I just tried MC1 NTSC after some CI2 where I cut the "choco" after the second corner (with a non-NBT boost, of course). I made a wide third corner and turned back (like a normal non-NBT boost), cut the sand and got 11"84!!! So: should it be allowed for non-NBT racing or is this NBT? I couldn't find a topic about it and the non-NBT rules says that it should be allowed.

A vid (the second lap):

MC1 11"84

Please comment.

Good lap! But yeah that is NBT.

Alvin plays NBT now. Hypocrite.

Yes Alvin that is NBT.

As per conversation earlier, i thought you meant something on first corner similar to the way Michael Liem used to do years back when he first broke 1'00 barrier. you jump over the first corner but dont boost across it.

But yeah now that you are playing some NBT u can hit some really fast times  

Alvin van Asselt wrote on 01/18/08 at 23:59:01:


Ok cool, stick to Non-NBT

... but you do know how to NBT now    

*Sees a future NBT champion in the making... cough cough*

Alvin, you're patetic when you act like this.

When I see this, I really want to say a bad word. But my name isn't Chris Clark

Anyway, tried this again but couldn't get any faster than 12"14...

Yeah, it's not cheating. You've chosen to not modify your controller, and not use NBT. That doesn't mean it's cheating. IMO adding NBT adds a whole new dimension to this game, and makes it have much more replay value. It's not cheating when you have a large amount of people doing it.

Read this: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cheat

Definition 5.

It's not against the rules to NBT, so it's not cheating. When you choose to only play Non-NBT, you have to accept the fact that you will never reach the very top of the rankings. That's just how it works. That's why there's a Non-NBT site.

Just stop complaining about the advantages of NBT, it isn't an advantage, it's an alternate way to play the game that happens to be faster.

Alvin van Asselt wrote on 01/20/08 at 02:23:41:


NBT isn't a glitch either... boosting after a long slide was intended to be available when the game was created... therefor, zigzagging is just using this 'intended boost' in a better way to make faster times by cutting corners... a glitch would be something that happens with the game that isn't supposed to happen.

No idea... thats is a glitch, but what has it got to do with every other track in the game... this doesn't change the fact that zigzagging isn't a glitch, the IB has nothing to do with zigzagging.

Agreed Pierre, it is a diversity for one track, each track has different approaches and driving styles anyway. Some have platform jumps, ice jumps, lots of grass to NBT across, or just corner gaps to jump (RR). So this one with a bit of IB and LB'ing is fine.

Happy karting weekend to all

Alvin van Asselt wrote on 01/26/08 at 10:12:39:


On CI2 non-nbt you can't release A to be considered non-nbt and you can't reach the end of the lake to be non-nbt