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Mario Kart X Mafia! [Town Wins] (Read 13706 times)
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Re: Mario Kart X Mafia! [Town Wins]
Reply #1200 - 02/18/09 at 18:03:57
 
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If the roles are secret, is it then better to play with roles that can reveal others' roles?


They can work, but that could easily be overpowered.  I think Detective does this, but it reveals 3 options of what the role could be, because knowing for sure a person's role is a very powerful thing.

For some reason I'm acting like I know what I'm talking about even though I've only played like 3 games. Grin

I haven't seen a game with a Mafia Protector, but it could be interesting.  I wouldn't want to give away what roles I might use though! Tongue

Everyone's a Jester!
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Reply #1201 - 02/18/09 at 18:07:48
 
Closed game is more fun as you actually have to think about what roles there are in the game and wether to trust roleclaims. In an open game it's easy to roleclaim some strong town role and get protected by the doc. In this case mafia members can't counterroleclaim or they'll be lynched the day this happens or the next day. If the claimed townie is lynched first and the mafia member after that it's not that bad, (just a fair trade, one cop for one mafiosi) but if the mafia member gets lynched first

In this game Etch could have openclaimed cop first day. with such a big amount of protectors (toad, mario, daisy) he could have easily made 4 or 5 searches at night without any risk, (just tell them to protect you, day 1->toad, day2 ->daisy, etc.) while mafia were trying to shoot them all.

This results in a follow-the-cop mentality. (meh, i just realize that we had a mafia roleblocker, but there are other examples when an open set up is fucked, look at how i got lamed out of the game as remaining mafia member, i had 0% chance thanks to the open set up)

But in a closed game, a cop claim can mean anything. Has he been trustworthy? Are there role blockers? Are there doctors? Is there a cop at all? Is he the only cop? etc.

In the end i think that open setup is good to learn the basics, see how this stuff works out in practice, but after that it's more fun/balanced to use a closed set up. If the mod actually balances it out good enough.

Edit: Jesters suck in a closed set up btw, way too easy to get yourself lynched when none knows that there's actually a jester. Though i've seen games with some great teamwork between town and mafia to kill the jester at night  Cheesy

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Edit3: shit, i'm not allowed to edit my posts! Shocked
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Reply #1202 - 02/18/09 at 18:42:02
 
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I haven't seen a game with a Mafia Protector, but it could be interesting.

That way the Vigilante or Jack-of-trades need to be careful about who they nightkill, because a certain mafia might try to act mafia-like to attract their attention, but he is really poison bait. In our game Tom could kill anyone and the downside (killing a townie) wasn't so bad for him (he was already expected to kill a townie; the mafia let him alive for that reason)

Also, I don't think we should have any roles that win "for themselves", like Jester and Serial Killer. It sounds more interesting for a whole team to win, not for one person.

PS. I initially read your jester smallprint as "everyone's a Jailer". Tempting!


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Reply #1203 - 02/18/09 at 20:35:19
 
Make everyone town or mafia.

That would be amusing to see play out. Grin
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Reply #1204 - 02/18/09 at 21:43:01
 
Everyone being town is better than everyone being maf because maf know who each other are.  Roll Eyes

Anyway, I don't like the idea of a closed game. If Robin starts a closed game, I'll start an open game.  Smiley
I know what I'm doing anyway, It'll be fine.  Cool
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Kmacc wrote on 02/25/09 at 22:32:26:
As much as I want to vote spazzup(padzup), I can't because according to pulsar, he's a needledick. Undecided
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Reply #1205 - 02/18/09 at 21:50:44
 
I'm not doing mine for a while.  If you want to host one, I'll wait till you're done.  Having two games running at once would probably be a bad idea.
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Reply #1206 - 02/18/09 at 21:55:49
 
Definitely give us at LEAST 7 days break from now...maybe more.
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Reply #1207 - 02/18/09 at 22:11:55
 
^Yeah sure, it'll give me time to think of a good setup.  Smiley

Actually, I'll start a new sign up topic now so that I can get a general idea of how many people are going to play.  Smiley
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Kmacc wrote on 02/25/09 at 22:32:26:
As much as I want to vote spazzup(padzup), I can't because according to pulsar, he's a needledick. Undecided
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