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What's the story?
07/06/08 at 14:11:24
 
Behind John Falls Marshall, Karina Villa, and Julio Cesar Morales being a backwards Eric Habrich?

It's on the front page but there's no back story here like I expected.
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Reply #1 - 07/06/08 at 14:30:51
 
Yeah! What's?  Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - 07/06/08 at 14:31:47
 
For those who don't know the story of Julio Cesar Morales:
This guy climbed the rankings like a madman in 2006, claimed many impossible GOD times for his level, and won several POWs and POMs before he was banned. After he was banned for claiming impossible times and for lack of cooperation with validation, he tried to come back several times with fake new names and with new (and slower) times, sometimes succeeding for a short while.
The names John Falls Marshall and Karina Villa are both fake names. They're just other new fake identities of Julio Cesar Morales. Karina was already banned from the MK64 because of strong suspicion of identity faking. However, now the proof is 100% clear.
I can't give all the details here. Validation issues are always handled privately and not publicly on a messageboard. Julio might continue to try to get back on the site in the future, and we don't want to tell him all the details here of how we catch cheaters. Just take my word, that the proof is 100% indisputable now. Karina Villa is fake. I'm really sorry to tell that to the people who trusted her.

If you really want to know more details, you can contact me personally (my email is on the MK64 mainpage). Don't try to discuss it here on the forum though.

Btw: JC Morales / Karina Villa / John Falls Marshall have nothing to do with Eric Habrich. J x c x b _ S x n s x x didn't mean to suggest that I think, but I just want to clear that up.
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Reply #3 - 07/06/08 at 14:40:01
 
I think I am going to be sick........
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Reply #4 - 07/06/08 at 14:55:16
 
Good grief. >.<

While I love the trust given by the MK64 staff, I suppose this shit is bound to happen.  Thankfully I have vids *puts up old one*.  Cheesy

I'd ask why it wasn't discovered sooner, but obviously the staff isn't out there constantly looking for people with alternate accounts.  Good job to whoever found it though.
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Reply #5 - 07/06/08 at 15:11:47
 
I remember one of his fakes tried to beat me on MKDD! But soon was removed!
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Reply #6 - 07/06/08 at 15:12:27
 
It's good to have this cleared up. The absurd bit is that "Karina" actually did contribute a lot to the activity here on the board, in a positive way. One may only wonder what peculiar psychological mechanisms lay behind this kind of behaviour. It doesn't seem like an ordinary case of cheating. I guess I pity this guy.

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Reply #7 - 07/06/08 at 15:23:35
 
Well I did talk with "her" on MSN but there was often some non coherent thing that "she" kept on changing.

The only thing I wonder is where did he gets all those vids was he driving those good times?
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Reply #8 - 07/06/08 at 16:20:09
 
Finally, this can all be finally laid to rest. Thanks Mods! You guys deserve a huge thanks from everyone here for doing a phenomenal job and keeping this place a fantastic community for all.  Smiley
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Reply #9 - 07/06/08 at 17:47:27
 
The only question I've got is where the videos came from as well... perhaps they caught him/her because they found the videos were ripped off someone else?
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Reply #11 - 07/06/08 at 17:55:41
 
Oneshot......I was thinking in this movie right now! eaheahea


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Reply #12 - 07/06/08 at 18:11:16
 
Matt V wrote on 07/06/08 at 14:55:16:
I'd ask why it wasn't discovered sooner, but obviously the staff isn't out there constantly looking for people with alternate accounts.

We've suspected for a long time that Karina is JCM. The action taken was delayed because Michael wanted indisputable proof, and additionally because there's no good way to handle it.
- if we remove him, people will be disappointed (and he will try to come back again)
- if we don't remove him, he would be using multiple identities and affecting the charts. Using a single fake name is fine, but multiple names is not.
- a lot of people like Karina for her personality... (we don't know if that's genuine or a pretend to win the crowd).

nstinson wrote on 07/06/08 at 17:47:27:
perhaps they caught him/her because they found the videos were ripped off someone else?

The videos were one source of proof, yes. Can't tell you more. Recall, however, that in the Hab case, the videos were real. It was the player who was dishonest. That was still enough to do take actions.
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Reply #13 - 07/06/08 at 18:16:31
 
To be fair i love a bit of gossip. But this JCM character has gone beyond the call of duty for a psycho, keeping this act up, creating a whole new personality with pics and a backstory and whatnot. For sure, this guy is a legend but hes dangerous and needs to be locked up. Aren't you guys glad you have me? I'd never lie to you!  Smiley
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Reply #14 - 07/06/08 at 18:35:37
 
Give it a rest guys.  You're just saying that now, because of the unfair proof policy you put on her.  You just don't want to admit a girl is better than you.
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Reply #15 - 07/06/08 at 14:16:58
 
Thank fuck you guys finally kicked that karina thing off. I kicked up a fuss about this a while ago when I returned from a few months away. Didn't see the john falls thing coming but I had my suspicions about his very rapid rise.
What a sad cock this guy must be. I'd love to be locked in an empty room with him with a claw hammer.
I've always just ignored any karina comments here but surprised how many people refused to see it. Even when the writing style changed totally in different posts.
What a fucking mess. How'd the limp dick give it away so bad? I want the CSI style story Cheesy
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Reply #16 - 07/06/08 at 18:38:27
 
I knew drag would take the other side on principle. Smiley

Stick by your guns, drag! Cheesy
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Reply #17 - 07/06/08 at 18:39:28
 
DanLesiak wrote on 07/06/08 at 14:16:58:
What a fucking mess. How'd the limp dick give it away so bad? I want the CSI style story Cheesy


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Reply #18 - 07/06/08 at 18:43:02
 
oneshotbilly wrote on 07/06/08 at 18:16:31:
To be fair i love a bit of gossip. But this JCM character has gone beyond the call of duty for a psycho, keeping this act up, creating a whole new personality with pics and a backstory and whatnot. For sure, this guy is a legend but hes dangerous and needs to be locked up.


You know, for the first time (in a long time, if ever), I completely agree with you. There's a juicy story, which is (generally) fine, but for someone to make up these fake personalities isn't fair to the MK community, not just for those involved with the rankings, but for those on the MB that actually believed she was a legit female person. She did make a lot of positive contributions to the community, but it's not right to keep making up these personalities.

I doubt anyone will ever know the true story of JCM/Brenda/Karina/all the other personalities, but something isn't right with this person.
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Reply #19 - 07/06/08 at 18:58:40
 
Pobre has been logged onto Karinas AIM account many times, so that must mean Karina = Pobre as well.  So if this is true, Pobre should also be banned.
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Definitely something I can agree with Cheesy
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Reply #21 - 07/06/08 at 19:10:17
 
So who is Lizzy (Karinas sis) then?  Does she have anything to do with your claim?  She's a good karter as well.
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dragondragon wrote on 07/06/08 at 19:10:17:
So who is Lizzy (Karinas sis) then?  Does she have anything to do with your claim?  She's a good karter as well.


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Reply #23 - 07/06/08 at 19:11:44
 
WTF I'M CONFUSED

Brenda?

Pobre?

WTF?
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Reply #24 - 07/06/08 at 19:11:58
 
dragondragon wrote on 07/06/08 at 19:10:17:
So who is Lizzy (Karinas sis) then?  Does she have anything to do with your claim?  She's a good karter as well.


Probably another fake, if she's on the rankings. Would be worth looking into.

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