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Super Mario Sunshine
07/29/10 at 09:06:55

KoopZ wrote on 07/29/10 at 07:17:29:

Antistar wrote on 07/29/10 at 03:24:14:

Awful and epic hard moment of the game indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eWwmq5Q6H4

wow, sand bird is not that hard, that guy just doesnt know how to control mario at all. any number of ways he could've gotten back to the main body of the bird besides just turning around and walking.

getting the blue coins in this level, i remember that to be pretty challenging though. up on random clouds throughout the whole climb up the tower.

Mick wrote on 07/29/10 at 07:51:22:

^ This. I didn't remember spending that much time on this one. If you are good and patient this should take only a few tries (I also agree blue coins were harder to get here).

In comparison the big manta boss took me more time to beat. I also remember some of the shines on the last stage (before Mt. Corona) to be tough task.

Should we make a SMS thread ? Grin

The answer is definitely yes, we should. And here it is.

For all of those who will never forget what is and will always be the best Mario 3D game ever, much better than his too highly acclaimed lack-of-flavour follower, Mario Galaxy, here is a thread dedicated to it.

First of all, I highly encourage all of you to visit the complete guide & walkthrough I wrote down for my website more than 7 years ago, even if it's in full French:

http://www.mario-museum.net/guide_sms.htm

And then, let's keep on talking about that damn Sand Bird, indeed I have to agree with KoopZ, there are much harder moments in this game and terribly hard shines to get (I especially think about the one needing Yoshi for the final one in Ricco Harbor). But it remains in my mind one of the most epic parts of this game, at the same level as the poisoned river, the Pianta Village Mayor's rescue or the endless hotel maze.

Enjoy the place, shine addicts. Smiley

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Jonathon Elite Offline MKDS 4 lyfe fell 5288 times for marty	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #1 - 07/29/10 at 09:15:32 There is a level in the haunted hotel level that took me ages to find. I think it was the one where you needed a certain fruit, and had to bounce on the bed through the ceiling
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Web NinjaWeb Offline Expected MKSC Comeback: 2016?!?! ate 5795 donuts Gender:	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #2 - 07/29/10 at 09:17:03 I spent so much time trying to get all 120 shines on SMS. Those damned blue coins took forever to find. Still, I do think it is the best of the 3D Mario Platformers.
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Rhodechill Legend Offline An actual sprite of a SMK Kerpa Derpa 5945 days karting Rainbow Rhode Island Gender:	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #3 - 07/29/10 at 09:18:25 This game owns because it has durians. Also, Gelato Beach's watermelon festival.
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Reply #4 - 07/29/10 at 09:20:55

Jonathon wrote on 07/29/10 at 09:15:32:

There is a level in the haunted hotel level that took me ages to find. I think it was the one where you needed a certain fruit, and had to bounce on the bed through the ceiling

Yeah this is what I mentioned when talking about the hotel maze lol. Terribly long and frustrating shine to get.

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Aron Langerak wrote on 08/06/17 at 13:47:24:

MKDD is not technical at all

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The feeling of being a world champion is intoxicating, and I didn't want to ever not be the world champion again. Then I realized it didn't matter that much since I had nothing more to prove and achieved my most important goal(s).

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Sorozone NinjaSorozone Offline Soro 5950 days karting Arizona Gender:	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #6 - 07/29/10 at 09:28:28 The hidden pipe level on the far island out to sea, where you had to get Yoshi and ride the boats to get there. The poisonous river...by far the worst level ever.
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Mick Ninja Offline 6045 sex records France Gender:	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #7 - 07/29/10 at 09:32:18 Now I remember that level on Gelato's Beach where you had to push down to the beach a giant watermelon without broking it. It was madness !
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MVT Ex Member	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #8 - 07/29/10 at 10:43:08 I actually tried to play this game and bought it when it came out, but was taken aback at how tediously uninteresting, and quite frankly boring the game was. After a few days I stopped playing and haven't tried again since.
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Rhodechill Legend Offline An actual sprite of a SMK Kerpa Derpa punched 5945 kiddies Rainbow Rhode Island Gender:	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #9 - 07/29/10 at 11:31:53 I rented the game from Hollywood Video 9 years ago and haven't returned it to this day.
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Reply #10 - 07/29/10 at 12:14:59

Rhodechill wrote on 07/29/10 at 11:31:53:

I rented the game from Hollywood Video 9 years ago and haven't returned it to this day.

8 years ago actually cuz the game was released in 2002.

But you ROCK, congrats. Smiley

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Aron Langerak wrote on 08/06/17 at 13:47:24:

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Reply #11 - 07/29/10 at 12:41:38

Sorozone wrote on 07/29/10 at 09:28:28:

The hidden pipe level on the far island out to sea, where you had to get Yoshi and ride the boats to get there.

The poisonous river...by far the worst level ever.

I hated this, I never actually got all 120 shines, I stopped at 104 because it was annoying me.

I wonder what the smallest number of shines is in order to complete the game? I know you need 7 from each of the 7 levels = 49, and 1 from the Airstrip = 50. But you can ship shines 1 on Noki Bay and Bianco Hills, so I think 48 is possible?

The game itself was nice though, the only thing is I feel that the routes were too...strict. With SM64 you could practically get any star whenever you wanted, but on SMS they made you stick to a certain route. This IMO was a big drawback to the game.

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Reply #14 - 07/29/10 at 15:04:11

Woooo! I'm mainly an eliter, but Thingy directed me to this topic and I had to make a post. SMS is my favorite game for the GameCube, I've done any% and 100% speedruns:

http://www.youtube.com/Thiradell

I'm also participating in a Video Quiz that's currently going on on GameFAQs:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/533287-super-mario-sunshine/55210626

It's crappy so far 'cause the task-makers are just doing stuff like "complete Episode 7" and "complete Episode 8 WITHOUT THE ROCKET NOZZLE" but hopefully it gets better.

To comment on the "forced to do each episode in order" thing, I thought that was cool because they tried to make mini-stories within each area, especially in places like Noki Bay and Pianta Village. SM64 is pretty much just "get the Stars in this area," and it's still really fun, but story is a big thing for me and I really appreciated what Sunshine tried to do with it.

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Reply #16 - 07/29/10 at 19:55:09

SMS is a 9/10 game for sure.

Some interesting challenges:

- from a new game, get as many shines as you can without pressing the A button. You have to press 'A' to choose an episode, but otherwise don't. You can get 33 shines.

- from a new game, get as many shines as you can without unlocking Bianco Hills. I think the max was 10 shines. You can get some blue coins, but can't exchange them since the raccoons are closed.

- collect all 231 coins in Noki Bay. There's a tall line of coins in the rocket nozzle area, but this episode doesn't have a rocket nozzle. You need some genius tricks to reach them.

- beat the game without hovering. You only need to "hover" with the deep-sea suit to "swim" in underwater levels, but you don't need to hover in mid-air. You can even get 120 shines. Some are very tricky.

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Reply #17 - 07/29/10 at 20:06:08

might have to break out my cube and play this again. couple shines of note that i remember having trouble with...

-the random island with the pipe that you need yoshi for
-watermelon festival
-there's a place where the boat goes under in the plaza with a whole that you can only get into by jumping it from the boat or rocket nozzling up there. iirc, it was a pachinko game red coin challenge. i had SO much trouble with that one.
-final red coin challenge in pianta village. if its you're first time going thru it, its a bitch to find all 8 coins on your own, since they're so spread out. and then getting to the shine once you find them all was a wtf moment for me.
-final shine in ricco harbor with yoshi
-manta ray attack in sirena beach. i hated that one.

my favorite shine by far though was the squid race thing in ricco harbor (shine #2 i believe). i remember thinking i had a good time, then finding out the best time was like ~12 seconds faster than mine due to an SC that i hadnt even thought about looking for. alex, did you find that? or was it someone else?

random edit: thiradell, you live in MO???? where?

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Reply #19 - 07/30/10 at 20:35:29

KoopZ wrote on 07/29/10 at 20:06:08:

might have to break out my cube and play this again. couple shines of note that i remember having trouble with...

-the random island with the pipe that you need yoshi for
-watermelon festival
-there's a place where the boat goes under in the plaza with a whole that you can only get into by jumping it from the boat or rocket nozzling up there. iirc, it was a pachinko game red coin challenge. i had SO much trouble with that one.
-final red coin challenge in pianta village. if its you're first time going thru it, its a bitch to find all 8 coins on your own, since they're so spread out. and then getting to the shine once you find them all was a wtf moment for me.
-final shine in ricco harbor with yoshi
-manta ray attack in sirena beach. i hated that one.

my favorite shine by far though was the squid race thing in ricco harbor (shine #2 i believe). i remember thinking i had a good time, then finding out the best time was like ~12 seconds faster than mine due to an SC that i hadnt even thought about looking for. alex, did you find that? or was it someone else?

random edit: thiradell, you live in MO???? where?

Yeah, that was another gay level.
Nintendo probably thought it would be a good idea to put so many 1ups in Super Mario Galaxy, because of Sunshine. The pachinko and the poisonous river hidden levels...I probably wasted over 100 lives.

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Reply #20 - 07/31/10 at 00:12:41

Wow I forgot about the pachinko game, yeah I hated that one too. It got to the point that the jumping trampoline laungher thingy pissed me off so much I would just wallkick up into the game.

Oh yeah and it's also possible to get one or two of the coins just by walking up the back of the game and diving into one of the slots. One definitely, two possibly, it's been too long since I played this game.

Another level that took me FOREVER to find was the warp pipe that was located past Pinna Park that they intended on you using a rocket nozzle for. That thing was annoying trying to find the 8 coins. I loved the red bird in that level though, he appears nowhere else (AFAIK) in the game.

@Penev: Is there any single mission in particular you must choose to collect all 231 coins? I don't feel like trying only to find out I picked the wrong mission.

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Brett Ex Member	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #22 - 07/31/10 at 01:11:08 I was afraid it was one of those two, yeah I doubt I can get 231. I thought you could get 999 in theory from the cannon guy in mission one though. Same with Pinna Park.
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AlexPenev Master Ninja Offline I play in 70Hz 7997 days karting	Re: Super Mario Sunshine Reply #23 - 07/31/10 at 01:19:29 There's 4 levels with 999s: Delfino, Pinna, Sirena and Pianta. The cannon bombs in Noki stop giving coins after a little while (fewer than a dozen coins, so not many at all). To get 231 you have to carry a trampoline all the way to the high rocket nozzle ledge.
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