Ok, I've been watching the speed address for MKSC (thanks for finding it again fried), and have come up with some basic information on all of the characters, involving top speed with shrooms, mt's, and normal driving.

Ok, so here it is.

Top speed (Normal)
Bowser - 1102-1104
D.K - 1098-1100
Wario - 1094-1096
Luigi - 1092-1094
Mario - 1090-1092
Peach - 1086-1088
Toad - 1086-1088
Yoshi - 1084-1086  

Top speed (Single MT)
Bowser - 1282-1284
D.K - 1278-1280
Wario - 1274-1276
Luigi - 1272-1274
Mario - 1270-1272
Peach - 1266-1268
Toad - 1266-1268
Yoshi - 1264-1266

Top speed (Shroom)
All characters - 2016

Ok, now for some basic explanation.

The normal top speed oscillates between the three numbers (In Bowser's case 1102, 1103, and 1104) in a specific pattern.
The specific pattern (in Bowser's case) is 1102, 1103, 1104, 1103, 1103, 1104, 1103, 1104. (replace the numbers with the specific characters numbers to see the pattern for them) When it reaches the last number the pattern repeats itself.

Now, the top MT speed doesn't actually change in itself, what changes is the timing that you release the MT. If you release the MT on the frame where you are at the highest speed, you will get the highest speed out of your MT (in Bowser's case 1284).

Your odds for hitting each specific speed is as follows:

Fastest MT speed - 3/8
Average MT speed - 4/8
Lowest MT speed - 1/8

Finally, as you can see in the Shroom speed, all characters have the exact same top speed for shrooms!

Going by this information, all characters are relatively fast, but the some characters are totally useless, such as Yoshi, Mario, and Wario because their counterparts are faster. (lightweight, middleweight, heavyweight)

Well, that's all the information for now. Fried will probably bring you more in depth information tommorow. Ciao!

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Michael F wrote on 01/26/08 at 13:54:58:

This is actually very important - i think we should put this info somewhere linked off the main page or something.

I would have assumed you could get higher MT speeds doing that, but I only took into account the maximum speed of one MT

I have a question:

Is Toad "starting accelleration" faster than Bowser's top speed?

Or are they equal?

Nicola wrote on 01/26/08 at 15:27:53:


Acceleration and speed are two different things, so you can't compare them.  If you meant Bowser's top acceleration, then yes, all characters have the same peak acceleration of 21.  Toad starts off faster, and it takes Bowser 1.81 seconds to overtake Toad in speed, and 6.65 seconds to overtake Toad in distance.  You can see the speed of each character at each time in the time vs. speed graph.  I cut the graph off at 2.33 seconds to make it easier to see, but if you want to see the whole thing, the full graph is in the excel sheet.

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With a rocket boost, all characters accelerate to 1200 at the same rate.  In real scenarios, Bowser has the best acceleration, because your speed will rarely drop below 700 unless you fall off the track.  However, Bowser also gets slowed down more when he drives offroad, so maybe it balances out.  If you need to drive offroad a lot, then a lighter character is probably better.  I haven't tested offroad speed yet.  Different offroads slow you down by different amounts.  Does anyone have any preference about where I test it?

Wario being useless? I use him all the time on tracks where Bowser is a little too "heavy"-- the offroad in SG, any track with sharp turns, and RR when I need to turn sharply in the air. He may be a heavyweight, but he's still lighter than Bowser.

I know, but doesn't Wario give you better handling and off-road speed than DK? He's the lightest of the heavyweights so if Mario is too slow and DK/Bowser doesn't negotiate the course well, Wario is your happy medium between the two...

So this means that Bowser/DK is fastest on LC, despite all the speed they lose when they go through the grass to cut through that gap in the barrier (near the end of the track)?

I actually used the namesake Luigi on LC, I lost too much speed doing the barrier cut with the heavyweights.

I could just be shrooming in the wrong place-- I use it to recover speed halfway around one of the hairpin turns (in the grass, of course)

Ah, and I thought offroad gas-releasing was only applicable in SMK. I was also thinking of shroomsliding through that gap as well to save time with Bowser.

karterfreak wrote on 01/29/09 at 20:51:40:


Except MAYBE SGB and SG. The tracks that have a fair bit of off-road.

Alright, so this is what the game shows you for Bowser his stats:


But Bowsers actual stats should be this:



These are Toad his stats in the game:


But they actually should be this:



It's pretty funny to see the programmers screwed the stats up this big.

Nicola wrote on 02/03/14 at 02:56:49:


True, but I used this as reference for editing the picture:

Top speed (Normal)
Bowser - 1102-1104
D.K - 1098-1100
Wario - 1094-1096
Luigi - 1092-1094
Mario - 1090-1092
Peach - 1086-1088
Toad - 1086-1088
Yoshi - 1084-1086  

Top speed (Single MT)
Bowser - 1282-1284
D.K - 1278-1280
Wario - 1274-1276
Luigi - 1272-1274
Mario - 1270-1272
Peach - 1266-1268
Toad - 1266-1268
Yoshi - 1264-1266

:p

Olifré wrote on 02/03/14 at 05:54:56:


Yeah, what I mean is that what the game states would make sense if Speed was the same as Acceleration, since Toad accelerates way faster than Bowser in the first moments.
The game's stats are just rather messed up, anyway...