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KillerMapper Karter Offline MK Fan worships 6166 kartgods Paris - France Gender:	About 50/60 Hz 02/28/08 at 06:56:35 You know all that the Wii can handle 50Hz and 60Hz mode. So will you add 2 categories in the site like for MKDD? Also the Wii have another mode, the "HD" one (it's not really HD lol). Is this mode different than the 50Hz and 60Hz too? If yes, do you will add one more category?
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Ostro King Offline Kris helped 7400 people Germany, Bremen Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #1 - 02/28/08 at 06:58:30 It was mentioned in another topic, there should be 2 rankings then. HD is just better resolution, no speed/framerate change
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KillerMapper Karter Offline MK Fan 6166 days karting Paris - France Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #2 - 02/28/08 at 07:18:50 Ok.
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Re: About 50/60 Hz
Reply #3 - 02/29/08 at 06:00:11

Has anyone considered that there can't possibly be any speed difference between 50 and 60Hz for this game?

Why? Because MKWii is online. Think about it. How could a 50Hz player race a 60Hz player if the games are different speeds? It wouldn't work properly. It would lead to no end of strange situations in online races.

It is possible to equalize the speed of 50 and 60Hz (Sega used to do it) but Nintendo have absolutely no history of doing this. Too much effort for them to optimize the game for 50Hz. Therefore I'm guessing that MKWii will be a 60Hz only game in Europe.

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Ostro King Offline Kris 7400 days karting Germany, Bremen Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #4 - 02/29/08 at 06:10:23 Is Mario Strikers a 60Hz only? If not, question answered
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Reply #5 - 02/29/08 at 09:22:14

It turns out that Mario Strikers EU supports both 50 & 60Hz modes. This indicates that there is in fact no difference in speed between 50/60Hz. How else could a 50Hz player play wi-fi with a 60Hz player?

It is also worth mentioning that European Wii games do not have a Hz selection screen like Gamecube games. The Hz is selected instead from the Wii settings menu. This is further evidence that there is no gameplay difference between 50/60Hz on Wii games. It's the same game; it is only the screen refresh rate that is being changed now.

Two charts might not be required after all

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KillerMapper Karter Offline MK Fan seen 6166 mj vids Paris - France Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #6 - 02/29/08 at 09:56:57 I hope
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Ostro King Offline Kris ate 7400 donuts Germany, Bremen Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #7 - 02/29/08 at 10:17:36 Either that way or it is slower and you're forced to play vs. other 50Hz players. Let's hope there's no difference at all, only for the eyes
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Reply #8 - 02/29/08 at 10:18:29

I played wario ware smooth moves in 50hz at one point and it felt slightly slower. I think it depends on the game

For online there is a chance that 50hz people just only match up with 50hz people, but i don't know. I guess there's a bigger chance that at least all online games are the same speed and different screen refresh rate as Macaque said.
It could be tested pretty easily by matching 2 people using different hertz up online.

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Reply #9 - 02/29/08 at 10:36:23

I don't think there will be a speed difference because of the downloadable TT ghosts feature. It wouldn't make sense for an American to download a Japanese ghost that was done at 50Hz, then see it finish at a different time in 60Hz. It would have to be the same speed to make any sense... unless they really separate 50 and 60Hz for everything.

Edit: Nevermind, I have no clue what I'm talking about Smiley

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Ostro King Offline Kris punched 7400 kiddies Germany, Bremen Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #10 - 02/29/08 at 10:46:15 Japan is 60Hz too and you can load 50Hz ghosts on 60Hz games without any problems (at least I did so on MKDD)
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stelzig Legend Offline punched 7225 kiddies Arhus, Denmark Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #11 - 02/29/08 at 11:15:56 Yeah there is no problem with playing 60hz ghosts on 50hz and vice versa. The ghost is just slowed down/speed up as well as everything else in the game (it just shows the same frames faster so duh )
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Moritz King Offline Owns all Mario Kart Games 7683 days karting Guaíra - PR, Brasil Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #12 - 02/29/08 at 11:46:10 I was thinking about it too. But I would ask why will we have rankings for Mario Kart Wii on this site if we gonna have official world ranking in the game? Moritz
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stelzig Legend Offline drank 7225 beers Arhus, Denmark Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #13 - 02/29/08 at 11:48:10 We'll most likely have more stats on this site compared to the wi-fi rankings.
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Ostro King Offline Kris 7400 days karting Germany, Bremen Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #14 - 02/29/08 at 11:53:55 + Matchups and all I think Nintendo will do something like showing the top10 of each track only.
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Nicola Titan Offline MKDS will never die! 6910 sex records Italy Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #15 - 02/29/08 at 11:58:40 Who cares about online TT rankings? Considering how bad Nintendo WFC is, it will take just a month or two to have them full of fake times.
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Etch sage Offline 3.0+1.0=CUTE 6964 time runner-up	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #16 - 02/29/08 at 13:15:46 Nicola wrote on 02/29/08 at 11:58:40: Who cares about online TT rankings? Considering how bad Nintendo WFC is, it will take just a month or two to have them full of fake times. No matter how hard they try, someone is bound to find a way.
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stelzig Legend Offline helped 7225 people Arhus, Denmark Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #17 - 02/29/08 at 14:04:30 Nicola wrote on 02/29/08 at 11:58:40: Who cares about online TT rankings? Considering how bad Nintendo WFC is, it will take just a month or two to have them full of fake times. The wii has had online for a very long time now. No signs of any type of hack has appeared yet.
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Re: About 50/60 Hz
Reply #18 - 02/29/08 at 14:32:02

stelzig wrote on 02/29/08 at 14:04:30:

Nicola wrote on 02/29/08 at 11:58:40:

Who cares about online TT rankings?

Considering how bad Nintendo WFC is, it will take just a month or two to have them full of fake times.

The wii has had online for a very long time now. No signs of any type of hack has appeared yet.

Because there aren't TT charts, IMHO with them things will change a bit.

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Moritz King Offline Owns all Mario Kart Games 7683 days karting Guaíra - PR, Brasil Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #19 - 02/29/08 at 14:39:35 Sorry, but MK Wii will not be the first game with online rankings, lots of games have this feature, and all is working fine. Moritz
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Reply #20 - 02/29/08 at 14:43:31

I think Nintendo will do something like showing the top10 of each track only.

I think you're wrong there. Didn't you see that screen shots of hundreds of Miis on page, and if you move your cursor of that Mii it's time and name appears?

Edit: This one - http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/viewer.php?mode=article&id=6764

stelzig wrote on 02/29/08 at 11:58:40:

The wii has had online for a very long time now. No signs of any type of hack has appeared yet.

I do know of some hacks for the Wii but I'm unsure if it affects online play.

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Nicola Titan Offline MKDS will never die! helped 6910 people Italy Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #21 - 02/29/08 at 14:46:22 Moritz wrote on 02/29/08 at 14:39:35: Sorry, but MK Wii will not be the first game with online rankings, lots of games have this feature, and all is working fine. Moritz I hope it will be the same for MKWii.
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Moritz King Offline Owns all Mario Kart Games 7683 days karting Guaíra - PR, Brasil Gender:	Re: About 50/60 Hz Reply #22 - 02/29/08 at 14:58:16 Ostro wrote on 02/29/08 at 11:53:55: I think Nintendo will do something like showing the top10 of each track only. Based on others games, they will, just a top 10 or 20 and the 10 top and bottom of ur record. But based on that shot, I hope MK Wii will be diferent. Does anybody here played Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games? Moritz
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Re: About 50/60 Hz
Reply #23 - 02/29/08 at 16:41:38

Nicola wrote on 02/29/08 at 14:32:02:

stelzig wrote on 02/29/08 at 14:04:30:

Nicola wrote on 02/29/08 at 11:58:40:

Who cares about online TT rankings?

Considering how bad Nintendo WFC is, it will take just a month or two to have them full of fake times.

The wii has had online for a very long time now. No signs of any type of hack has appeared yet.

Because there aren't TT charts, IMHO with them things will change a bit.

Why? There's still online rankings in the other games as well. Things which didn't get hacked.

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Re: About 50/60 Hz
Reply #24 - 03/01/08 at 22:53:51

They might not have been hacked because no one wanted to hack them. If no one plays the game to know that you have an awesome time (although hacked), they're not going to want to the bother of hacking it. Theres been heaps of games which have online rankings, but none of them are very popular.. MKwii will be much more popular, so we might see some people actually trying to hack the leaderboards unfortunatley. With the wii homebrew scene getting bigger and bigger each week now who knows what we can expect. So its allways good to have this site to fall back on

I really doubt there will be any speed differnce, its online after all. I play guitar hero on 50hz somtimes and dont notice any changes in speeds.

One big leaderboard FTW! Grin

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