Personally I think thats a load of shit and my high opinion of you is rapidly diminishing (please let this be known that my opinion here is not related to this campaign or my voting).

If you know of some shortcuts then you should share them. We recently included the KD SC to the charts etc. Surely its down to the community to decide what should or should not be included.. not you..

Just to re-ask a question many have asked: If you don't win, will the sc remain classified?

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Fair enough criticism. I noticed other campaigns were promising this or that if they win, so I figured I could contribute something of real substance. If the majority decide that my "campaign" is potentially skewing votes and derailing the contest, then I will consider withrdawing this campaign. I just thought it was a good chance to give back to the community once again, but perhaps not everyone sees it that way. Popularity contests have never really been my thing, so I just wanted to spice things up a bit. What does everyone here think?
 
And to answer the question regarding the shortcut, I originally wanted to unveil it to certain individuals back in the day whom I thought had the best chance of being successful at recreating it. I kept trying to get one or two particular individuals to come to Kart meets in recent years, so when they never came, I figured this Kart contest was a good way to stir up interest in an old fluke shortcut. I eventually plan on unveiling it anyway, so losing this contest does not necessarily mean it goes back to the vault indefinitely. I'm just trying to have some fun with this contest, but if it's unfairly ruining the experience for others, I will reconsider.

Your "pathetic attempt" at a campaign has produced the first campaign thread to reach a second page, so you can't be doing a bad job!  

oh god

about the glitches you talked about, for what games are those?

thanks for ignoring me

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Sorry. Your post sneaked in there while I was typing the last one, as I have been between other things. Anyway, Perfect Dark is a perfect (sorry for the pun) example of where such glitches can go way out of hand. Although I thought of taking it down at one point, I kept the "776 days" glitch on my site for historical purposes. I am not responsible for anything you do with the glitch, so it is at your own risk. If you mess with it, you will see why I do not discuss which other games have glitches as severe as this one. You have been warned. :-)

I accept that there may be good reasons not to publicize. but I take it that no such good reasons apply in this case, or else it would be meaningless to promise the revealing of it as a sort of prize for letting you win.
    That taken care of, I totally agree with Tom. He argues well, so I see no need to repeat his reasoning. This stinks, and I can only hope it's a joke!

edit: I'll just underline one point, though. Quite apart from what I think about hiding strats, I find it disgusting that you are willing to distort the competition. I think that's pretty disrespectful of those who spend a lot of time and energy making it happen, and I really do hope the thought of that will make you reconsider.

finn

i've just read the poll options. I really dont see the option for

"do you think I should just release my knowledge of the SC to the community right this second as its what i should've done 5 years ago?"

Yeah, as Tom said, I miss a poll option too: "yes, you have crossed the line. You can stay in the contest but please change your campaign"

I'd say:
First decide for yourself if you want to release your knowledge it or not.
If you don't want to release it (which I still find very hard to imagine), don't do it and don't post about it here.
If you want to release it, do it within a reasonable amount of time: either right now (best option) or if you want to build up some suspense do it within a few weeks. If you really want to build it into your campaign, you could announce that you'll release it soon after the contest, no matter what happens, but that if you win some rounds you'll post it on a day of one of your wins to celebrate the win.

Btw, interesting how i need such a lame topic to get me back to posting here...

Wonn this may sound like an obscure comparison and you probably won't even understand what I am referring to, but you sound quite a lot like the 15 year old mkwii hackers who claim glitches and never reveal them or destroy the Nintendo top 10 charts for their own self interest.  These people are the most hated members of the mkwii community by a mile.  These people often view things through very strange lenses where they are right no matter what argument is thrown at them and they enjoy dangling things over people to control them.

Basically the connection is that you are dangling this shortcut over our heads just to get votes and win this contest.  The most respected members of the community have given their honest opinions and the overwhelming majority of folks think it is completely wrong of you to hide this shortcut in the first place.  It's also very bothersome that you seem to be implying that there are way more than one shortcut you are hoarding in your 1997 vault.  You are viewing everyone's opinions through a really distorted lens where a decision you made in 1997 is being stuck to like glue to this day.  Wouldn't 13 years of further maturity be enough for you to rethink such a choice?

Pretty much I have seen so many people who speak very similar to you in the mario kart wii community.  This scenario may be slightly different with the amount of time that you have held these glitches and shortcuts away but you are no different than a little kid immaturely toying with very respected community members.  You ignore all of what they have to say and only look out for your own self interest.  It's really sad that someone your age would still do this.

To address 2 claims you made.

The shortcuts / glitches are flukes - I highly doubt that these are flukes.  Of course if you are the only one who ever tried to do it and as you said you haven't played the game since 2003 then how can you expect to perform this "fluke" again with such minimal effort?  If a whole community is trying for it I am sure it would be performed quite quickly.  This fabled KD SC  is clearly not common knowledge.  You say you revealed it but there is no guide anywhere available on the internet to perform it or even a general idea to allow people to TRY it.  It's a shame that you claim such a shortcut to be revealed yet almost no one knows anything about it.

This stuff will destroy the game! - If this stuff is game destroying I really don't think you have anything to worry about.  The whole community really wants you to reveal so the responsibility and blame will fall into our hands for pushing you to reveal if these glitches and shortcuts turn out to be so devastating.  I can't imagine them being so bad, but it's the community's fault if they are not yours.

That's my honest opinion.  I hope you choose to reveal all of your hidden glitches and shortcuts no matter the outcome of this contest.  1997 is long gone, time to make new choices and modern day decisions.  Straighten out your moral compass because it's pretty screwed up right now.

TellTale wrote on 05/19/10 at 15:14:42:

 
Wow, I am surprised that some are interpreting things this way (and yes, I read your whole comment.) Those who have known me well enough over the years (especially in the high ranks in this community) know that this is not how I am; in fact I despise the tactics of these "script kiddie"-types you are referring to. I have avoided playing Kart Wii online for the reason you mention. At least the Brawl hackers can't impact people's scores since scores aren't even kept, so I have played that game online without worries of these hacker-wannabes messing with my stats.
 
Yes, I enjoy exploiting glitches and shortcuts whenever possible. However, when playing people in person or over ZSNES (back in the day), I generally do not use them, unless I am playing against skilled players who are aware of the shortcuts. I always make the rules clear before playing. If I wanted to "dangle" these shortcuts over people's heads as you suggest, I would have done that years ago. That is not how I am.
 
Some people are taking this kart contest more seriously than I could have imagined. I see it as nothing more than a popularity contest. I stayed out of the previous ones. Now this time I decide to experiment and try something that hasn't been tried by others, and people are immediately concluding there is malicious intent. Is this karter contest really taken so personally? I am just having fun with it, but not everyone agrees.
 
In good faith, I have gone through old college e-mails to find the Kalimari Desert fluke shortcut that was unveiled to the community. I won't copy-paste all the e-mail addresses I sent this to for obvious reasons, but Andy Launspach, Kevin Booth, Dirk Wegener, Jerad Rose, and Chuck T. are just a few names that will be familiar to many in this community. Here are some snippets:
 
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So yes, this was spread to the (then smaller) community. The MK64EC, headed by ItsaMePete, was one of the communities to respond saying that they would get to work on it right away. They were somewhat similar to a glitch-hunting community for the time. Nobody from their community or anywhere else ever did manage to recreate the shortcut. I did not regain access to the Internet until the following April. By that point in time, the Kart 64 community had mostly forgotten about it and moved on. And the rest, as they say, is history.

Well Wonn you addressed about half my post.  The important half though you avoided.