@ Benoit, I agree with most of that.

However, I feel the mkwii MT system seems to have been toned down a lot, not just a little. Although I've only really played MKDS (played MKDD a little), so maybe it's not compared to the earlier kart games. It's toned down all around... no manual input for MT, MTs take longer to perform, and they're supposedly weaker. I wanted it toned down a little from MKDS, but I think this may be too much. Although I think we should all hold our judgment until the game is released... maybe some karts will have quick, strong, or long MTs.

Also, I don't think toning down MTs is the right way to handle those complaints. I understand the complaints and that Nintendo should do something, but they picked the wrong way to deal with it. We all know we're still gonna be better than all the slow players from mkds, so there will still be complaining, simply b/c a lot of people are sore losers. Our non-mt times still crush the times of most mkds anti-snakers. So in a way it doesn't even address the issue. And how it does it is in a sense handicapping the better players, which they don't like obviously. What should have been done is Nintendo should've improved its wifi matchmaking system. They could keep stats on your driving, like how fast you finish, how many MTs you do, etc. This will show your skill and style of racing, then wifi can match people up accordingly by those stats. This way the better players will be matched with better players, decent players with decent players, and noobs with noobs. Or like Stelzig said, it could use lobbies so people can organize and set up their own matches. When opponents are closely matched up, it's a more exciting and fun game. The chances of getting blown away or blowing some one away (both not fun) are much much less, and thus it's more "fair" and there should be less complaining.

I agree with Benoit. I was initially concerned about this when i first heard, but on reflection, im not that bothered if snaking has been removed from the game. I'm sure that it will be just as competetive as its predessesors. I first got hooked on the original MK when snaking didn't exist, and I still believe that game required oodles of skill (just look at Sami's times) which came from hours and hours of practice and dedication.

As for the anti-snakers getting all excited, I can assure you that several months after release these same guys are going to to be trying find something else to blame for their inability to compete at the highest level. It will be the same group of people as in previous MK games clocking the fastest times and bossing the game on WiFi, simply because these people are willing to put in the extra work to achieve this. Im going to love hearing from the anti-snakers in 6 months time, when they realise this, and finally have to admit to themselves that maybe, just maybe, they're not actually that good at MK.

^Yeah that's probably where i had heard that weird quote from earlier too. I still don't believe that it just sounds too weird. How would they be able to create such a mechanism so that it just only triggers on a turn? Will miniturbos only be charged if you start the drift on a turn then? Because in many of the videos we have seen they keep drifting even after getting out of a very small turn and still charge their drift (watch ign luigi on sherbet land video for instance). It just doesn't add up and if that "problem" really happens to exist then there will be found ways around it.

Apparently MTs are angle-based in that the tighter you turn the faster the MT charges. Makes sense from the videos I've seen but even then SSMTing will definitely be possible, the only real difference would be that the approach would be a bit different.

It says Automatic Drift -> No MTs
so how would that work?

ALAKTORN wrote on 03/31/08 at 12:08:59:

It's just not specific, it doesn't explicitly say that it's not like that. We won't be sure until the 11th.

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/01/08 at 00:28:32:

Not neccesarily. It seems very possible that it could act this way. Maybe we'll find a way to ZZMT in this game

Wtf, this game looks far to simple. It seems almost everey game nintendo creates nowadays are created for noobs.   I mean, no snaking just because noobs complained it was to hard.  


i probably won't be playing this game. Looks far to gay and kiddie.

I REALLY don't see how people can complain without even having played the game yet.

Also, my thoughts as far as Yes/No on SSMT/etc.  is that either way, there will be an upper tier...it's not like suddenly EVERYONE will be getting the same WR time as a tie etc.  there will still be enough ways to cut time.

you can use ANY USB keyboard on wii internet...i do like 2 posts/day on it

NO haha...I mean...out of the 4-5 posts I do on here per day, 1 or 2 are made on the wii.

IsThatAGoodTime wrote on 04/01/08 at 13:09:02:

We obviously don't know for sure yet how the game will turn out.  Maybe it will be great.  But you can't argue that the changes announced so far are good for us.  They are definitely trying to remove the competitive racing aspect from the game and make it more about items, tricks, and luck, and since we are time trialers that is no good for us.  If this game ends up having deep competition in TT, it will be because of our skill as a community in figuring out how to take Mario Kart games to the next level, not because the game was designed well for TT.

Drunk Holy Moly wrote on 04/02/08 at 09:49:40:


QFT

No Nintendo enthusiast can accuse anything of being too gay and kiddie