wow, and once again the kart contests bring out old stuff from the past.  Anyhow, I can confirm that he has legitimate "secret shortcuts".  Hell, there are other karters that have some too... I wish one of them was me, but ya, I could never keep one to myself, cause I'm too much of a glory hound, and have to have people talking about me all the time, so there is no way I could keep anything of my own a secret.

Wonn showed me all the stuff in my visit in the year 2000 spanning pretty much any game you could imagine.  Lots of glitches, and even powerful strats and such in some popular titles.  

As far as my view on it... I am mixed on it.  Whalls often criticizes me on this one, and he does have a point that since I did set the example to always share my stuff, and encourage others to, then I should be totally hating on Wonn, since well, wasn't that the reason I was irritated with Gallo?

So ya, maybe I do have a bias there, cause well heck, Wonn is a huge reason I got into Kart 64.  Probably second only to Tyler Stobbe really, my local friend.  Cause it was his water shortcuts in KB1 and VL2 that Tyler used to me that brought the whole Wonn and Cambellsville bunch stuff to the surface, and from then on, I wanted to make sure I was the very best ever in Kart 64... well... I was for 2 years, at least.

So ya, I guess I'm biased, I'll admit it, but I do see your guys' point, cause hell if it's me, you know I'd tell ya, but I have began to accept after 1000s of members that people are not always like me, and it's ok for me to disagree, but still be their friend (although it's hard, trust me)

So ya, I hope he does reveal it, but just keep in mind, he can only theorize how it works, cause it only worked like once I think.  Still though, if he says the track, you pretty much can think of it anyhow, it's just a matter of doing it.

I'll give you all one for free though, that was told to me by Ben Miller a long time ago.  He has had ONE successful land, but that's it!

CM SC #?

Start by doing the race normally until you go past the underpass and then turn around and face the underpass in the direction you would basically be going to the start finish line.  From here, what you want to do, is bounce off the rocks before the tunnel, and have it side scroll you through the actual tunnel wall and the advance through the blank terrain and eventually go in the mystery water.  If you get high enough, and go far enough, you may be able to catch the corner of the extended over and down finish line and skip a lap.  then you'll get placed back, and you basically repeat this 2 more times for what like a 40 second race or less?

Anyhow, that should tide ya over for now, but if anyone recreates it, make sure to thank Ben Miller.


But ok, I will make an exception... I think stuff like the Perfect Dark Virus should not be shared, other than be warned not to do x thing, and leave it at that.  Before my HD got messed up, I actually have the dex drive for the virus save.  Seriously, an N64 virus?  Nasty!

or ya, things like being able to go to message boards and delete posts or reading peoples MB stuff (loudhouse 1997), are things that were best for us not to share with everyone  I think the NOA's would have sued us if they knew we were reading up on them!  

EDIT:  oh yes, There might be a Kevin Booth/David Wonn ticket for president in 2012

I can't work out if you're being antagonistic on purpose or not.

I'll try to break down some of these points without quoting directly.

1) When compared to a mkwii hacker you jump on it as a saving grace suggesting that you see what they are doing as detrimental and use that as an excuse for not revealing your glitches/sc's. However, this is a totally different game with a totally different mechanism. Cheating to get on the leader boards can work on mkwii, it can't on mk64 so easily.

2) We have been able to TAS now for quite some time. In certain games we've pulled apart the actual coding to see what is possible and what is not, i'm sure if you gave us an idea we could work together as community to figure out how to recreate your fluke quite easily.

3) Stop talking about game breaking glitches.. ffs.. the PD or DKC glitches bare no relevance in this conversation. This is about the MK glitches you know which are relevant to this community. As a side note, if you knew a MK glitch which would break the game/machine then tell people what it is anyway, its upto the individual if they want to break the game.

4) You talk about how the community was different back then, yes it was, and I was there from about '98/'99 and I dont remember any board posts on the-elite.net polling or even bringing up these possible SC's. So you just kept them to yourself which amounts to whoaring strats/potential or not.

fuck it, i will quote you

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I said from my first post - this is not about the contest at all in my opinion. This is about information you have knowingly/purposefully kept from the MK community for over 10 years.

However, If you want to use it as your campaign then go for it. I think you just lost 99% of votes from the MK64 community because they think you're a cunt for keeping the SC's hidden all these years. Quite ironic that what you thought would make you popular is having the complete oppposite effect. To be honest, i've always respected you all these years for your amazing abilities to break games/glitches etc but now I've got no time for you.

oh - and as a last point, so gracious of you to reveal that you once made it through the tracks on KD. So much information, which character, which area of the track etc. If you remember you should start there with what specifics you do know. If you can't remember then it just goes to show you should've said it at the time when you did remember.  

to re-emphasize tom's point:  we can determine the validity of your SCs MUCH more easily these days.  so i agree with him and many others who have said that they see no point in you hiding them much longer.  its not like you're not going to get the proper credit for said SCs either, assuming they work.  i really do not see a point in concealing them any longer.

i will prolly still vote for you, but i see now that whalls really wasnt joking a whole lot when he wrote that first fake chat.  

The story with the gold made me agree with mr. Wonn

wow, Wonn, you must be retarded, everyone here is trying to make you understand how stupid you're being, and from your replies it seems like you don't even care

very sad

I just felt like posting in this thread because all the other cool people were doing it.

(Even Michael!)

It's entirely your discovery and yours to do what you wish with it.

Though it is rather dickish to tell everyone on the board that you found it but are not going to tell us.

Shock wrote on 05/20/10 at 08:02:04:

I think most people probably would keep the gold.  

Yeah, I was just being annoying  

David Wonn is going to post a recant.  Go ahead and make further responses on that new topic.