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WOW WOW WOW place your bets please!!! new WR (Read 1253 times)
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Reply #25 - 12/12/09 at 12:16:55
 
I believe all of Jorge's times considering his very high skill level in mkwii.
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Reply #26 - 12/12/09 at 15:25:13
 
How can people say this dude is not legit?  I asked him if he could play for a little bit to see what he could get and he came up with this:

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Reply #27 - 12/12/09 at 15:31:28
 
Shocked i dont doubt him anymore!!
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Reply #28 - 12/12/09 at 15:45:52
 
It's his identity that is the problem, not the times themselves. The times are obviously real.
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Reply #29 - 12/12/09 at 19:16:32
 
I don't even see how his identity is a problem. People call him Jorge when i saw his WR on Rainbow Road Wii. Obvoiusly hes real and his times are obviously legit.

Hes also one of the few people who could actually take MJ Tongue
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Reply #30 - 12/12/09 at 19:42:00
 
It's a long story, basically he just showed up out of nowhere with all GOD times and he was like 3 in the world, and had a few WR's.

The MK64 site has had identity problems in the past, so when someone shows up out of nowhere and drives WR times nearly on their first try, we are bound to get a little uneasy about it.

That's the whole reason you know who I am today, my plan was to keep improving my times and show up with all GODS, but when I saw this happen, I posted all my times on the 2009 site as Elites or whatever.
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Reply #31 - 12/13/09 at 01:02:54
 
Jorge also did this the year before he joined (joined the 2008 site), but under a different name, and then inexplicably denied that he'd done it.

We never would have doubted you Brett!  Grin
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Btw, the reason Jorge is not on the site, is because of Jorge. He point-blank refused to cooperate/reply to the proof mods requests.  Sad
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Reply #32 - 12/13/09 at 03:14:26
 
I joined king overall lol.

Just like my friend for SMK, Years ago he tried to join the SMK site, this was when NBT was not known, he basically had all the WR's beat.... lol. So i remember trying to send in his times but they were never submitted or anything. But nowadays he would be barely in top 100.
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Reply #33 - 12/13/09 at 03:47:44
 
Not again Tongue

Biggest problem for me , when you know something is wrong, is next. Jorge was the nicest kid here on the MB (same as Karina Grin) but just as he was discovered he made a vid in which he said some very bad things about Jeff G. Now what was the purpose of that Wink.
Also saying that Lacey doesn´t think he is legit but Lacey never heard of him before that. So that nice kid lying and insulting people for some reason. You do that when you want to deceive or hide something. On the other side he is really nice here on the MB after some rough attacks.
So he comes in with insults and accusing people and then ,out of nowhere, he handles some bad attack on him like a few grown people can handle and no 13 year old. Think again why would someone do that, something is wrong here right away.
Times are real and should be on the site but the problem is next. We had 4-5 fake players in the past. 1 person is behind all of them maybe 2. Now imagine MJ makes 4-5 fake identities. Yeah we would have some great battles here but we would watch a 1 man show. The rankings would be useless then and the site would be destroyed.
Look at 2009 site, someone is making multiple fake accounts. There is obviusly a person in MK64 world who does that and he is a great karter (Karina and JFM had top 5 potencial IMO) but we must not let him destroy the main site.

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Reply #34 - 12/13/09 at 04:14:41
 
I wouldnt blame him for saying bad stuff about Jeff G. When i first joined the MK64 website he said i was a terrible player and etc Which of course is true compared to him...but still top players should at least have sort of manners.

When it comes to being at the top and the best in the world i deff have been there and done that.
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Reply #35 - 12/13/09 at 04:16:35
 
"Jorge" had the opportunity to prove himself by playing in person in front of a trusted gamer, and he declined.

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Reply #36 - 12/13/09 at 04:19:20
 
Jorge said he was replying to the proof mods, but then his parents went into his room and deleted the email. Asked if he'd *ever* reply to them, he said no.
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Reply #37 - 12/13/09 at 04:21:33
 
That sucks that he declined.

Have you seen his two WR's in MKW? hes quite amazing at that game aswell.
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Reply #38 - 12/13/09 at 04:29:26
 
Yeah, if he had joined mk64 after being respected in mkwii like he is now, people probably wouldn't have been suspicious. That TT vid is  Shocked though. It's like he gets instant MTs from white to red.
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Reply #39 - 12/13/09 at 04:34:36
 
JeffTehRaD wrote on 12/13/09 at 04:14:41:
I wouldnt blame him for saying bad stuff about Jeff G. When i first joined the MK64 website he said i was a terrible player and etc Which of course is true compared to him...but still top players should at least have sort of manners.


He made a vid  showing himself  talking about how Jeff is a fag. Saying to someone he is a terrible player is nothing compared to this.


shadow wrote on 12/13/09 at 04:29:26:
It's like he gets instant MTs from white to red.


NTSC replays Tongue, yeah he is fast.

What Finn said should be enough to end this discussion.

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Reply #40 - 12/13/09 at 05:29:25
 
"He made a vid  showing himself  talking about how Jeff is a fag. Saying to someone he is a terrible player is nothing compared to this"

Yeah it doesnt compare but its the whole principle of things.

Making a video though is going quite far.. lol
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Reply #41 - 12/13/09 at 07:07:36
 
It's just a shame that there will be times ad videos out that are faster than some of the "WR's".
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Reply #42 - 12/13/09 at 09:31:52
 
I'm not sure he has any of his mk64 wrs on vid.
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Reply #43 - 12/13/09 at 10:25:09
 
What I don't understand is if his identity is the problem why can't you just put the times on the page as Person X or something? Real times are real times.

And yes, Brett is my real name. Worst case scenario I can show you my school ID or something.  Grin
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Reply #44 - 12/13/09 at 13:07:30
 
shadow wrote on 12/13/09 at 09:31:52:
I'm not sure he has any of his mk64 wrs on vid.


i couldnt find any claimed WR runs...


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Reply #45 - 12/13/09 at 14:36:22
 
Jorge did show us his school ID. I guess it's just strange someone who is so good would wait that long to send us vids. He also claims he had all his records on video but lost them or something.
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Reply #46 - 12/13/09 at 16:43:52
 
I pm'ed Vaj what he thought on the matter, and he replied...

"Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Shocked"

Quite conclusive imo. I shall liken my view to that of Vaj.
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Reply #47 - 12/14/09 at 10:52:03
 
Brett wrote on 12/13/09 at 10:25:09:
What I don't understand is if his identity is the problem why can't you just put the times on the page as Person X or something? Real times are real times.



that would be opening up a can of worms. how many nameless times might clutter up the pages? how to decide which times to allow and which not?
    even not considering consequences like that, I think it's a sound principle that we only allow times driven by identified persons.

and are those times real? I admit the vids look convincing, but I know precious little about which ways there are to fake vids.

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Reply #48 - 12/14/09 at 11:58:16
 
is there a concern that it could be like the Habrich episode?
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Reply #49 - 12/14/09 at 12:32:38
 
Zarkov wrote on 12/13/09 at 16:43:52:
I pm'ed Vaj what he thought on the matter, and he replied...

"Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Shocked"

Quite conclusive imo. I shall liken my view to that of Vaj.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Shocked

Anyway, at the moment the whole situation just annoys me. It should have been handled better on both sides at the time. There are no burnt bridges here though. Jorge should still make vids if he makes new times like he has been doing.
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