This poll is about the official charts that will be on the MK Wii Players' Page, not about the WRs topic on the forum.

I only want opinions from people who have already played the game, so please do not vote if you haven't played it yet.

Honko wrote on 04/10/08 at 21:32:34:


I'd rather you didn't vote.  I want to hear from people who have already played with both bikes and karts.  Can someone explain in detail exactly what the difference is between bikes and karts?  Are they somewhat similar, or are they completely different, like car/hover in DKR?

termoPilucco wrote on 04/10/08 at 22:08:08:

Have you played any MKDS?  The handling of one of Peach's or Daisy's karts is very different from handling Yoshi's or Dry Bones'.  The Big MT vs Wheelie tradeoff I see as similar to the choice of different number of shrooms in karts in MKDS as well.

AlexPenev wrote on 04/10/08 at 23:36:03:


You can use bike and kart on every track, yes.

I was thinking the same, about seperate charts. I'll think about it today, because I can play pretty much today.

E: The Luigi Circuit WR is with a bike, so maybe the bike is faster.

if the times saves separately in game than there should be separate charts, otherwise no imo, i guess on DKR car/hover/plane times are saved separately?

I say no.

Game doesn't separate charts, I don't see why we should. It's true that karts and bikes handle completely different, but I'd rather consider them "vehicles" all together.

Anyway, bikes seem to be better, unless you have no straightways to do wheelies. The Full MT that only karts can pull off is more powerful and grants higher speed on the track.

On my former WR in Ghost Valley 2 I used a kart and did several FMT's. A bike just can't keep that pace.

I agree with robin and Meakings. The bikes and karts are both possible options in the game, they have no distinquished timeset in the game. In Diddy Kong racing the driving is fundamentally different and hence DKR records the pr's among vehicles under car, plane, hover. In the MKWii if it is the same way, then yes apply the same rule as in DKR, else no.  

In MKWii the bike is just a choice like the choice between bowser and Mario in SMK.. It is a bit awkward that a bike is (currently) the best vehicle in a kart game. But who knows what strats will be developed in the furture and the motorbikes become obsolete... Nintendo better could have renamed the game super mario motorcycle.... anyway it is not that new since in mkdd a train is the best vehicle.. which you can see as just a kart which looks like a train. same for MKWii. just a matter of your imagination. no need for seperat charts....
If so then be consequent, and apply it to all kart games.. yes then Mario and bowser in smk also deserve seperate charts.

^that doesn't make sense, than we should have a chart for every vehicle

I vote no to sepearate charts, purely because the global ranking records are a variation of time made with either karts or bikes. It depends one what track ur playing that ultimately decides if you use a kart or bike. This adds even more element of stratgey. Plus i dont really see my self mike a set of times that has 128 times .

Also you can't really refer to the 50hz/60hz issue and pal/ntsc. The reason mk64 and mkdd have seperate charts is because not everyone in the world is capable of playing in that mode.
with mkw the first time on the console there are no difference is speeds of the game depending on where u live. Everyone has the choice of the same karts and no player is theoretically at a disadvantage jsut because they live some where else.

I don't think there should. The main argument 'Bikes aren't even karts!' is silly. Look at the things you drive in the previous two games. They don't look like karts to me.

After downloading multiple records off Nintendo wifi and watching the replays, it seems bikes are faster on the straighter courses whereas karts win on the more complex courses. It's a nice variety and requires different play styles. There's no reason to make split charts as well.

cool i can answer the poll without contributing anything whatsoever!

I really want to vote, but I won't since you asked so nicely.

I think having separate charts would be more of a hassle than anything.

I really don't want to have to keep track of 128 PRs, especially since the game only keeps track of 64. Also, separating the charts would decrease the amount of time that this place improves on the WRs since people won't always be using the best vehicle for the track.

I vote for whatever Fried disagrees with.

*EDIT - He voted "I don't have the game yet" so I vote against that.