=★inspire♪ wrote on 11/19/15 at 16:52:09: 
Winbag4 wrote on 11/19/15 at 14:45:25:BlazeMSX wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:21:49:If someone playing a glitch category, reaching WW tops is enough proof to merit a TAS accusation, why don't we put everyone on the ban list? Nobody can be trusted anymore with this logic.
That's not it at all, Blaze. For example, I know people like Inspire and Arrow are legit because they have both shown tons of progression. But I just learned about Justin a couple weeks ago and he has 57 already, not to mention that in his videos he has two different top 5's.
That's the difference between suspicious and obviously legit.
You are right Hunter. Me and Arrow have shown many continuous improvements and played this course a substantial amount of time. I first started TT'ing MC the day after Guy's 53.592 run. I talked to Justin about his run the day he uploaded it. He said he got his 57.847 run only 10 minuets after I got my 57.649. Also after I questioned him after saying that he got his 59 run in a day of TT'ing, he told me that was his old description and changed it to a month which is still a fairly short amount of time to get a run like this. Check it out as the discussion was in the comments of his 59 run. I'm not calling it suspicious but it is something to point out. I don't know if both runs were just luck based or all skill but considering his last run was a 1:06, it seems kind of strange. Although, since he used the strat I discovered (calling it the ＝★inspire♪ Strat btw), I can see it where it could possible because my strat is way less luck based than the regular left side no stop. I personally find it about 10x easier. With practice, it can easily be mastered. To do it, it's as simple as drifting in between the 2 shadows and aligning your bike like you would for the regular stop right side glitch. Alignment is easy but the hard just hard to get the timing of the drift just right. I think we should watch his progress though. I find it sort of unusual (not suspicious) for someone who has only been in the community for only a month. But who knows? His case could be like Fox's. He might be able to improve hard to beat times easily and incredibly fast but may also posess the skill and talent to do so.
In all honesty, this.
The glitch method used in the run is extremely underused and quite easy to do. Justin just used a very easy, fast strategy to achieve this. WAY easier than the regular no-stop on the left side, and note how I didn't say "luckier".
The suspicion of Nim's times isn't even in the same ballpark as Justin's whatsoever imo. Could Justin have gotten this time after a month of grinding this strategy? Absolutely. Anyone who knows this glitch could tell you that. Plus, he at least had an improvement before this, showing a 59.636 the day before he uploaded his 57. Yeah, it's fast, and suspicious, which is exactly why we need to make ground rules about situations like this.
If people really think you're suspicious, wouldn't you be
more than happy to prove yourself? When Justin was asked to prove himself, he was immediately asking how he could do so. With certain others it hasn't been quite as successful...
http://prntscr.com/94r5g8 http://prntscr.com/94r4q6We need to make harsher rules or else this community will see more and more "highly suspicious" and "highly questionable" players without having any kind of proof forever. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we need everyone with a time to do Totom protocol to whoever gets a regional. But when someone is so suspicious that
a. They go from not having a time on ww tops to getting a world record
b. They use strategies never been consistently done by anyone else multiple times in multiple runs within weeks of each other
c. When asked to prove themself, they decline multiple times
...why can't anything be done about this? Well simply put, people who are "in charge" don't seem to care about the legitimacy of certain glitch times at all, because to them it's just a glitch, something they don't play or it doesn't concern them so why bother getting involved with it in the first place? Please, jump in and prove me wrong, but this has blatantly been the case from what I've seen. When there is this much evidence against someone, they should be put on the pending players list until they prove themself by at least streaming or recording some attempts against a ghost, ANYTHING. If you have the means of recording, then you can stream attempts or at the very least record attempts. Otherwise, you're just gonna have people come along and say "Oh wow, it's THAT easy to cheat and make it on the charts? Sweet I'll just say I'm not interested when people ask for proof."
And to clarify, no, I want something like this to go for any times, not just glitches. Please consider this.
Spot on.
Also I was unaware that Justin was making attempts to prove himself. That's great! Just making an attempt goes a long way, and I'd say that that means he's legit.
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