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Re: Changes in the World Wide/Continental Top 10s
Reply #6300 - 11/16/15 at 09:55:01
 
2:04.714 rSL - 2nd European + 5th worldwide

Lap 1: 41.511
Lap 2: 41.569
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Reply #6301 - 11/16/15 at 19:15:38
 
Mario Circuit (Glitch): 59.683 by myself  Smiley (8th worldwide/ 4th American btw)
Link to video: http://youtu.be/yZ-yG32eVeQ

Glad I finally improved my old 59.927 run with only one no stop this time Cheesy I can't describe how happy I am right now! Cheesy Lap 1 was sort of slow for my potential. It was slower than my lap 1 in my 59.927 run. Laps 2 and 3 saved the run. (Also new strat. No high glitches xD) Not much else to say as the run speaks for itself Cheesy
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kfitz16 wrote on 11/19/15 at 03:06:03:
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.


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Reply #6302 - 11/16/15 at 21:00:54
 
MC glitch 59.636 by me (8th Worldwide, 4th American)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnG8cwJ2ClA

It used to be 7th Worldwide and 3rd American, but inspire just got 4th Worldwide right before I posted this (ggs on sub  Smiley)

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Reply #6303 - 11/16/15 at 22:13:29
 
Mario Circuit (Glitch): 57.649 (4th Worldwide/ 2nd American) by =★inspire♪ (Myself) Smiley
Link to run: https://youtu.be/Xy2SM57hFeQ

About the run: It is an amazing 2 second improvement from my former PR of 59.683 that I got today. Cheesy Not to mention, it's a very strong run. I got a 2/2 no stop glitch run (the same no stop strat that I used in my 59.927 run) which gave me this very beautiful time Cheesy Read more about how the run went down in the description of my video if you want Grin

Best splits give 56.8xx Cheesy
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kfitz16 wrote on 11/19/15 at 03:06:03:
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.


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Re: Changes in the World Wide/Continental Top 10s
Reply #6304 - 11/17/15 at 12:16:24
 
2:04.668 rSL - 2nd European + 5th worldwide (still)

Lap 1: 41.492
Lap 2: 41.663
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Reply #6305 - 11/17/15 at 14:05:02
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTNVSxgPr_8&feature=youtu.be
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Luke B wrote on 03/30/16 at 06:59:51:
if you want to convince anyone except maybe your mother we require this thing called proof not "i wont hack im not like nim"
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Reply #6306 - 11/17/15 at 19:25:16
 
Mario Circuit - 57.847 by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8O7ZhBw55E

Woah, another one in a short amount of time huh? Well guess what? I just got this time in 10 minutes Shocked

Probably the most luckiest run I ever had. Didn't even expect a 2/3 no-stop glitch run in a short amount of time  Grin
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Reply #6307 - 11/18/15 at 05:09:08
 
Justin, wrote on 11/17/15 at 19:25:16:
Mario Circuit - 57.847 by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8O7ZhBw55E

well, I probaly think the community will consedering this run as legit not like they do for Nim on rPB. Seriously, if you consering this run as legit, and not Nim rPB WR or even Jeff runs, so I dont even understand your logic anymore...
I'm not totally saying that you TASed Justin, just want to say that's you progression is a bit strange in my opinion. You just came out of now where, with only a week of playing the track and only few improvement and you get 1 minute sub plus a 57"xxx time wich is good, so that's just weird for me. I'm just saying that, if you want to count him then no problem eccept if you dont counth Jeff or Nim because that's make no logic then.

Well, if you dont understand what I want to mean, this a very brief version:
You accuse Nim and Jeff for evolute to fast and then dont count(or even partially count) them
Justin evlolute very very fast on MC but for you, no suspicious, it's legit.
Then, where is you logic?
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Luke B wrote on 03/30/16 at 06:59:51:
if you want to convince anyone except maybe your mother we require this thing called proof not "i wont hack im not like nim"
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Reply #6308 - 11/18/15 at 20:17:49
 
Just drop it, Estaloy. Even if he is cheating, nothing's going to be done about it. No one cares about glitches.
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Reply #6309 - 11/18/15 at 23:35:19
 
The thing is; there haven't been any concrete evidence regarding Justin. I am not sure about his past or improvement rate at all, I'll say that much. He might have had potential for a long time, but always failed the last glitch or something like that.

However, with Nim, it's suspicious how quickly he did such a hard glitch 6 times(all his 3 wrs on the site) and as soon as he is asked for proof? Sells his game and vanishes.

Got nothing against you Estaloy, just my personal opinion. I'm not calling cheats on Nim yet, but the behavior is making the whole situation questionable to say the least. But it might've been a coincidence, that he just lost interest in the game at the time and sold it.
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Reply #6310 - 11/19/15 at 03:06:03
 
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.
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Reply #6311 - 11/19/15 at 05:01:31
 
kfitz16 wrote on 11/19/15 at 03:06:03:
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.


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Reply #6312 - 11/19/15 at 05:28:02
 
kfitz16 wrote on 11/19/15 at 03:06:03:
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.



NOBUO would still beat all of us through. Sad
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Reply #6313 - 11/19/15 at 09:00:55
 
Listen everyone. I've talked to Justin. He told me he would be willing to show proof if he knew how. He said he would take any requests. What do all you recommend he do?
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kfitz16 wrote on 11/19/15 at 03:06:03:
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.


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Reply #6314 - 11/19/15 at 10:21:49
 
Estaloy wrote on 11/18/15 at 05:09:08:
Justin, wrote on 11/17/15 at 19:25:16:
Mario Circuit - 57.847 by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8O7ZhBw55E

well, I probaly think the community will consedering this run as legit not like they do for Nim on rPB. Seriously, if you consering this run as legit, and not Nim rPB WR or even Jeff runs, so I dont even understand your logic anymore...
I'm not totally saying that you TASed Justin, just want to say that's you progression is a bit strange in my opinion. You just came out of now where, with only a week of playing the track and only few improvement and you get 1 minute sub plus a 57"xxx time wich is good, so that's just weird for me. I'm just saying that, if you want to count him then no problem eccept if you dont counth Jeff or Nim because that's make no logic then.

Well, if you dont understand what I want to mean, this a very brief version:
You accuse Nim and Jeff for evolute to fast and then dont count(or even partially count) them
Justin evlolute very very fast on MC but for you, no suspicious, it's legit.
Then, where is you logic?


If someone playing a glitch category, reaching WW tops is enough proof to merit a TAS accusation, why don't we put everyone on the ban list? Nobody can be trusted anymore with this logic.
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Reply #6315 - 11/19/15 at 12:09:56
 
BlazeMSX wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:21:49:
Estaloy wrote on 11/18/15 at 05:09:08:
Justin, wrote on 11/17/15 at 19:25:16:
Mario Circuit - 57.847 by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8O7ZhBw55E

well, I probaly think the community will consedering this run as legit not like they do for Nim on rPB. Seriously, if you consering this run as legit, and not Nim rPB WR or even Jeff runs, so I dont even understand your logic anymore...
I'm not totally saying that you TASed Justin, just want to say that's you progression is a bit strange in my opinion. You just came out of now where, with only a week of playing the track and only few improvement and you get 1 minute sub plus a 57"xxx time wich is good, so that's just weird for me. I'm just saying that, if you want to count him then no problem eccept if you dont counth Jeff or Nim because that's make no logic then.

Well, if you dont understand what I want to mean, this a very brief version:
You accuse Nim and Jeff for evolute to fast and then dont count(or even partially count) them
Justin evlolute very very fast on MC but for you, no suspicious, it's legit.
Then, where is you logic?


If someone playing a glitch category, reaching WW tops is enough proof to merit a TAS accusation, why don't we put everyone on the ban list? Nobody can be trusted anymore with this logic.

Well, the point of my message is that's stupid to ban Jeff and Nim if you count Justin which, evolute very very fast on MC. I'm not to accusing Justin of TASes, I'm just showing the PP isn't logic at all.


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Luke B wrote on 03/30/16 at 06:59:51:
if you want to convince anyone except maybe your mother we require this thing called proof not "i wont hack im not like nim"
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Reply #6316 - 11/19/15 at 12:58:27
 
Estaloy wrote on 11/19/15 at 12:09:56:
I'm not to accusing Justin of TASes


Yes you are. Otherwise you wouldn't have made the posts you did.

Nim is still considered legit btw.


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Reply #6317 - 11/19/15 at 13:05:42
 
40pegh wrote on 11/19/15 at 12:58:27:
Estaloy wrote on 11/19/15 at 12:09:56:
I'm not to accusing Justin of TASes


Yes you are. Otherwise you wouldn't have made the posts you did.



think what you want, but if you read the very end of the message I most talking about the situation of Nim and Jeff, and I'm compared them progression to Justin because Nim and Jeff is suspected and not Justin.
If you still think that I accusing Justin to tas, then think what you want but I know he have got that 57"8xx and GGs to him for get it that easy. I can understand that people can progess very fastly on a track if they are lucky or just get a very interesing potentiel. Just like Nim and Jeff.
I'm mostly accusing the community for banned certain player and not other certain player, which they have all the same situation.
I know, I could be a bit unclear, and I dont want any special proof from Justin, so now, I wont to continue debating about Justin legitmacy because obviously there is any proof that he tasing. (just like Nim and Jeff again btw)
But well, I wont really to debat, I'm just saying my opinion, if you think I'm wrong, then good to you! and if you think I'm right, then good to you to!
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Luke B wrote on 03/30/16 at 06:59:51:
if you want to convince anyone except maybe your mother we require this thing called proof not "i wont hack im not like nim"
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Reply #6318 - 11/19/15 at 13:16:52
 
Speed Demon wrote on 11/19/15 at 05:01:31:
kfitz16 wrote on 11/19/15 at 03:06:03:
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.


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Reply #6319 - 11/19/15 at 14:45:25
 
BlazeMSX wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:21:49:
If someone playing a glitch category, reaching WW tops is enough proof to merit a TAS accusation, why don't we put everyone on the ban list? Nobody can be trusted anymore with this logic.


That's not it at all, Blaze. For example, I know people like Inspire and Arrow are legit because they have both shown tons of progression. But I just learned about Justin a couple weeks ago and he has 57 already, not to mention that in his videos he has two different top 5's.

That's the difference between suspicious and obviously legit.
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Reply #6320 - 11/19/15 at 16:46:23
 
Estaloy wrote on 11/19/15 at 13:05:42:
I'm mostly accusing the community for banned certain player and not other certain player, which they have all the same situation.


Good luck convincing them then. That's exactly what I said when Nim first came up.
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Reply #6321 - 11/19/15 at 16:52:09
 
SmileyWinbag4 wrote on 11/19/15 at 14:45:25:
BlazeMSX wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:21:49:
If someone playing a glitch category, reaching WW tops is enough proof to merit a TAS accusation, why don't we put everyone on the ban list? Nobody can be trusted anymore with this logic.


That's not it at all, Blaze. For example, I know people like Inspire and Arrow are legit because they have both shown tons of progression. But I just learned about Justin a couple weeks ago and he has 57 already, not to mention that in his videos he has two different top 5's.

That's the difference between suspicious and obviously legit.


You are right Hunter. Me and Arrow have shown many continuous improvements and played this course a substantial amount of time. I first started TT'ing MC the day after Guy's 53.592 run. I talked to Justin about his run the day he uploaded it. He said he got his 57.847 run only 10 minuets after I got my 57.649. Also after I questioned him after saying that he got his 59 run in a day of TT'ing, he told me that was his old description and changed it to a month which is still a fairly short amount of time to get a run like this. Check it out as the discussion was in the comments of his 59 run. I'm not calling it suspicious but it is something to point out. I don't know if both runs were just luck based or all skill but considering his last run was a 1:06, it seems kind of strange. Although, since he used the strat I discovered (calling it the =★inspire♪ Strat btw), I can see it where it could possible because my strat is way less luck based than the regular left side no stop. I personally find it about 10x easier. With practice, it can easily be mastered. To do it, it's as simple as drifting in between the 2 shadows and aligning your bike like you would for the regular stop right side glitch. Alignment is easy but the hard just hard to get the timing of the drift just right. I think we should watch his progress though. I find it sort of unusual (not suspicious) for someone who has only been in the community for only a month. But who knows? His case could be like Fox's. He might be able to improve hard to beat times easily and incredibly fast but may also posess the skill and talent to do so.  Grin

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kfitz16 wrote on 11/19/15 at 03:06:03:
Maybe we should all just start TASing. That would eliminate all problems.


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Reply #6322 - 11/19/15 at 17:30:14
 
=★inspire♪ wrote on 11/19/15 at 16:52:09:
SmileyWinbag4 wrote on 11/19/15 at 14:45:25:
BlazeMSX wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:21:49:
If someone playing a glitch category, reaching WW tops is enough proof to merit a TAS accusation, why don't we put everyone on the ban list? Nobody can be trusted anymore with this logic.


That's not it at all, Blaze. For example, I know people like Inspire and Arrow are legit because they have both shown tons of progression. But I just learned about Justin a couple weeks ago and he has 57 already, not to mention that in his videos he has two different top 5's.

That's the difference between suspicious and obviously legit.


You are right Hunter. Me and Arrow have shown many continuous improvements and played this course a substantial amount of time. I first started TT'ing MC the day after Guy's 53.592 run. I talked to Justin about his run the day he uploaded it. He said he got his 57.847 run only 10 minuets after I got my 57.649. Also after I questioned him after saying that he got his 59 run in a day of TT'ing, he told me that was his old description and changed it to a month which is still a fairly short amount of time to get a run like this. Check it out as the discussion was in the comments of his 59 run. I'm not calling it suspicious but it is something to point out. I don't know if both runs were just luck based or all skill but considering his last run was a 1:06, it seems kind of strange. Although, since he used the strat I discovered (calling it the =★inspire♪ Strat btw), I can see it where it could possible because my strat is way less luck based than the regular left side no stop. I personally find it about 10x easier. With practice, it can easily be mastered. To do it, it's as simple as drifting in between the 2 shadows and aligning your bike like you would for the regular stop right side glitch. Alignment is easy but the hard just hard to get the timing of the drift just right. I think we should watch his progress though. I find it sort of unusual (not suspicious) for someone who has only been in the community for only a month. But who knows? His case could be like Fox's. He might be able to improve hard to beat times easily and incredibly fast but may also posess the skill and talent to do so.  Grin


Wait, who says Fox is legit? *waits for harassment*
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Reply #6323 - 11/19/15 at 18:12:17
 
I didn't realize there was this much debate around this Justin guy. I acknowledge the fact he came from nowhere, but I just assumed he had worked his way up from out of nowhere. I hope he's legit. Also Hunter, I appreciate you saying I am a legit player, because I know honestly I could have done a lot more even to prove myself, but I do upload as much of my progress as I can, especially with glitch runs. Lately I've been bored with mkwii though, but I usually do have spells like that, and then I'm back again. Plus college lol. Anyway, it's really sad that we have to doubt everyone before believing them, but I understand... It's bittersweet when a cheater gets found out in this community. I feel great that they got rightly found out, but then I'm depressed afterwards because it happens far too often...
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Reply #6324 - 11/19/15 at 19:29:05
 
=★inspire♪ wrote on 11/19/15 at 16:52:09:
SmileyWinbag4 wrote on 11/19/15 at 14:45:25:
BlazeMSX wrote on 11/19/15 at 10:21:49:
If someone playing a glitch category, reaching WW tops is enough proof to merit a TAS accusation, why don't we put everyone on the ban list? Nobody can be trusted anymore with this logic.


That's not it at all, Blaze. For example, I know people like Inspire and Arrow are legit because they have both shown tons of progression. But I just learned about Justin a couple weeks ago and he has 57 already, not to mention that in his videos he has two different top 5's.

That's the difference between suspicious and obviously legit.


You are right Hunter. Me and Arrow have shown many continuous improvements and played this course a substantial amount of time. I first started TT'ing MC the day after Guy's 53.592 run. I talked to Justin about his run the day he uploaded it. He said he got his 57.847 run only 10 minuets after I got my 57.649. Also after I questioned him after saying that he got his 59 run in a day of TT'ing, he told me that was his old description and changed it to a month which is still a fairly short amount of time to get a run like this. Check it out as the discussion was in the comments of his 59 run. I'm not calling it suspicious but it is something to point out. I don't know if both runs were just luck based or all skill but considering his last run was a 1:06, it seems kind of strange. Although, since he used the strat I discovered (calling it the =★inspire♪ Strat btw), I can see it where it could possible because my strat is way less luck based than the regular left side no stop. I personally find it about 10x easier. With practice, it can easily be mastered. To do it, it's as simple as drifting in between the 2 shadows and aligning your bike like you would for the regular stop right side glitch. Alignment is easy but the hard just hard to get the timing of the drift just right. I think we should watch his progress though. I find it sort of unusual (not suspicious) for someone who has only been in the community for only a month. But who knows? His case could be like Fox's. He might be able to improve hard to beat times easily and incredibly fast but may also posess the skill and talent to do so.  Grin



In all honesty, this.

The glitch method used in the run is extremely underused and quite easy to do. Justin just used a very easy, fast strategy to achieve this. WAY easier than the regular no-stop on the left side, and note how I didn't say "luckier".

The suspicion of Nim's times isn't even in the same ballpark as Justin's whatsoever imo. Could Justin have gotten this time after a month of grinding this strategy? Absolutely. Anyone who knows this glitch could tell you that. Plus, he at least had an improvement before this, showing a 59.636 the day before he uploaded his 57. Yeah, it's fast, and suspicious, which is exactly why we need to make ground rules about situations like this.

If people really think you're suspicious, wouldn't you be more than happy to prove yourself? When Justin was asked to prove himself, he was immediately asking how he could do so. With certain others it hasn't been quite as successful... http://prntscr.com/94r5g8 http://prntscr.com/94r4q6

We need to make harsher rules or else this community will see more and more "highly suspicious" and "highly questionable" players without having any kind of proof forever. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we need everyone with a time to do Totom protocol to whoever gets a regional. But when someone is so suspicious that

a. They go from not having a time on ww tops to getting a world record
b. They use strategies never been consistently done by anyone else multiple times in multiple runs within weeks of each other
c. When asked to prove themself, they decline multiple times

...why can't anything be done about this? Well simply put, people who are "in charge" don't seem to care about the legitimacy of certain glitch times at all, because to them it's just a glitch, something they don't play or it doesn't concern them so why bother getting involved with it in the first place? Please, jump in and prove me wrong, but this has blatantly been the case from what I've seen. When there is this much evidence against someone, they should be put on the pending players list until they prove themself by at least streaming or recording some attempts against a ghost, ANYTHING. If you have the means of recording, then you can stream attempts or at the very least record attempts. Otherwise, you're just gonna have people come along and say "Oh wow, it's THAT easy to cheat and make it on the charts? Sweet I'll just say I'm not interested when people ask for proof."

And to clarify, no, I want something like this to go for any times, not just glitches. Please consider this.
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Blackyboi wrote on 05/09/15 at 05:45:13:
best would just be there would be a remake for MKW which fixes the glitches and (is of course not as easy hacked since it would be a new game) + has HD graphics but I guess that's not gonna happen

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