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Question: What should be the rules for names on the site?

You must use a name that at least looks real.  
  32 (68%)
You can use nicknames.  
  11 (23.4%)
It depends on how good/important you are.  
  2 (4.2%)
Other (explain)  
  2 (4.2%)




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« Created by: Honko on: 04/18/08 at 14:46:56 »

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04/18/08 at 14:46:56
 
I just translated the Join Page for MKW into Japanese, and while I was doing it I remembered the angry debates that came up when some Japanese players joined MKDS with nicknames.  So I think it would be best for us all to make a decision about this quickly, before the problem comes up, so we don't have to deal with angry debates later.

The question is, should people be allowed to join with nicknames?  How would you feel about seeing players named ToadRocks or xyzz78 on the rankings?  For whatever reason, some players, especially many from Japan, don't like providing a real name on the internet.  If they refuse to join unless they can use a nickname, what should we do?

Right now my translation says "even if you don't want to write your real name, using a name that looks real is important."  Should I add after that "but if you really want to, nicknames are ok" or "no matter what, nicknames are never allowed" or something else?
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Reply #1 - 04/18/08 at 15:10:09
 
No way, I think nicknames should be NOT allowed.  The way we have the site gives personalization in comparison to the more Nickname-y leaderboards in-game.  Real names also continue the trend of the other 5 kart sites.  I know some people make up a name, but rather to have a made up "real name" than a stupid "LoZRox1337" or something like that.

"no matter what, nicknames are not allowed" would be the best choice from your post.
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Reply #2 - 04/18/08 at 16:25:32
 
Maybe and considerable option would be to display the player's names as JOHN "Dr.BoBo" SMITH. I can see some traditional reasons why not... but it's an option that's a _little_ more sensible both parties...

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By the way, nice initiative Robin.. you inspired me to start translating those pages in French. If anyone's already ahead of me, please tell me.
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Benoit is, evidently and quite obviously, the man. Cool
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Reply #3 - 04/18/08 at 16:35:31
 
Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting that everyone or most people goes by nicknames.  Absolutely we want most people to have real names, and ideally everyone.  The question is what do you do when a super-shy person signs up but refuses to give a name?  Do we turn them away?  What if they have a WR, does that affect our decision?  On the SMK and MKDS site, they get accepted, while the other sites seem more harsh about this.  Where will we stand on this site?

I like Benoit's idea, if we just give them a random "real-looking" name and put their nickname inside to clarify who they are.  I think that would be preferable to just sticking the nickname in the charts on its own.
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Reply #4 - 04/18/08 at 18:51:56
 
Ideally we want people to use real names but of course there are people, that, for whatever reason are hesitant to give up that information.  In that case they should come up with something that is close to their name and real sounding.  Personally, I wouldn't want to look at the charts and see KingBowser88, XSuperToad, and stuff like that.  

In the submission rules, at least on the MKDD page, it clearly states:  Full name (as you want it to appear in the charts - and no nicknames, we need a proper name).  Perhaps a similar rule should be implemented on the Wii page.

If the situation arises I suggest you try to contact them for a formal name and, if they are still apprehensive, explain that we can work with an alias so long as it is a real sounding name that they will continue playing with.

You should be proud of your scores, not hide behind a fake name...
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Reply #5 - 04/18/08 at 19:41:41
 
I honestly don't care, but I can see how it would get annoying.

But if people are allowed to use nicknames, then most of the time it would probably be their mb name as well, and then people would know people on the mb.
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Reply #6 - 04/18/08 at 20:05:17
 
Gregor Fran wrote on 04/18/08 at 18:51:56:
Ideally we want people to use real names but of course there are people, that, for whatever reason are hesitant to give up that information.  In that case they should come up with something that is close to their name and real sounding.  Personally, I wouldn't want to look at the charts and see KingBowser88, XSuperToad, and stuff like that.  

In the submission rules, at least on the MKDD page, it clearly states:  Full name (as you want it to appear in the charts - and no nicknames, we need a proper name).  Perhaps a similar rule should be implemented on the Wii page.

If the situation arises I suggest you try to contact them for a formal name and, if they are still apprehensive, explain that we can work with an alias so long as it is a real sounding name that they will continue playing with.

You should be proud of your scores, not hide behind a fake name...


I agree. I don't want to browse the charts and see that PrincessPeachOMG has passed me in the rankings. I can understand why someone wouldn't want to use their real name on a Mario Kart site, but at the same time, I don't want the MKWii rankings to just be random "nicknames" having times.
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Reply #7 - 04/18/08 at 22:01:15
 
When I join make me BoWSaR65
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Reply #8 - 04/18/08 at 23:44:26
 
If people don't want to give their real names then fine, they should atleast give a fake one then; so it doesn't mess up the site.
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Re: Nicknames
Reply #9 - 04/19/08 at 00:47:32
 
Japanese players have joined MKDS site using their nicknames. Seems to work fine for me. I think we can make this exception for Japanese names in MKW too.
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Reply #10 - 04/19/08 at 01:02:06
 
Is a poll really neccesary? Of course NO nicknames Wink
If people refuse to give their name, they shouldn't be allowed on the site, no matter what
And like Gregor said, you should be proud, not hide behind a fake name
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Reply #11 - 04/19/08 at 01:27:19
 
1st: I would want the Japanese to join the page with a name written in letters, not those Jap. symbols. How are you supposed to see if XXX isn't YYY if you don't know those symbols?!

2nd: If they do #1, they can make up names or use cool nicknames, I don't care. I wouldn't be able to see if "Husu Marakashi" is real or made up.
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Reply #12 - 04/19/08 at 01:47:11
 
Ostro wrote on 04/19/08 at 01:27:19:
1st: I would want the Japanese to join the page with a name written in letters, not those Jap. symbols. How are you supposed to see if XXX isn't YYY if you don't know those symbols?!

Of course, that's a requirement for everyone from all countries.  Your name has to be with regular A-Z roman alphabet characters.
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Reply #13 - 04/19/08 at 01:51:22
 
Then I'm cool with it as long as the name looks real (name surname) Smiley
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Reply #14 - 04/19/08 at 02:53:00
 
please nicknames not allowed!!!

real names are better  Smiley

and real names are important for the combined rangking  Wink
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Reply #15 - 04/19/08 at 02:54:44
 
A name that at least looks real. The MKDS rankings look really ugly with random numbers and letters for some names.
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Reply #16 - 04/19/08 at 12:53:07
 
Feel free to use a name.....

VAJ is a (nick)name of mine. (these are my initials) I think thats all fine to me.
real names are much better I think.

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Reply #17 - 04/19/08 at 13:00:32
 
nicknames are ugly on the charts
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Reply #18 - 04/19/08 at 17:52:31
 
M. Sax wrote on 04/19/08 at 13:00:32:
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Reply #19 - 04/19/08 at 17:59:05
 
I say real names, but if you dont want to put personal information over the internet atleast make up a fake name. No one wants to see a bunch of numbers on a leaderboard.
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Reply #20 - 04/19/08 at 19:24:33
 
I think the reason some people don't want to give their full name is b/c of the last name. Maybe just require first name and last initial, but not the complete last name (where giving the full last name would be encouraged but not required). I don't want to put my full name all over the internet, but I have no problem with Josh H.

As for nicknames, I think it's a good idea to include them, but have them appear like a middle name Josh "Husky" H., or in a different column RR - time - Josh H. - Husky. Or maybe just have them appear on the page for an individual, but not the overall charts for AF, courses, WRs, etc.
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Reply #21 - 04/19/08 at 23:30:11
 
IsThatAGoodTime wrote on 04/18/08 at 15:10:09:
No way, I think nicknames should be NOT allowed.  The way we have the site gives personalization in comparison to the more Nickname-y leaderboards in-game.  Real names also continue the trend of the other 5 kart sites.  I know some people make up a name, but rather to have a made up "real name" than a stupid "LoZRox1337" or something like that.

"no matter what, nicknames are not allowed" would be the best choice from your post.


Agreed. Nicknames or anything that smells dodgy should be banned. Moreover if kart players put the effort in they should feel they're a member of a community they can be exalted within, not exploited.
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