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Reply #375 - 12/24/09 at 14:21:34
 
K, back from shopping and have a little time before family stuff at 6.  Brett's statement seems believable to me. While it probably wont help if we lynch a mafia today however because now they will know you are a role-blocker and just kill you.  In your defense, you were and are taking a big risk in doing that because if any of us are that role and calls your bluff, then you and that person will be immediately be suspicious of being mafia.  In good faith I've put myself out there as well. This might be a helpful strategy at this point in the game because if one of mafia slips up that increases our odds of pulling in a mafia lynch.

It is also imperative that Dave speaks up today because we really need his vote if hes not mafia. If hes a mafia then he's played a perfect game because I have nothing to accuse him with by not saying a damn thing and if hes town he's killing our chances of getting this right. I dont want to waste a vote towards him as of yet unless there is just an overwhelming suspicion from everyone else.  He hasnt added anything to the game, so I have nothing to go on.

That being said, I assume Matt will show his face soon enough, Joe has made statements today already, Sean and Tim I'd like to hear from you.  I'd also like to hear from Tyler why Dave?

Since Christophe didnt vote yesterday, but has been active in the game, I'm gonna put a vote towards you to at least get an explanation.

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Reply #376 - 12/24/09 at 14:22:52
 
Town vigilantes are on form this game  Smiley
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Reply #377 - 12/24/09 at 14:35:08
 
So now we got two votes toward Dave. I'm gonna leave my vote on Christophe for now, but I'm willing to bandwagon on this one if everyone else feels this way. If he ends up being town then I blame him for us losing this game. Seriously, why sign up if you're not gonna play?

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Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day
Reply #378 - 12/24/09 at 14:35:27
 
I know the mafia will most likely kill me overnight because they know I have a decent town role, unlike those that are TOWN Vanillas. That's the only reason I took a risk like that. Another problem I noticed is that I put out potential roles for others to claim. If anyone else claims Saria, they are lying. I had to take a risk with revealing myself for the benefit of the town. If a mafia dies today because of it then my goal in this game was accomplished. I didn't take this risk earlier because I would probably be killed at night earlier. I figured I might have to post my role on Day 3 because I was high on the suspect lists of several people, but Tom already had the votes on him so I could get away with it for another night.

Tom was a complete waste. He had a good role and fucked up by not posting hardly anything. Why are a lot of the towns people playing badly? AHowes, Tom, and possibly Dave Smith?

Christophe:  You've been quiet practically all game, and when you would post, you would either follow the voting bandwagon, or post something that really doesn't help the town. I am assuming that you are TOWN Vanilla, because it would be somewhat fitting for you to be that role due to your inexperience and the way you have posted so far. You are on my suspect list but not at the very top.

I don't think voting for Dave Smith is the right choice, remember that if he IS town we will have about a 99% chance of losing the game, and it is impossible to really know if he is town or mafia, he has posted next to nothing. If he is mafia then he is useless as well, so lynching him if he is mafia will only make their number dwindle, but won't affect their strategy as they still have 2 or 3 active mafias, and Dave wasn't exactly active.

I know this sounds very very suspicious, but if Dave continues to get more votes I will vote for him, but I don't think he is the right choice. If he is mafia though I don't know if I will last to the end of this game because of that statement.
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Reply #379 - 12/24/09 at 14:43:27
 
Brett, while you're not really on my suspicious list because of what you did, realize that
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If he is mafia then he is useless as well
when speaking about Dave is completely untrue. For instance, he could have been the one responsible for the extra killing or the messing up of the speech we've seen each night. He's obviously survived just fine thus far Following true to his worthlessness this whole game on the forums, he would keep to that because if he spoke now he would be immediately suspicious.

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Reply #380 - 12/24/09 at 14:45:16
 
Yeah I guess I never thought of that, he could be silent on the forums but make all the night kills? Crazy strategy but it might have worked thus far!
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Reply #382 - 12/24/09 at 16:57:40
 
Holy Fuck! Allow it, I don't know about Dave but Tim its your time son, enough of this bs, you're mafia I know it.

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Reply #383 - 12/24/09 at 17:03:00
 
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Reply #384 - 12/24/09 at 17:04:36
 
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Reply #385 - 12/24/09 at 18:12:48
 
Never got around to posting this over the last couple days, but good game so far. Also this should reset the mafia.cgi tool, however, it won't have the 4 votes that have been cast already.
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Reply #386 - 12/24/09 at 18:47:43
 
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Reply #387 - 12/24/09 at 19:34:00
 
Vote: Dave Smith

At this point, if you don't speak, you're better off dead...
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Reply #388 - 12/24/09 at 19:44:42
 
Well that's three for Dave I think. Seems to be the consensus.  I hope were right on this, but you all know my stance on Dave.  Dave you are completely responsible for us losing if you are town because if you are you could have changed this.

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Reply #389 - 12/24/09 at 19:48:22
 
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Reply #390 - 12/24/09 at 20:11:23
 
that makes 5, Daves dead and btw town...















































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Reply #391 - 12/24/09 at 20:14:45
 


And I wanna give a shout-out to my boy Adam L who deserves mentioning for his part in this. Thank you for doubting my mafia abilities and making it that much easier

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Reply #392 - 12/24/09 at 23:10:07
 
If it takes a  non-playing member who noone trusts to call you out on being a bad mafia player for you to win, you're a bad mafia player?  Idk, I don't think so.  We'll have to see the night actions before we start handing out commendations for not sucking.  tbh you gave yourself away earlier in this day but I had no idea who the other maf were.
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Reply #393 - 12/24/09 at 23:11:13
 
Dave Smith has been lynched.  He was Link, TOWN Jack of All Trades

GAME OVER MAFIA WINS

first off, i'd like to thank everyone who actually participated in the game.  this was my first game hosting, so i hope you all enjoyed it.

so the game itself....  my god, it was fun to watch.  town REALLY got fucked over for a couple of reasons, the main one being that good players (they're good IMO) played really badly (howes) or just didnt play at all (tom).  combine that with nearly the entire mafia being active the whole game plus some amazing luck with night actions and this game was in the mafia's hands from the very beginning.

ROLES - TOWN

Link, Jack of All Trades - had a Protect, Scan and a Kill ability.  he could use one each during the course of the game.

Zelda, Scanner - pick one person during the night and find out whether they are town or mafia.

Darunia, Body Guard - pick one person during the night to have not be affected by any night actions whatsoever (strong man kill overrode this ability)

Ruto, Mason - one of two that i picked.  they were allowed to converse with each other outside of the topic here:  zeldamason.proboards.com

Saria, Role Blocker - pick one person during the night.  if that person tries to perform a night action, that action will fail.

Impa, Tracker - pick one person to follow during the night.  if that person performs a night action, you will know what it was and who that night action was directed towards.

Nabooru, Miller - no special abilities, but will show up guilty if scanned by the scanner/jack.

Rauru, Mason - the other mason.  same as Ruto.

Hylian/Kokiri/Zora/Goron, Vanilla - no special abilities or characteristics.

ROLES - MAFIA     zeldamafia.proboards.com

Ganondorf, Strong Man - allowed to make 3 unstoppable kills, one per night.  this kill is in addition to the regular mafia kill.

Koume, Silencer - pick one person during the night.  that person will be unable to make any posts during the course of the next day.

Kotake, Brain Washer - pick one person during the night.  that person will only be able to say certain things during the course of the next day (all phrases picked by myself)

Shadow Link, Infiltrator - mafia disguised as a town mason.  was allowed access to both the masons' board and the mafia board.  would appear as a townie if scanned.

Iron Knuckle, Role Blocker - prevent one person each night from performing a night action.  same as town role blocker, just on the side of the mafia.
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Reply #394 - 12/24/09 at 23:20:31
 
Probably not my best game that I've played, but I had it pretty easy considering my role. I didn't have to do much to gain the trust from the town, so once that was established, I pretty much said all I had to say in order to keep my name clean. I defended myself fairly well, and heat was never really put onto me. I never pushed for a lynch for anyone besides Dave for being inactive, but that wasn't until the game was pretty much in the mafia's hands...

Good game, mafia. It was a pretty cool game to play with the role that I had.

And Clay, you are a conspiracy theorist through and through. If you sent me one more PM asking me about what roles the town could possibly play, I was gonna snap. I know it was your first game and all, but c'mon man, if a townie knew ALL of the mafia members, the game would have been over on Day 2 at the latest. Take it easy, duder... Tongue
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Reply #395 - 12/24/09 at 23:28:05
 
That's cuz I wasn't here to put the heat on you Joe. I knew you were mafia from day 2 onward  Smiley
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Reply #396 - 12/24/09 at 23:37:30
 
this post is just gonna be a rambling of my own thoughts on the game, so bear with me if you get lost in my own thoughts.

i cant get all the night actions up yet cuz i'm missing a page, but i'll get them up hopefully sometime in the next 12 hours (i started Day 3 from my girlfriend's house, and i took the page i wrote them all down on over there with me and then left it there).

ok.  i think the teams looked fairly balanced on paper, maybe favoring the mafia a little bit due to the Infiltrator role, but overall it looked good.  and then i started assigning roles with a random number generator, and a few people ended up with roles that made me think about re-assigning them... most notably, Joe ending up with the Infiltrator role made me really re-think the role assignments.  however, i decided to just let it play in the end (obviously).

props to both Brett and Clay, who were both rookies and actually were active most of the game.  i think Clay in particular played very well.  on the other hand though, i (and apparently some of the other mafia members) got an INSANE amount of PMs on the board from Clay about all these conspiracy theories that could be happening.  you'll see the amount of posts he has on the mafia board too, it was ridiculous how in to the game he was.  i was very glad to see that enthusiasm, but damn, he was obsessed.

what the fuck at people who are usually more active in these games (tom, dave) not hardly posting at all.

i was surprised at the goose lynch on the first day, and i was very surprised at the way howes played on day 2.

town not only had to deal with inactive people but had some VERY bad luck with the night actions.  brett had one good role block on night 2 that prevented the mafia from getting two kills twice in a row, but that was about it.  tom scanned clay on night 2, but then got brain washed so couldnt tell anyone about it, and then got lynched, so that was out.  jamie kept tracking townies, kmacc got role blocked by tyler in key protection moments, and the masons didnt hardly utilize their board at all.

arguably the most powerful role in the game was the Infiltrator.  if it had landed in any one else's hands, i'm wondering if the game would've turned out the same way it did.  joe was absolutely incredulous when i told him that he just happened to be the one to get that role over everyone else.  MVT and Tim were good mason picks, and i think it would've been VERY fun to watch those 3 try and discuss things not knowing that Joe was actually mafia.  this is one of the roles where i think that if someone else had it, we might have had an extremely different game.

role ideas for this mafia game all came from characters in Zelda: Ocarina of Time.  i used each of the six Sages, Princess Zelda and Link, and then 4 out of 5 of the major races were vanillas (I left out Gerudos).  Rauru and Ruto as masons and Saria as a role blocker were random choices.  Impa is a Sheikah, and they're known as the shadow race, so it made sense to have her as a watcher role.  Nabooru, while not a baddie in the game, had been brain washed by baddies, so thats where the miller inspiration came from.  and Darunia, Big Boss of the Gorons, seemed a definitely obvious choice for Body Guard.  i had some other role ideas (King Zora for TOWN Mayor, e.g.), but in the end i left most of those out.

mafia roles were pretty quick choices too.  originally i didnt have a role blocker for mafia, but i put one in on a suggestion from robin.  other than that, not much to say about the mafia roles.  just to make sure i know i said it, i LOVED my brain washer role idea, and had a lot of fun coming up with the different things people could say.  i wanted to use more LOLCat sayings, but i didnt wanna beat it into the ground.  for anyone that was curious, Matt V was brain washed for Day 4 and i gave him all lines from Fight Club to say.

i also wonder how it would've worked had mafia members actually had to role claim.  the vanilla roles i picked were all just plain members of the various races in zelda games, but the safe claims i left for the mafia to use were specific people in game.  so i dont know how that would've worked, and once again, maybe it could've turned the tide had a vanilla picked up on that.

monster post, so i'm sorry for the tl;dr but props once again if you made it all the way thru.  like i said, night actions up ASAP.

thanks again to everyone that played!  it was a good time.  Smiley
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Reply #397 - 12/24/09 at 23:38:24
 
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I win yet again.

Why did mafia win?

Well I get voted out first every game (because I am too much of a threat to keep around.)  I just happened to be mafia this game so what did I do?  I posted for the first day pretty much saying nothing about anyone but myself.  The mafia were wise enough not to buy it and alas I planted several red herrings among the townsfolk.  As a result this caused an internal war between the townies which ultimately lead to their downfall.

Not taking the whole credit, but a well deserved 1/5th of the credit.  The other mafia guys were pretty kick ass too.
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Reply #398 - 12/25/09 at 00:01:30
 
no because you were (and still are) a cunt.
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Reply #399 - 12/25/09 at 00:09:55
 
Goose, you got voted out the first day via your own incompetence, therefore contributing nothing as a mafia player basically the whole game. Your only accomplishment was failing to prevent the mafia win.

Good job to mafia, btw. Wish I could've contributed more, seems I can't last more than a day as townie in these games.
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