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Rainbow Road Cash Bounty (Read 4419 times)
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Reply #25 -
01/10/08 at 18:28:00
Sorry for the double post, but I got some good/bad news for you people trying to beat Hirano's RR time.
Good news: It is beatable.
Bad news: Only if you drive a next to perfect race. I can say this because I TAS'ed the 3-lap after a few people saying they wouldnt try until they knew it was actually beatable.
My TAS time (using Bowser, I'm going to retry with Toad afterwards) - 0'34'48
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Reply #26 -
01/10/08 at 18:37:31
Matt Ellis wrote
on 01/10/08 at 18:28:00:
My TAS time (using Bowser, I'm going to retry with Toad afterwards) -
0'34'48
Hmmm I don't think this could encourage people to try to beat Hirano's time...
Thanks for making the TAS anyway, it is very useful
Keep us informed of the results with other characters
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Re: Rainbow Road Cash Bounty
Reply #27 -
01/10/08 at 19:15:36
Matt Ellis wrote
on 01/10/08 at 18:28:00:
Sorry for the double post, but I got some good/bad news for you people trying to beat Hirano's RR time.
Good news: It is beatable.
Bad news: Only if you drive a next to perfect race. I can say this because I TAS'ed the 3-lap after a few people saying they wouldnt try until they knew it was actually beatable.
My TAS time (using Bowser, I'm going to retry with Toad afterwards) - 0'34'48
Can you post the video?
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Reply #28 -
01/10/08 at 23:01:02
Matt Ellis wrote
on 01/10/08 at 18:28:00:
My TAS time (using
Bowser
, I'm going to retry with Toad afterwards) - 0'34'48
That's a great news if we count that you used Bowser!
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Reply #29 -
01/11/08 at 00:51:28
Cool, I will also give this a shot
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My own time is 1.5 sec behind but using a slightly different strat.. (vid in sig). Might be able to pull something off if I used his strat... does anyone know how much time approx it saves?
Btw, what is a TAS? Sorry for being nub lol, I haven't touched the game in ages and aren't aware of these terms -_-.
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01/11/08 at 01:14:27
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My own time is 1.5 sec behind but using a slightly different strat.. (vid in sig). Might be able to pull something off if I used his strat... does anyone know how much time approx it saves?
I'm not sure, but if I had to guess I'd say about .3 per lap.
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Btw, what is a TAS? Sorry for being nub lol, I haven't touched the game in ages and aren't aware of these terms -_-.
A TAS is a speedrun made with save states and slow-motion. More information here:
http://tasvideos.org/Glossary.html#ToolAssistedSpeedrunTas
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Re: Rainbow Road Cash Bounty
Reply #31 -
01/11/08 at 01:16:49
TAS = Tool-Assisted Speed Run
While constructing these, you are allowed to use techniques not otherwise at your disposal, such as savestates, (for infinite retries of a specific part) frame advance or any similar fashion of slowing down speed to overcome human limitations. If the player does his or her job well; Applies the best strategies flawlessly executed, it will be a good, not to say perfect indicator of what is truly possible.
Here is a link to Biqwit's site, where you can find many entertaining videos and explanations.
http://tasvideos.org/
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Reply #32 -
01/11/08 at 05:29:08
Don't seems so hard to do until turn on the GBA
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Reply #33 -
01/11/08 at 06:13:54
I just TAS'd the first lap and got 11.85 (.03 faster than Matt). Imo my whole lap looks cleaner than Matt's, so I can't figure out why I gained so little time. If I figure that out, then maybe another .1 can come off.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=59KOnx75sJU
Btw I tried to start the lap with ticking so I could shroom earlier, but I couldn't get it to work. Every time I tried, I lost speed at the moment I touched the bumper. If anyone can get this to work, it would probably save at least .1 on lap 1.
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Reply #34 -
01/11/08 at 06:21:42
Where did you see Matt one?
edit: nice TAS.. even if the final straight is too close to the wall and will likely slow down the sencond lap.
edit2: thanks
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Reply #35 -
01/11/08 at 06:24:34
termoPilucco wrote
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Where did you see Matt one?
He sent it to me. I'll upload it to my site soon.
Edit:
http://wrvids.com/Mario%20Kart/MKSC/TAS/rr-3448-Ellis(tas).vbm
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Reply #36 -
01/11/08 at 12:29:14
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Reply #37 -
01/12/08 at 06:05:21
A friend and me decided to go for the WR. So far, we can do the first 3 jumps..
But practise makes perfect, so who knows. And a year is a lot of time..
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Reply #38 -
01/12/08 at 06:28:19
Michael F wrote
on 01/11/08 at 06:13:54:
Imo my whole lap looks cleaner than Matt's, so I can't figure out why I gained so little time. If I figure that out, then maybe another .1 can come off.
Before the second SC, you hit only two zippers: maybe you loose some time before the jump (the speedometer is at the max, but it's not accurate when you shroom). And maybe that's why you can land closer to the right edge than Matt.
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Btw I tried to start the lap with ticking so I could shroom earlier, but I couldn't get it to work. Every time I tried, I lost speed at the moment I touched the bumper. If anyone can get this to work, it would probably save at least .1 on lap 1.
I tried too, failing.
I tried both the left wall and the right one.
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Reply #39 -
01/12/08 at 07:06:00
I have to try...
The most important before all, is to be sure which character is the best ! TAS can help us.
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Reply #40 -
01/12/08 at 07:24:25
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And maybe that's why you can land closer to the right edge than Matt.
Landing close to the right edge is done by pressing left will still in the air, to straighten out the kart (the same way as you would straighten out when you go around normal corners).
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Reply #41 -
01/26/08 at 08:53:23
Dang Hirano is good, his strat isn't too different but sooo much more difficult lol.
My best attempt atm:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IvsEjLtoc88
Now just need to cut off 0.6s... 3 lap it... and record live
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... :'(
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Reply #42 -
01/26/08 at 09:12:49
good try. but you are too slow.
my best opener was 12"38 which is also sloooow
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Reply #43 -
01/26/08 at 10:33:19
I picked up the game today for the first time in 2-3 years... I'll get there
. If not, I wanna at least beat my old time hehe.
And nice opener, I'd use it for tips but can't control bowser at all xD.
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01/26/08 at 10:41:34
good luck
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Reply #45 -
01/27/08 at 04:45:08
For the second half of the sc, it seems that you don't even need to touch the second zipper to make the jump (just need to hop from first to third zipper to maintain speed). Got a 12"43 opener, a little faster but still laughable compared to Hirano's 11"91
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Reply #46 -
01/27/08 at 05:19:00
yeah, we know that you don't need the 2nd arrow.
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Reply #47 -
01/27/08 at 06:31:17
Darkenedjib wrote
on 01/27/08 at 04:45:08:
For the second half of the sc, it seems that you don't even need to touch the second zipper to make the jump (just need to hop from first to third zipper to maintain speed). Got a 12"43 opener, a little faster but still laughable compared to Hirano's 11"91
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Try using the shroom a little earlier. You used it too late in your vid.
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Reply #48 -
01/27/08 at 07:58:28
Michael F wrote
on 01/27/08 at 06:31:17:
Darkenedjib wrote
on 01/27/08 at 04:45:08:
For the second half of the sc, it seems that you don't even need to touch the second zipper to make the jump (just need to hop from first to third zipper to maintain speed). Got a 12"43 opener, a little faster but still laughable compared to Hirano's 11"91
.
Try using the shroom a little earlier. You used it too late in your vid.
Oh of course
. I got a 12"30 opening earlier (
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qXSwU5duXc4
) and spent ages trying to figure out how I was so much slower than Hirano. Thanks for that
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@Boom3r: lol sorry, I need to read forums more.
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Reply #49 -
01/27/08 at 08:44:10
Darkenedjib wrote
on 01/27/08 at 07:58:28:
Michael F wrote
on 01/27/08 at 06:31:17:
Darkenedjib wrote
on 01/27/08 at 04:45:08:
For the second half of the sc, it seems that you don't even need to touch the second zipper to make the jump (just need to hop from first to third zipper to maintain speed). Got a 12"43 opener, a little faster but still laughable compared to Hirano's 11"91
.
Try using the shroom a little earlier. You used it too late in your vid.
Oh of course
. I got a 12"30 opening earlier (
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qXSwU5duXc4
) and spent ages trying to figure out how I was so much slower than Hirano. Thanks for that
.
@Boom3r: lol sorry, I need to read forums more.
You still use the shroom slightly too late. You should use it on the yellow tile.
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