unless you have a power role, can admit it, and have a mafia pinned. Tom screwed himself totally by saying "I have a power role" but not claiming what it is.

There might not even be a cop in the town actually since according to the most likely split we might only only have two mafia and one is a vanilla.

Anyway, more general here....I'm glad that Padz is viewing the thread again, he kind of dissapeared at the end of D1.

I don't have enough experience to gauge this, is MattV always this inactive in mafia games? He hasn't been on the forum at all since the day started (he was on about an hour before) so maybe he's busy or something? I can't put a vote on him yet unless he continues to stay silent but I really want to hear what he has to say.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #143 - 08/02/10 at 14:10:01
 
From the few games I've played with Matt V, he usually is more active than this.

@Zwiebel: I admit Padz hasn't posted much more than Matt V, but at least his posts are informative, compared to Matt V whose three posts contain like the most little information in the whole game. He's done shit to help us up until this point. We need thoughts from him, as far as who he thinks is mafia and what not. And if he just repeats everything that has been said into long stretched out paragraphs, that won't help prove his innocence.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #144 - 08/02/10 at 14:26:29
 
I have to eat dinner right now. I'm just going to do this unless something happens while I'm gone.

Vote: Matt V

He's my most sus right now and still has yet to talk on D2 as I already explained above.

If Brett is saying is more active than this and his only posts have been troll posts so far, he isn't helping the town at all. He needs to talk now.
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Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2
Reply #145 - 08/02/10 at 15:16:19
 
Just got in, since you all want contribution, I'll give the crowd what they want.  Post coming.
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Reply #146 - 08/02/10 at 15:44:58
 
Seriously to me it's truly quite obvious web is mafia.  Padz or MattV are the other candidates.

He still hasn't offered any defense.  He conveniently didn't bother even mentioning Tom once even though he mentioned almost every other player.   Smiley
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Reply #147 - 08/02/10 at 16:01:05
 
Again I was planning to vote either Tom or Brett at the end of the day, as well as make a post explaining my reasons, but I couldn't because by the time I came back the topic was locked.

What happened to your huge push for the Brett lynch? I thought you had him 100% cornered as being mafia....
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Reply #148 - 08/02/10 at 16:12:25
 
Web wrote on 08/02/10 at 16:01:05:
Again I was planning to vote either Tom or Brett at the end of the day, as well as make a post explaining my reasons, but I couldn't because by the time I came back the topic was locked.  That's really easy to say now after Tom came up mafia.

What happened to your huge push for the Brett lynch? I thought you had him 100% cornered as being mafia....   The whole point of me attacking him day 1 was hoping to figure out what side he was on.  It damn sure worked because he pretty much completely revealed he was town.  I'm not positive he's town but, I'm pretty sure.  Darius is also pretty sure town as well for voting Tom right away and Zwieb chose Tom at the end even though he could have gotten someone else killed easily with just his one vote.  That leaves you, padz, and mattV.  1 or 2 / 3 of you are scum.  I advise a scanner if there is one to scan one of these 3.  Or a vig to kill one of the 3 at night.  We should lynch 1/3 today though.

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Reply #149 - 08/02/10 at 16:15:28
 
I know your votes on me were due to inactivity more so than mafia leans, so let's just do a big player breakdown.

MY PLAYER BREAKDOWNS

1. Brett - Brett is on the fence, he first says Tom is town, and speaks against MVT/Darius getting an "easy townie lynch" out of him.  He was under the radar by everyone, and nearly got lynched, but everyone seems to have forgotten that.  He also insta-jumped on the Tom voting bandwagon, for weak reasons (Tom not instantly saying he was town, and in hindsight, he was suspicious of a post saying Tom thoguht he was town....weird much?).  Brett is not one to play a shitty game but he has defended himself over the top, even though it was unnecessary (kind of like I did when I was mafia, althoguh I do suck at this game lol). The only thing speaking for Brett is that he recruited Zwiebel to vote for Tom, which he'd NEVER do if he was mafia.

3. Darius - Darius started the Tom lynch, and has provided alot in the game.  I 100% think he is town, and can be trusted.

6. MVT - Really went all-out against Brett, who seems suspicious to me, which gives a town lean. Also, Tom's final post was pegging MVT as town, which is something I doubt such an experienced person would do, to try and "protect" his partner.  Therefore I get a TOWN lean. Not much else to say, MVT is one of the best players when he is playing mafia, his posting style never deviates from game to game.

7. Padz - I put a vote on padz to get some defense out of him, he was just jumping onto the lynch Brett bandwagon, which I think could be staged to blend in.  He's also after Web, who I think is town, and myself, another town. Slight mafia lean.

8. Web - Hasn't done anything suspicious, just a few joke posts, and also keeps getting pushed by padz, who is a mafia lean to me.  I think Web is the most likely town left after Darius, and our man Cam thoguht the same before he was killed.

9. Zwiebel - I can't get any read on Zwiebel.  First he goes for a mafia with the third vote on Tom, but then pulls a 180 and says that Tom needs to be rescued. Then Brett gets him to change his mind yet again.  His lack of experience is showing, but I'm not one to talk.  Again, no real lean here, althoguh maybe slightly town.

I also want to make sure Cam's posts are not forgotten, because he is an excellent player, and as a proven town could give some insight:
Camster wrote on 08/01/10 at 08:31:44:
Going through one by one each person, gonna post them up one at time here as I read.

Brett - Obviously, Brett is trying as hard as he can to defend himself. After reading all his posts several times, I'm still unsure. He seems very sincere in his defense, and although he says he doesn't care, the fact that he's posted so much and so long in each post conincides with sincerety. Some of the stuff he's said obviously doesn't agree with that at all, things like trying to vote for himself to end the day early. To me only mafia would try to end the day early. I have this gut feeling that he really is town, even though logically the things he's saying suggest otherwise. The only real concern I have is this:

Brett wrote on 07/31/10 at 00:53:13:
MVT isn't even worth replying to, he's probably mafia just trying for the easy townie lynch, and pretty soon he'll be posting long ass posts with tons of aggression towards me in them trying to get me lynched.

This was before all the long-ass posts with tons of aggression, it's almost as if he knew it was gonna happen. Which suggests to me that lynching Brett may not tell us much about MVT, since the whole thing could be staged. Admittedly, I don't think anyone's pulled that kind of thing off though.

I think Brett might be town, even though he defends himself poorly. He should abandon any further defense at this point and focus on other people. After all, if he does come up town, analysis on other people will be more helpful than pages and pages of self-defence.


Camster wrote on 08/01/10 at 08:45:00:
Darius - Hasn't posted much, but has been active. HIs efforts seem sincere, and he jumped off the Brett bandwagon to put a vote on Tom for sound reasons. This to me seems town, as he's willing to pressue who he finds suspicious, as opposed to mafia focusing on lynching someone. Town.

Tom - Tom's posting like he usually does. Funny though, it almost seems like he's randomly picking people and randomly asking them random questions, like mafia might try to do to make it look like they aren't targetting just one person for a town lynch. "Cam, are you mafia, you seem like you are." "Darius, are you mafia, you don't post much." Strange. I get a mafia vibe from Tom this game


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