The Gaff wrote on 04/08/09 at 23:01:45:


Ya, to his credit it was his first game but I was the one pulling the strings.

Someone had to show him the ropes.

Only time they got off the reigns were toward the end.  It's just a shame mafia didn't try and pick you out sooner Tom, maybe a little too zealous in wanting to die. lol

I am willing to side with the town once more.

Vote: Mafia Break

vote: mafiabreak

Goose ♥ wrote on 04/08/09 at 23:08:28:


sent gg

honko you lazy fuck

he was mafia.  blame darius!

unblame
blame: darius

booyah

Werewolves signup

Ok, so,
Ia saw that this game was over...
So as I said, I'll host the next one  
This won't be a mafia game but a werewolves game (the french equivalent of this game)  
I saw you wanted to take a short break,
So, let's start it next week. I will explain you all the roles in a few days, and so we need 20-21 players.
Who wants to play?  

Darius wrote on 04/11/09 at 01:11:10:

How's your CM flap going there Mr. Noob?

Alright, I'm awake and out of cool excuses.  Here are the roles.

Mafia
Howes/Meowth - Godfather (shows up innocent in scans by Abra and Mr. Mime)
Sportsguy/Koffing - Poisoner (poisons someone every other night, they die the following night. if they are protected on the night they get poisoned, the poison fails. on the 2nd night they could only be saved by Chansey)
EnigmaticCam/Ekans - Roleblocker
Darius/Machop - Assassin (has 1 extra kill that goes through any protection from Mr. Mime, Chansey, Hitmonchan, and/or Snorlax)
Karterfreak/Zubat - Goon (no power)

Town
Ivootjes/Mr. Mime - Jack-of-all-Trades (could protect, roleblock, and scan twice each. was allowed to protect self)
Koopz/Chansey - Healer (doctor that could also heal poison on the 2nd night)
Kmacc/Abra - Cop
Lenny/Growlithe - Tracker (targets you to see who you visited tonight)
Sword/Aerodactyl - Vigilante (could kill every other night)
Fababu/Hitmonchan - Elite Bodyguard (if someone tries to kill or poison the person he protects, he and the attacker both die instead)
Pobre/Jigglypuff - Roleblocker
Extol/Diglett - Hider (could hide with someone every night. if anyone tried to kill Diglett, they would fail, but if he hid with a mafia or if someone killed the person he hid with, he would die)
MVT/Pikachu - Recruiting Mason (tries to recruit 1 person per night. if they are town, they become a mason, if they are mafia Pikachu dies)
Goose/Lapras - Mayor (could nullify one lynch during the game, but not his own)
Syzygy/Snorlax - Bulletproof (could absorb 1 normal kill per night, immune to poison)
In Hiding/Voltorb - Bomb (kills the person who nightkills him, or the last person to vote for him if he's lynched)
Padzup/Charmander - Vanilla (no power)
Etch/Squirtle - Vanilla (no power)

Mafia also had a safelist of Bulbasaur and Onix.  They were told that nobody had those Pokemon as roles, so they could use them as claims if necessary.

Some of my random thoughts about the game.

The last second Etch bandwagon at the end of day 1 was the worst play of the game.  It looked really bad, especially after Howes was lynched anyway and it became obvious that it was an attempt to save him.  And it grouped mafia's names together easily, since Sportsguy, karterfreak, and Howes all changed their votes in those last couple minutes.  karterfreak paid the price, but I'm surprised Sportsguy was able to avoid suspicion for most of the game after being involved in that.

I thought Cam was playing a decent game but Extol and Padzup picked up a lot of small tells in his play that everyone else seemed to miss.  The masons deserve the credit they're getting for taking out Howes and Sportsguy, but Day 3 was critical for town to keep their confidence after that crazy Night 2, and so Cam's lynch was very important.

Tom, I hope you weren't trying to hide the fact that you were bomb.  Saying things like "if you lynch me, that's 2 dead townies" and "mafia please kill me and let suspicious Fab live another day" made it obvious to the mafia what you were and basically got rid of the usefulness of your role.

Extol, I agree with you that Hider isn't a very powerful role.  Its main use is to confuse the mafia (which it did, they came up with some pretty silly theories about why Darius couldn't find and kill you).  If you survive long enough, it could also probably be used as a kind of suicidal cop if you chose to reveal your role.

Mafia got lucky when Darius killed Lenny through 2 protectors.  They probably should have capitalized more on that confusion.  Getting Fababu lynched the next day should have been easy.  Good job to Etch for eventually figuring out what happened and saving Fababu.

People were too eager to claim their roles when they weren't in danger in my opinion.  Lenny didn't really need to claim Tracker, since karterfreak had plenty of evidence against him and would probably have been lynched anyway.

On the other hand, what was up with people saying "don't claim your role ever, even if you're about to get lynched, it gives mafia too much info"?  Yeah, it does give mafia info, but mafia would also get that info if the person is lynched.  Would you rather have a live cop who mafia knows is cop, or a dead cop who mafia knows is cop?  At least the live one will soak up the mafia's roleblocker or nightkill for that night.  If you're a townie and you're about to meet the noose, you should ALWAYS tell town everything you know.  It gives you a chance of surviving so town doesn't lynch a townie, and it gives town more info to work with tomorrow if they do make the mistake of lynching you.

Goose, Vanilla is the generic name for "needledicks" in most games.  Because it's the most basic flavor of ice cream, obviously.  Just like how games without the expansion packs are sometimes called Vanilla Starcraft or Vanilla Civ3, for example.

Those are my general thoughts.  If anyone was hoping for me or others to tell them specifically how they did, say so, but I'm not really a scumhunting expert so don't expect too much insight.

Yes, I'm just as surprised no one noticed that sportsguy was among those voting on Etch on the final vote count on day 1. In fact, I had considered pointing it out, hoping to lead to a lynch of sportsguy to solidify myself as town. But we decided his poisoning abilities would be best kept in the game.

ahem, noobs

I think you're a poor player for spouting so much waffle throughout the first two days.

On top of that you got me lynched which caused a double town killing. No.. clearly.. you are.. the better player!