Mario Kart MB - Official new strat ideas topic

Rhodechill Legend Offline An actual sprite of a SMK Kerpa Derpa 5945 days karting Rainbow Rhode Island Gender:	Re: Official new strat ideas topic Reply #2275 - 08/28/17 at 05:26:39 Not as well as I did it on the 2nd turn^ But I knew it was probably old. --- Just a question. Why is it slower to not cancel the wheelie at 0:41? If the answer is 'alignment', can't a different alignment be used? https://youtu.be/Ws8uJp1BxE0?t=41s
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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2276 - 08/28/17 at 09:50:59

Rhodechill wrote on 08/28/17 at 05:26:39:

Not as well as I did it on the 2nd turn^ But I knew it was probably old.

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Just a question.

Why is it slower to not cancel the wheelie at 0:41? If the answer is 'alignment', can't a different alignment be used?

https://youtu.be/Ws8uJp1BxE0?t=41s

He's drifting off the mushroom, so he isn't canceling his wheelie midair. It's slower to maintain a wheelie because you're taking a wider line, and drifting doesn't lose time with mushrooms.

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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2277 - 08/30/17 at 19:41:47

Crude example but im basically saying readjust angle to have wheelie last longer while still not going wide

you'd go a *little* wider but not much if you approach differently from original strat

i suspect players might avoid this cuz theyre already 'too comfortable' with the areas they choose to bounce on the mushrooms to get low bounces and don't wanna re-adjust/find new lower spots potentially?

again, *extremely* crude example/angle shown here, but maybe it illustrates my idea a little better via the use of slight exaggeration?

http://imgur.com/a/5maxq

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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:

Syzygy [Tim] you are a fucking milkface i like to punch you in your fucking milkface ..

Why'd you cut holes in the face of your moon base? Don't you know about the temperature change?

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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2279 - 10/22/17 at 03:07:50

Daηίεl wrote on 08/31/17 at 00:32:34:

It's faster to hold the wheelie, yes, and then skip the last mushroom (like in the TAS, I did it in my .619 too) but it's also hard to do.

That's too hard, I'm asking for casual TT/wifi strats, possibly even wr strats: is it faster to do this but not skip the last mushroom all while getting fairly low bounces?

anyway new strat idea but this one's shabby:

https://youtu.be/svZJM-N0eYc

obv you dont wanna hit the wall after but... good idea? bad? lower trick possible?

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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:

Syzygy [Tim] you are a fucking milkface i like to punch you in your fucking milkface ..

Why'd you cut holes in the face of your moon base? Don't you know about the temperature change?

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Rhodechill Legend Offline An actual sprite of a SMK Kerpa Derpa ate 5945 donuts Rainbow Rhode Island Gender:	Re: Official new strat ideas topic Reply #2280 - 12/22/17 at 08:54:03 https://youtu.be/XIpr9RAKJXI why no use this on rDS?
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Diamond Legend Offline Roasted 2942 Statisticians	Re: Official new strat ideas topic Reply #2281 - 12/22/17 at 09:05:58 Rhodechill wrote on 12/22/17 at 08:54:03: https://youtu.be/XIpr9RAKJXI why no use this on rDS? It barely saves any time and is difficult to do on rDS due to offroad. Also what version of Concord Town is that lol
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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2282 - 12/22/17 at 09:48:56

Camtomtroy pack one. the version used on the date my video was uploaded years ago.

Also, I find i hard to believe the Kart turnskip strat on RR is impossible with flame runner. OR spear. I did some FR tests and was able to get some crazy bounce that would yield enough distance for sure, just went out of bounds because I cut the urn too tight due to poor point of entry. I wouldn't be surprised if i is possible. Someone with dolphin should experiment. all that matters is you get a bounce when landing, and you probably wanna do the TF shroomless strat control scheme thin there.

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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:

Syzygy [Tim] you are a fucking milkface i like to punch you in your fucking milkface ..

Why'd you cut holes in the face of your moon base? Don't you know about the temperature change?

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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2283 - 01/13/18 at 10:11:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDpE-VULwA

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this guy in the vid hits the floor almost at first then bounces up so he can make the OOB part. makes me think, can you get to that OOB part another (hopefully easier) way, such as by the nearby fountain or something?

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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:

Syzygy [Tim] you are a fucking milkface i like to punch you in your fucking milkface ..

Why'd you cut holes in the face of your moon base? Don't you know about the temperature change?

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Reply #2284 - 01/13/18 at 10:26:28

Rhodechill wrote on 01/13/18 at 10:11:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDpE-VULwA

[MKWii - TAS] Coconut Mall first Lap 37.919//new Glitch discovered

this guy in the vid hits the floor almost at first then bounces up so he can make the OOB part. makes me think, can you get to that OOB part another (hopefully easier) way, such as by the nearby fountain or something?

Are you thinking this should be used for glitch or no glitch, because by definition, going out of bounds at all automatically makes your time a glitch run

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Hugo wrote on 07/31/17 at 15:13:47:

Well, it would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

JawsTheShark wrote on 10/17/18 at 14:10:09:

Walter is Australian, right?

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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2285 - 01/13/18 at 11:20:43

Diamond wrote on 01/13/18 at 10:26:28:

Rhodechill wrote on 01/13/18 at 10:11:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDpE-VULwA

[MKWii - TAS] Coconut Mall first Lap 37.919//new Glitch discovered

this guy in the vid hits the floor almost at first then bounces up so he can make the OOB part. makes me think, can you get to that OOB part another (hopefully easier) way, such as by the nearby fountain or something?

Are you thinking this should be used for glitch or no glitch, because by definition, going out of bounds at all automatically makes your time a glitch run

Definitely glitch imo. If rDKJP rail cut and GV rock hop are "glitches/sc" category than this is too

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Rhodechill wrote on 02/16/18 at 09:53:50:

how do you get WR but bypass the top tens

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PP can do whatever the fuck they want, I and nobody else can really change that

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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2286 - 01/13/18 at 11:58:37

Diamond wrote on 01/13/18 at 10:26:28:

Rhodechill wrote on 01/13/18 at 10:11:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDpE-VULwA

[MKWii - TAS] Coconut Mall first Lap 37.919//new Glitch discovered

this guy in the vid hits the floor almost at first then bounces up so he can make the OOB part. makes me think, can you get to that OOB part another (hopefully easier) way, such as by the nearby fountain or something?

Are you thinking this should be used for glitch or no glitch, because by definition, going out of bounds at all automatically makes your time a glitch run

Seriously? Smiley

Of course it's a glitch. He's going through walls and shit.

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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2287 - 01/13/18 at 12:05:36

JawsTheShark wrote on 01/13/18 at 11:58:37:

Diamond wrote on 01/13/18 at 10:26:28:

Rhodechill wrote on 01/13/18 at 10:11:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDpE-VULwA

[MKWii - TAS] Coconut Mall first Lap 37.919//new Glitch discovered

this guy in the vid hits the floor almost at first then bounces up so he can make the OOB part. makes me think, can you get to that OOB part another (hopefully easier) way, such as by the nearby fountain or something?

Are you thinking this should be used for glitch or no glitch, because by definition, going out of bounds at all automatically makes your time a glitch run

Seriously? Smiley

Of course it's a glitch. He's going through walls and shit.

I know that it's a glitch. It's just unclear to me whether or not Rhode knows that going OOB like that automatically makes a run a glitch time

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Hugo wrote on 07/31/17 at 15:13:47:

Well, it would be like rolling a die and it landing tails every time. After every roll the chance of it being tails becomes less and less, because eventually it will land on heads.

JawsTheShark wrote on 10/17/18 at 14:10:09:

Walter is Australian, right?

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Rhodechill Legend Offline An actual sprite of a SMK Kerpa Derpa 5945 holabolas Rainbow Rhode Island Gender:	Re: Official new strat ideas topic Reply #2288 - 01/17/18 at 00:18:25 I'm talking about if a player wishes to do that route. What's the best way to optimize it. And my suggestion is back there.
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Reply #2290 - 01/24/18 at 08:24:07

Rein_666 wrote on 01/24/18 at 07:59:18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjofi7BYnQI&feature=youtu.be&t=52

Could an extra MT be added at the zipper? It seems there is little to no distance covered without boost before this zipper. Since the speed difference of drifitng/wheelies while boosting is little, might an extra MT overtake the ghost without?

no

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Re: Official new strat ideas topic
Reply #2291 - 01/24/18 at 08:35:50

Rein_666 wrote on 01/24/18 at 07:59:18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjofi7BYnQI&feature=youtu.be&t=52

Could an extra MT be added at the zipper? It seems there is little to no distance covered without boost before this zipper. Since the speed difference of drifitng/wheelies while boosting is little, might an extra MT overtake the ghost without?

Lol how about coming back Tongue

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Reply #2292 - 01/24/18 at 09:00:28

InnovΔ wrote on 01/24/18 at 08:24:07:

Rein_666 wrote on 01/24/18 at 07:59:18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjofi7BYnQI&feature=youtu.be&t=52

Could an extra MT be added at the zipper? It seems there is little to no distance covered without boost before this zipper. Since the speed difference of drifitng/wheelies while boosting is little, might an extra MT overtake the ghost without?

no

Why, have you tested it?

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Try spelling his name backwards if you can't remember it.

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KingAlex Ex Member	Re: Official new strat ideas topic Reply #2293 - 01/24/18 at 10:30:53 Don't be rude to Reinier, guy's an mkw legend!
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Reply #2294 - 01/24/18 at 14:50:46

Rein_666 wrote on 01/24/18 at 07:59:18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjofi7BYnQI&feature=youtu.be&t=52

Could an extra MT be added at the zipper? It seems there is little to no distance covered without boost before this zipper. Since the speed difference of drifitng/wheelies while boosting is little, might an extra MT overtake the ghost without?

I'm pretty sure I tried it and it was slower.

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ZedR King Offline EPK 3575 days karting Germany Gender:	Re: Official new strat ideas topic Reply #2297 - 01/25/18 at 11:25:30 Rein_666 wrote on 01/25/18 at 10:07:03: ZedR wrote on 01/25/18 at 01:58:57: I mean, I want Reinier back Who knows, maybe one day So many people came back, you are definitely missing
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Reply #2299 - 01/28/18 at 11:28:01

WL95★Jaxon wrote on 01/28/18 at 10:21:36:

https://youtu.be/dguGJLAp730

Is there any reason why people don't do this in legit runs? I literally tried this for 5 minutes and I can almost get it every time

I was messing around with this in December and from what I’ve found it’s not worth it at the current level of DKJP. It saves little from the comparisons I’ve done (though keep in mind I’m probably not doing it optimally like the TAS) and it was kind of inconsistent. Sometimes I got sticks, little amounts of air, or massive amounts of air. Getting as many runs to the shroom spot and optimizing the shroom spot takes priority over this, especially since my success rate of getting decent shrooms is low. Maybe in the future I or someone else will implement it (and the triple MT at the spiral) if we get more consistent at the shroom. But for now, I really don’t think it’s worth it. Sadly DKJP ng is a neglected category so the progression has been really slow. My 2:12.559 from 2009 would still be 5th WW if I didn't improve Smiley

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