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50Hz is the equivalent of "Slow" on Guitar Hero (Read 1330 times)
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Re: 50Hz is the equivalent of "Slow" on Guitar Her
Reply #75 - 06/05/10 at 13:50:58
 
Excuse me, but how in the fuck is this trolling?  Huh
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Reply #76 - 06/05/10 at 14:20:07
 
Because, dude, haven't you heard?  Any time you go against the status quo or say something that might be unpopular, you're OBVIOUSLY only doing it to piss people off.  How can you not know that?  God you're an idiot.  EVERYONE knows that.
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Reply #77 - 06/05/10 at 14:24:04
 
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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in case you didn't get it i meant posting in this thread
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Reply #78 - 06/05/10 at 14:26:14
 
andrew... (this is not to say something against you, i just want to clear the 50hz 60hz stuff..) i think we should be happy about the fact, that we can play this game... and we also should be proud about our skills, i mean, ok, you're not the best with your 60hz times, but: you're better then (nearly) everyone else. you're a TOP with your times, and you did them in 60hz. other players (like marijn and kouider) could beat the WRs easily in 50hz, but if they take enough effort in 60hz, they also could beat them in 60hz. i don't see any problems with "strats which are better to handle in 50hz", just put enough time into it and you can also do the same stuff... it's like the DDJ SC: it is also a difficult to achieve SC, and you can't do it first try. but if you practise enough you are somedays able to do it, you just have to learn HOW you do it... and please, i think we have really enough reasons what for advantages 50hz and 60hz have... hm... ok, i have a last reason: you held a 60hz WR, which was overall WR. it was 0"3 seconds faster then 50hz. and i think it was because you practised a lot. i also held a 60hz (overall) WR, because i tried this course really, REALLY often..

and maybe the 60hz players get trolled from some 50hz players, who are better but please: you don't must listen to them, i mean, maybe you say some stuff about "50hz is cheating", but if you don't do this, the 50hz players will stop to say somethin about it...  i just wish you all see that it's just a game, a game for people who love it to achieve better and better records, where the factor shouldn't be the hz, the factor should be the skill, patience and maybe... fun. sometimes i really think that they playto say: "hahaha, i'm better then everyone in the world in MKDD!!!!" but i imagine it in that way: you sit in front of your TV, you play for hours without any PRs, get frustrated, maybe a case of anger and you stop playing, unsuccessful. and this every day, till you get somedays a PR and say: "haaa! finally a new PR..." and you try it again because you think you've a good day. then you get another unsuccessful phase and stop again.. every fucking day. but why you don't see the game as fun? just think about it. don't be frustrated about every fail try. be happy about them, because every fail try means, that your skill grows a little bit more.. you play with some smiles and maybe with more success, because you feeled happy while playing

i hope this was clearly expressed.  Smiley
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Reply #79 - 06/05/10 at 14:49:22
 
well my problem is that it takes less effort to beat a time in 60Hz in 50Hz. Id have to play twice as much as Kouider to achieve his current rank. Some top 50Hz players just shit all over 60Hz players, it annoys me. As i have said, 32/32 WRs are 50Hz for this reason. It takes less effort to make great times. 60hz WRs should be treated with as much respect as 50Hz WRs.  Wink
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Reply #80 - 06/05/10 at 14:54:50
 
@ndrew wrote on 06/05/10 at 14:49:22:
well my problem is that it takes less effort to beat a time in 60Hz in 50Hz.

you think that? i must say... it's also really annoying that not every MT is working perfect in 50hz ( i mean that you sometimes have to smash your controller to get a new sparkle color) and then you have to restart if you fail a MT... it's of course easier to handle, but it's also harder to MT  Undecided

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60hz WRs should be treated with as much respect as 50Hz WRs.  Wink


i agree.
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Reply #81 - 06/05/10 at 14:57:15
 
Well I am 100% sure it takes less effort. Just from asking top players who switched from 60Hz to 50Hz. Many of them felt like they maxed out in 60Hz, so they switched to 50Hz to gain the edge.  I wouldn't have a problem with this. If people at the top didn't harass me about times, even though i beat their 60Hz times.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #82 - 06/05/10 at 15:04:34
 
they thought it needs less effort, and then they als practised it... so they learned the specific sort of MTing and got the feeling for the slower driving (oh and i also played some 50hz, but the only thing where i think it's easier is the R-Tech... my 60hz R-Tech sucks, but in 50hz it's scary how easy it is Roll Eyes ) ok... sry if i say "practise" so often, but slowly i really believe into the MKDD for noobs site: the 3 factors of success: practise, practise and practise...
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Reply #83 - 06/05/10 at 15:07:43
 
Exactly. Once you are adjusted to the slower speed, pwning you old 60Hz prs is a piece of cake. And yes the WC spiral is much harder in 60Hz.
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Reply #84 - 06/05/10 at 15:22:14
 
naah... not always^^ i have really big problems with beating my times (except from RR and WC, where i use R-Tech^^) , especially in MCR i sometime think "that was a really good lap!" and then the split is shown: a 29"2xx 1 shroomer 2nd lap. D: maybe some guys aren't made for 50hz  Undecided
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Reply #85 - 06/09/10 at 04:06:42
 
Andrew, once more I really have to disagree with you. I don't think there is one player in the world who quitted 60hz because he thought it was maxed. People just playing timetrials without knowing the site. Then when they discover they see all the 50hz ranked players and get interested and curious about it. That is why they decide to play 50hz if they have the possibility. Then after a while the pr's are flying and the motivation to get back in 60hz is hard! Plus the fact that it is less fun to drive for a 60hz-pr with knowing you already beat it or you will beat it in 50hz sooner or later .. Well, that is how I think about it and honestly I think all ''switchers'' know where I am talking about!!!
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Reply #86 - 06/11/10 at 12:17:48
 
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My unbiased opinion:
It seems like it should be set up just like SMK has it. Two totally separate charts. Everyone keeps comparing the two and explaining how different things make one easier or harder than the other. In the end, you still have two different things, so you shouldn't be trying to make them seem like they are equal with a chart labelled "Combined".

My personal opinion:
I don't play this game so I can't speak about difficult MTs and that sort of thing, but I've seen videos of MK64 in PAL and I can say that they make the game look super boring. I know I wouldn't have much fun in the game if it was slowed down. I saw that Sonic video up there and that was just ridiculous. The problem is that this site is centered around competition as much as it is fun, so being ahead of someone is sought after just as much as having fun playing the game is. I know I would have more fun playing in a faster speed, but I wouldn't complete the competition side of it.

Take those for what you will, I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinions with words from a guy who doesn't play this game.
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Reply #87 - 06/11/10 at 13:55:21
 
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It seems like it should be set up just like SMK has it. Two totally separate charts.

There is a difference though. SMK PAL and NTSC are different in more than just the game speeds as far as I know.
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Reply #88 - 06/11/10 at 15:12:59
 
Yeah, in SMK the gameplay is faster, but the clock is normal speed. Means, NTSC is faster, no doubt about it. The difference to MKDD is that the clock is slower in 50 Hz, to avoid that problem. So theoretically, all 50 Hz times are possible in 60 Hz as well.

My opinion is that it's just a game and you should have fun. Just don't care about that fuck Hz, one should play whatever one wants. No one should complain about it, MKDD has 3 charts so you could just look at the chart that is important for you or you go with combined.  Cheesy
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Reply #89 - 06/12/10 at 00:22:22
 
someone here noticed that the complete 50hz 60hz stuff became so a big thing just about all the 60hz players who aren't avaiable to play 50hz? i think it's not longer neccessary to talk about it. just ignore the following posts here.
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