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VAJ Ex Member	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #75 - 04/19/08 at 13:02:25 Dunno what 2 say........ It'sd an official game option to drive bikes... but in the name of KARTs I would recomemnded another chart for Bikes.... comeone poeple it's MARIOKART WII. Not MARIOBIKES....... Stupid idea from NINTENDO. VAJ
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Ostro King Offline Kris helped 7400 people Germany, Bremen Gender:	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #76 - 04/19/08 at 13:05:52 I hope you voted "Don't have the game yet"
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VAJ Ex Member	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #77 - 04/19/08 at 13:28:23 Ostro wrote on 04/19/08 at 13:05:52: I hope you voted "Don't have the game yet" That means the charts are separate on the game cartighe Anyway just don't understand why nintendo put bikes in the game here..... Mariokart shouldn't been mixed up with bikes!!
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Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts?
Reply #78 - 04/19/08 at 13:36:38

VAJ wrote on 04/19/08 at 13:28:23:

Ostro wrote on 04/19/08 at 13:05:52:

I hope you voted "Don't have the game yet" Roll Eyes

That means the charts are separate on the game cartighe Roll Eyes

Anyway just don't understand why nintendo put bikes in the game here.....

Mariokart shouldn't been mixed up with bikes!! Smiley

my feelings, too! why didn't they ask us first? every time they make a new version, they make all sorts of stupid mistakes which we could have told them were stupid mistakes :'(.

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PresidentEvil King Offline worships 6335 kartgods	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #79 - 04/19/08 at 13:43:40 Yes, because Mario Kart is made exclusively for you and nobody else.
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Ostro King Offline Kris 7400 days karting Germany, Bremen Gender:	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #81 - 04/19/08 at 14:02:55 Us = minority of players
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Moritz King Offline Owns all Mario Kart Games missed 7683 mts Guaíra - PR, Brasil Gender:	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #82 - 04/27/08 at 08:03:23 finn, I forgot to ask that, I think this is not well explained, what does separate charts really mean? That you want only 2 rankings, one for bike, another for kart, or you want 3 rankings, one for kart, another for bike and another one is mixed like we have now? Moritz
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Matt V Legend Offline 6446 holabolas Canada Gender:	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #83 - 04/27/08 at 14:06:00 I don't have the game quite yet, so I feel the need to ask a noob-ish question. If cars have extended MT's, why are some records done using bikes?
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Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts?
Reply #85 - 04/28/08 at 11:17:35

Well, I don't really see the need for separate charts. Assuming you have enough "skill" to unlock everything, everybody can use the same characters/vehicles. So that means that once the pros figure out which vehicle type to use for each course (which has basically been done already probably), anybody can ask, then use that vehicle to PR. On the other hand, more charts means more competition. Wink

Only problem is proofing, if you can't hit a PR, you need a vid (which actually isn't a problem for most players come to think of it).

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Chuck Foster King Offline __THAT__GUY__ 6769 days karting Texas, USA Gender:	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #86 - 04/28/08 at 11:38:40 Now that I have the game I can vote in this. I say leave it all in one chart. Karts and Bikes are still governed by the same physics. The game keeps track of the best times regardless of the vehicle and I think we should do the same. Plus, one single chart is so much easier to keep up with.
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Reply #87 - 04/28/08 at 11:53:29

Chuck Foster wrote on 04/28/08 at 11:38:40:

Now that I have the game I can vote in this.

I say leave it all in one chart. Karts and Bikes are still governed by the same physics. The game keeps track of the best times regardless of the vehicle and I think we should do the same. Plus, one single chart is so much easier to keep up with.

Agreed. After using both bikes and karts, I don't see a fundamental difference between the two. Either (1) you're doing a wheelie or not when going straight, or (2) you're going for a 2nd tier MT or not on turns. Sucks that one method might prove more dominant than the other, but I don't think it's enough for separate charts.

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Colin Stephens Elite Offline missed 6595 mts Pennsylvania, US Gender:	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #88 - 04/28/08 at 16:52:04 No, it'll be a pain to keep track of two different vehicle times, along with each 3lap +flap, on 32 different courses.
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Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts?
Reply #89 - 04/28/08 at 20:56:13

Voted Yes.

- Bikes are obviously faster than karts
- All of them are vehicle, ok. But they have really different gameplay, and it offers a nice way to create more various rankings
- Wifi doesn't make the difference. So that would be a cool functionnality to get it here. Otherwise, you can say farewell to any Kart PR... that's just sad
- I simply don't like bikes. I'd like to be the best with karts. And even my level doesn't allow it, I'd like to compete with karts... pretty simple

Here is how I think it could be done :
- Create 3 rankings : Kart, Bike, and Overall
- If someone sends you a Kart PR, put it in his PR on Kart PR table
- If someone sends you a Bike PR, put it in his PR on Bike PR table
- When querying the Overall ranking, for each player the best of his Kart and Bike data is used
- When querying the Bike/Kart ranking, the related table is used
- Of course, Overall ranking is the mainly one used for awards and such...

or

- Create 2 rankings : Overall and Kart limited
- If someone sends you a Bike PR, put it in his PR on Overal PR table
- If someone sends you a Kart PR, put it in his PR on Kart PR table
- When querying the Overall ranking, for each player the best of his Kart and Bike data is used
- When querying the Kart ranking, the kart table is used
- Overall is the main

I think it would just be a great functionality.

I also think that there is something like "it must be like this" or "it must not be like that". Functionality can just be fun and that's all what should be taken in consideration, with the technical feasibility of course.

Thus, IMO if it's not to painful to create and maintain, just do it (and so goes any other functionality). Otherwise, don't.
Whiners (like me ^^) from both sides should not be considered.

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yaz King Offline 7393 days karting	Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts? Reply #90 - 04/29/08 at 05:16:44 keep it simple: one chart
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Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts?
Reply #92 - 04/30/08 at 09:03:18

Here's my opinion:

It has to be kept to one chart.

My rationale:
In Mario Kart Double Dash, there's not separate charts for small/medium/large karts, even though small karts, the barrel train specifically, are clearly dominant.

You don't see anyone trying to do time trials with Bowser's huge ass kart and then complaining because everyone that uses the barrel train has better times.

It all comes down to the simple fact that there will be a clear best vehicle for Wii, bike or not, and everyone will begin to use it for time trials because they don't want to be at a disadvantage.

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Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts?
Reply #93 - 04/30/08 at 21:00:19

Ben Davis wrote on 04/30/08 at 09:03:18:

Here's my opinion:

It has to be kept to one chart.

My rationale:
In Mario Kart Double Dash, there's not separate charts for small/medium/large karts, even though small karts, the barrel train specifically, are clearly dominant.

You don't see anyone trying to do time trials with Bowser's huge ass kart and then complaining because everyone that uses the barrel train has better times.

It all comes down to the simple fact that there will be a clear best vehicle for Wii, bike or not, and everyone will begin to use it for time trials because they don't want to be at a disadvantage.

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Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur.

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Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts?
Reply #94 - 05/01/08 at 14:39:31

while the game doesn't save bikes separate from karts, it would be cake to make 2 profiles one for bikes one for karts. but with 32 tracks seriously do you really want 128 WR's for one damn game? I think it's pointless. Fastest way to beat each track is what you should use, and if there are any glitchy SC's then track those separate otherwise just leave it be.

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Re: Bikes/karts: Should there be separate charts?
Reply #95 - 05/01/08 at 21:48:01

Jondy wrote on 05/01/08 at 14:39:31:

while the game doesn't save bikes separate from karts, it would be cake to make 2 profiles one for bikes one for karts. but with 32 tracks seriously do you really want 128 WR's for one damn game? I think it's pointless. Fastest way to beat each track is what you should use, and if there are any glitchy SC's then track those separate otherwise just leave it be.

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oneshot1985 wrote on 06/26/10 at 04:04:12:

Last time I heard that, I fell off my dinosaur.

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Question: Should there be separate charts?
Yes 28 (28.2%) No 40 (40.4%) I don't have the game yet 31 (31.3%) Total votes: 99 « Created by: Michael F on: 04/10/08 at 20:59:51 »