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Blackyboi King Offline 4679 days karting Austria Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16200 - 04/26/13 at 01:38:41 You still can't use the full diagonal movement with the TAS input because you still are limited to the GCN limits. Most ppl don't know that. TAS input for Wii Wheel is the only solution to that...
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Re: Official WRs topic
Reply #16201 - 04/26/13 at 06:02:19

Blackyboi wrote on 04/26/13 at 01:38:41:

You still can't use the full diagonal movement with the TAS input because you still are limited to the GCN limits. Most ppl don't know that. TAS input for Wii Wheel is the only solution to that...

wrong, TAS input has nothing to do with either GCN controller or Wii Wheel, it’s just simulated Wii input, it has all ranges like Hahaae said

MH wrote on 04/25/13 at 20:51:05:

On flat courses like MC3 you won't need anything but the left-right-range.

that is so wrong

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blahpy Legend Offline ate 5457 donuts	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16204 - 04/26/13 at 14:16:36 Rhodechill wrote on 04/26/13 at 14:09:23: hahaae wrote on 04/25/13 at 20:44:46: Umm... what? What I am saying is all that extra space that the Wii Wheel has in terms of movement don't actually DO ANYTHING to the bike. It doesn't do anything different that any other control scheme can do. u dun goofed rhode
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Re: Official WRs topic
Reply #16205 - 04/26/13 at 15:47:46

Rhodechill wrote on 04/26/13 at 14:09:23:

hahaae wrote on 04/25/13 at 20:44:46:

Umm... what?

What I am saying is all that extra space that the Wii Wheel has in terms of movement don't actually DO ANYTHING to the bike. It doesn't do anything different that any other control scheme can do.

You don't know what you're talking about. Have you ever even tried MG SC with the Wii Wheel?

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Reply #16206 - 04/27/13 at 07:42:27

Along with what Walter is saying, while the TAS input let's you have optimum control, does the actual MKW game (or rom) LET you use these controls when you've locked in that you're using a GCN controller when you first start a game? Or would the game limit the movements to that of the GCN, despite you using TAS inputs? Do you see what I'm saying? I don't know the answer because I'm very, very unfamiliar with TASing. Maybe you guys do, or maybe you've already answered it.

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ALAKTORN Myth Offline Resident weeaboo 6518 days karting Italy - Viserba Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16207 - 04/27/13 at 07:46:52 I see what you’re saying and GCN inputs are the exact same as the Wiimote’s, what you’re being restricted by is the physical plastic surrounding the analogue stick, not “what the Wii sees you as using for controller” so it is no different on emulator
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Re: Official WRs topic
Reply #16208 - 04/27/13 at 08:17:14

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/27/13 at 07:46:52:

I see what you’re saying and GCN inputs are the exact same as the Wiimote’s, what you’re being restricted by is the physical plastic surrounding the analogue stick, not “what the Wii sees you as using for controller”

so it is no different on emulator

hmm not really, I think Walter is right. I have just made a short test with TAS input and I set it on full diagonal, and it registered at 4 / 5 (full diagonal should be 7/7 )

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Reply #16209 - 04/27/13 at 08:19:19

MKDasher wrote on 04/27/13 at 08:17:14:

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/27/13 at 07:46:52:

I see what you’re saying and GCN inputs are the exact same as the Wiimote’s, what you’re being restricted by is the physical plastic surrounding the analogue stick, not “what the Wii sees you as using for controller”

so it is no different on emulator

hmm not really, I think Walter is right. I have just made a short test with TAS input and I set it on full diagonal, and it registered at 4 / 5 (full diagonal should be 7/7 )

Then even your tool is obsolete.

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ALAKTORN Myth Offline Resident weeaboo ate 6518 donuts Italy - Viserba Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16210 - 04/27/13 at 08:29:36 it’s funny to see that Walter is always right in the end that sounds pretty ridiculous though, borderline glitch in the program…
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Re: Official WRs topic
Reply #16211 - 04/27/13 at 08:58:56

blahpy wrote on 04/26/13 at 14:16:36:

Rhodechill wrote on 04/26/13 at 14:09:23:

hahaae wrote on 04/25/13 at 20:44:46:

Umm... what?

What I am saying is all that extra space that the Wii Wheel has in terms of movement don't actually DO ANYTHING to the bike. It doesn't do anything different that any other control scheme can do.

u dun goofed rhode

I'll be honest now. I was stubbornly insisting that the other guys were wrong because I'm tired of the community making assumptions that something is faster/works without evidence. So now that I've got you guys to actually test it out and prove it, I'm satisfied.

I'm not saying I knew it all along, but I wasn't going to assume the Wheel had more movements than other controllers without proof. I wasn't sure what to expect.

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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:

Syzygy [Tim] you are a fucking milkface i like to punch you in your fucking milkface ..

Why'd you cut holes in the face of your moon base? Don't you know about the temperature change?

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Blackyboi King Offline fell 4679 times for marty Austria Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16212 - 04/29/13 at 05:49:13 (Sorry, this msg is handicapped. It was probably crap, anyway.)
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Fox Elite Offline seen 4284 mj vids Norway Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16214 - 05/01/13 at 10:54:00 TF Flap: 35.098
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Re: Official WRs topic
Reply #16216 - 05/01/13 at 18:27:16

From Dasher's comment:

"ALAKTORN wrote on 04/27/13 at 08:46:52:
I see what you’re saying and GCN inputs are the exact same as the Wiimote’s, what you’re being restricted by is the physical plastic surrounding the analogue stick, not “what the Wii sees you as using for controller”

so it is no different on emulator

hmm not really, I think Walter is right. I have just made a short test with TAS input and I set it on full diagonal, and it registered at 4 / 5 (full diagonal should be 7/7 )"

Look at this link: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-f0vfh3Mccv8/TkWX2HWAbrI/AAAAAAAAFj0/SxqRy7v8pHg/s16...

TAS Input on Dolphin emulator allows you to go outside the circle where GCN Controllers are limited. Wii Wheel's controls work within the square. So does TAS input. That means a Mushroom Gorge glitch TAS is possible. It will be harder to do than wii wheel. People are just making excuses as to why its not possible b/c they think the glitch is too hard and don't want to do it.

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Nosey Legend Offline MKSC best game helped 5217 people UK Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16218 - 05/02/13 at 10:12:16 Fuck, loving the WR activity atm, keep it up everyone! Fox, is that your first WR? I think you have ER on GV no-sc no rock hop right?
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Re: Official WRs topic
Reply #16219 - 05/02/13 at 10:29:35

Lukas wrote on 05/01/13 at 18:27:16:

People are just making excuses as to why its not possible b/c they think the glitch is too hard and don't want to do it.

Not really. Actually, like you just did, people are just throwing arguments saying if it's possible or not without any evidence. I think I have been the only person to test it and AFTER THAT saying that it's not possible..

Don't take what I'm saying personally by the way, I'm answering to everybody that have done that.

Lukas wrote on 05/01/13 at 18:27:16:

TAS Input on Dolphin emulator allows you to go outside the circle where GCN Controllers are limited. Wii Wheel's controls work within the square. So does TAS input. That means a Mushroom Gorge glitch TAS is possible.

That seems reasonable, but it's actually wrong.

TAS input allows you to go outside the circle limits, yeah, and in many games, that means having an advantage over GCN controller limits. But it doesn't seem to be the case in MKW.

I obviously tested to go outside of those limits, trying a full diagonal input, (as I said here: )

MKDasher wrote on 04/27/13 at 08:17:14:

I set it on full diagonal, and it registered at 4 / 5

the game registered it as 4 / 5 anyway, meaning that, with TAS input controller its possible to set the GCN controller to a full diagonal position, but it will not be registered as such anyway, and that seems to be due to the way MKW reads inputs.

So, or that is right, and a new wiimote tas input is needed, or its wrong, and it would mean the current TAS input is just wrong and has to be redone, but anyway with the current TAS input its not possible to set full diagonal inputs.

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Lukas Karter Offline 4274 days karting Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16220 - 05/02/13 at 22:17:51 Does Dolphin have Wiimote TAS input or just GCN? If it does, then would it be possible to mimic the necessary diagonal movement?
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Sorozone NinjaSorozone Offline Soro 5949 days karting Arizona Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16221 - 05/03/13 at 01:05:31 You guys should move this discussion to the TAS thread.
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Luke B Elite Offline well would you look at that 4556 days karting Ireland Gender:	Re: Official WRs topic Reply #16223 - 05/04/13 at 05:04:28 the teacher will not be outdone by his students it seems
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