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POY 2009
12/26/09 at 01:58:07
 
Who for POY? =D
I'd say Mick.
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Reply #1 - 12/26/09 at 09:26:17
 
Mick ; I've no doubt about that. Wink
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Reply #2 - 12/26/09 at 17:34:42
 
Mick. He was just too good for the rest of the top 10 this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at #1 sometime next year.
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Reply #3 - 12/26/09 at 19:46:54
 
Flo, get off Mick's dick you retarded faggot.

I'd say it's between Mick and Etch. I'm going for Etch because he's American. Also some other stuff that I'm sure he will explain.
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Reply #4 - 12/26/09 at 19:58:37
 
Mick does have a strong case, going from #4 to #2. However, Etch also has a convincing case, moving from somewhere outside the top 20 to #6 at the end of the year.

It would be useful if someone had saved the stats from January 1st of this year (I know I will save stats for next year).
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Reply #5 - 12/26/09 at 20:12:10
 
Yea, more than halving your AF and ARR, 10 pow's 3 pom's and at least 1 poq with a shitload of pr's from may through december just doesn't cut it these days. Grin
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Reply #6 - 12/26/09 at 22:59:10
 
I'd go with Etch. Not just because he's American, but because he went from Expert to Titan in just a few weeks, cranked out a WR while he was at it, and never failed to one-up every one of my own PRs. (That alone takes me out of POY contention!   Grin)

Mick, he was already near the top to begin with, though being only the third Myth player is arguably totally badass.
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Re: POY 2009
Reply #7 - 12/27/09 at 01:14:05
 
Mick started from #30 less than 2 years ago.
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Reply #8 - 12/27/09 at 03:09:49
 
^Its about 2009 not about where he was 2 years ago. tough decision between Mick and Etch. Mick was more consistently active while since May Etch has been active nearly every week. I think Etch but it will be a tight poll.
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Reply #9 - 12/27/09 at 04:29:17
 
Fant0m wrote on 12/27/09 at 01:14:05:
Mick started from #30 less than 2 years ago.


That's great, Flo! He started at #3 in 2009!
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Reply #10 - 12/27/09 at 10:02:32
 
Robert Szabo is the one!
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Reply #11 - 12/27/09 at 10:34:55
 
Mick and Etch are obviously the only two deserving of the award.

Mick made it to #2, but he was already a top player. Hit some more WRs, which is expected from him at that level.

Etch moved from like #30 all the way to #6. He must have cut about 66% of his AF, while Mick cut no more than 50%. Etch did get a WR as well, which wasn't quite expected of him.

Tough choice really, but I would go with Etch for sure.
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Reply #12 - 12/27/09 at 12:03:58
 
When Etch became #6 ?
Mick , more WRs , better AF and ARR , good AF and ARR cut


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Reply #13 - 12/27/09 at 12:27:42
 
Etch deserves POY as much as I do, if not more, tbh.
He could get close to my level if he keeps going on 2010.

Also I wasn't active all along this year and did many breaks, including a big one between fall Spring and July, either because I was busy ot because I thought I plateaued...
Stats would have been interesting but I don't think anyone has them Smiley

Anyway it's up to the Gaff to decide how the award should be given. But imo poll seems the best option (with only regulars MKSC players being allowed to vote though). Most fair option.
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Reply #14 - 12/28/09 at 12:15:15
 
Brutus wrote on 12/27/09 at 04:29:17:
Fant0m wrote on 12/27/09 at 01:14:05:
Mick started from #30 less than 2 years ago.


That's great, Flo! He started at #3 in 2009!

He didn't get the previous POY because we had to give it to Seb, but we all said that we would obviously give it to Mick if he continued to PR as much.
I think he PRed a lot to get more than 3. of AF cut at his #3 spot.
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Reply #15 - 12/28/09 at 14:04:31
 
Mick had a great year we all agree but you cant just give it  to him because he came close last year.
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Reply #16 - 12/29/09 at 02:06:11
 
I think he is just the one who deserves it the most.
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Reply #17 - 12/29/09 at 09:57:29
 
Mick passed some of the best ZZMTs players w/o using ZZMTs.
The choice is very easy.
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Reply #18 - 12/29/09 at 12:09:59
 
"some" implies more than one

Fant0m wrote on 12/29/09 at 02:06:11:
I think he is just the one who deserves it the most.


I don't think anyone cares what you think  Undecided
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Reply #19 - 12/29/09 at 15:12:13
 
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Mick passed some of the best ZZMTs players w/o using ZZMTs.


Isn't Sami the only other player in the top 10 besides Pierre and Seb who zzmt? Huh

If this is about overcoming all players who submit zzmt times, we all have to deal with that like PC flap.

I don't want people to confuse passing one inactive player due to their being zzmt or non-zzmt with af/arr cuts as being a reason for POY.  We submit all our times under one table which is not split.  The other kart sites usually focus on individual improvements but I don't know if mksc is different.

This game still has a long way to go so it shouldn't surprise anyone a great player like Mick can take down 1-3 year old times that used zzmt.  If you can't use the boost properly, it's just as good as not boosting.  Solid driving is critical to getting top times and Mick is proof it takes the best to beat some of those records.
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Reply #20 - 12/30/09 at 07:21:54
 
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Why?  Huh
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Reply #21 - 01/17/10 at 22:49:50
 
Mick should be POY 2010, make no mistake about that ! Cool

Passing two karters inside the top 5 ranking (from #4 to #2) and especially owning Pierre's ZZMT times without the help of ZZMT definitely deserves more credit than reaching #7 in the world when ranked #25 at the beginning of the year (which is great, but not good enough in that case, no offense intended) !

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Reply #22 - 01/18/10 at 15:08:15
 
Yea Mick can have 2010, I just want 2009! Smiley

Like I said earlier, the charts make no distinctions between zzmt and nonzzmt times so I don't understand why that is important.  If we had split charts that might make more sense but it's just choosing between one guy who hit a bunch of records to move up a couple spots and one guy who raped his time set through the whole year.

I'm happy with either one of us winning but ffs let's decide this before next year.
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Reply #23 - 01/18/10 at 22:40:38
 
Yeah, I meant 2009, not 2010, sorry about that.

Well, that's important because it clearly shows how fucking skilled he is. Not only the maths matter for POY: style and brilliance too Cool
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Reply #24 - 01/19/10 at 10:08:09
 
Well I could tack a bunch of unprovable, highly subjective superlatives onto Etch too if it would help his case for POY  Undecided
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