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Rainbow Road Cash Bounty
01/09/08 at 01:04:16
 
I made this challenge with the goal to have a well proven WR in Rainbow Road: spread the word and tell about it to everyone you think is a talented player.

EDIT:
A big THANKS to Michael Fried for the help and the english correction

EDIT2:
If you have a good quality video, do not use site like youtube that will degrade it.
Just ZIP/RAR it and upload it in some filesharing services like http://www.rapidshare.com (limit is 100mb) or http://www.megaupload.com (limit is 500mb)

A PDF copy of the following text (for easier spreading):
http://www.unbelsito.com/mksc/challenge.pdf

Mario Kart Super Circuit Cash Bounty:
Track: Rainbow Road
Goal: Finish the race (3 laps) in less than 34''63, using any character or driving path.
Prize: 100 Euros
Deadline: End of 2008 (GMT)

Hardware requirements:
You need two things:
1.      Any official Nintendo video game console capable of playing a GBA game cartridge: Nintendo GBA, Nintendo GBA SP, Nintendo GB Micro, Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, Nintendo GameBoy Player (connected to a Nintendo Gamecube).
2.      An official Nintendo cartridge of "Mario Kart Super Circuit" (EU or USA version) or "Mario Kart Advance" (JP version).

Note: You may not use any kind of emulator or unofficial (not made by Nintendo) platform, but you may use an emulator for experimenting or training if you like.

Proof requirements:
The cash prize might encourage some people to try to cheat, so the proof requirements are stricter than usual:
•      Film everything in TV Definition (PAL/NTSC/Secam cameras) or better (HD cameras).  Low definition 320x256 webcams are not allowed.
•      The video must include synchronous audio.
•      The resulting video must be bright and smooth enough for the viewer to see the race time throughout the entire run.
•      Before filming the replay, film the handheld from all sides to show that no device is connected.
•      Then film a handwritten paper with your name or nickname, to prevent other people from claiming your video as their own.
•      Then film the end screen of the race, where the time is flashing.
•      Then choose the “View Replay” option, and film the replay of the entire run.
•      Wait for the game to display the lap times, and then you may stop filming.

If you use an analog camera, you must acquire your video with a digital capturing device. If you do so, you must use a common encoder (DivX, Xvid, H264, Mpg), maintain a quality close to the original source (resolution, fps), and use a bitrate of at least 3000 KBit/s.
The resulting video must be bright and smooth enough for the viewer to read the race time throughout the entire run.

In order to avoid someone hacking the cartridge memory, you must be able to demonstrate your skills in a live video, where we can see your hands moving on the GBA while you are playing Rainbow Road.
•      In the live video, you must race against the ghost of the record that you filmed previously.
•      For at least one lap, you must get a time no more than 0''10 slower than the ghost.
•      The live video must be bright and smooth enough for the viewer to see that your hand movements are synchronized with the kart movements.

The two video files must be sent before the deadline.

Validation and prize:
Videos will be validated or invalidated in the order of arrival (reply to this topic with the video link for reference).
The reward is only for the first validated time faster than 34''63.
The prize is 100 Euro.  Today this is worth 147 Dollars, but if the conversion rate changes, the prize will still be 100 Euro.
The prize will be delivered to your PayPal account after the validation.

Strategy tips:
The record to break is the one filmed here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFnNByMJ_2E
We think this is the best strategy, so you should try to perform it better.
I think that the best characters for this challenge are Toad, Luigi and
Peach, but feel free to experiment with others.

If you are not familiar with the game, you just need to know a few things, because the strategy does not requires a great knowledge of the game's techniques:
•      Use the rocket start (start pressing the gas about halfway between the second and third lights, or slightly later)
•      Land on the bumpers on the edge of the roads to prolong the turbo effect of the mushrooms.
•      Release the gas while in the air to have better control of the kart.
•      While in the air, you can press the sliding button (R) while turning in order to face the right direction, and still land far enough to reach the road.
•      Good luck.
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Reply #1 - 01/09/08 at 03:45:05
 
Awesome, I really hope someone will beat it! Not even because of the cool cash prize, but more to finally have a well proven WR on RR.

Stellmacher looks in the best position at the moment, but there's still such a long way to go even for him, considering how strong the Hirano run looks. Him and Pierre would be my main bets, though I'm still not entirely convinced that someone will beat it (though I really hope so). I'll give it a shot too once I feel confident enough about my MSKC ability, but I'm not overly optimistic about my chances.  Tongue
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Reply #2 - 01/09/08 at 04:44:33
 
I hope this challenge can focuses the attention even of new talented players on MKSC and the Mario kart community...
I even told about it at some friends that are very strong in simulative games like Forza Motorsport 2...



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Reply #3 - 01/09/08 at 06:37:57
 
I'm so going to try it..
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Reply #4 - 01/09/08 at 06:48:15
 
i'm ready for playing a lot.
made some laps with hirano's strat today but not very fast laps

i'll edit my post in a few minutes and add a 12"38 opener

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAyVubLgZSY
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Reply #5 - 01/09/08 at 06:57:28
 
Do not use your energy and your motivation soon... you have a lot of time and no competitors at the moment  Wink

I may try myself but my only goal is to get a sub 40 doing 3 laps like you already did, because i'm pretty sure i will never do the right strat 3/3.
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Reply #6 - 01/09/08 at 07:00:05
 
I would try if I were more talented at MKSC... Unfortunately I'm not. Sad So I'm already giving up, sorry...
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Reply #7 - 01/09/08 at 08:02:55
 
Neo, The Roger Federer of SMK wrote on 01/09/08 at 07:00:05:
I would try if I were more talented at MKSC... Unfortunately I'm not. Sad So I'm already giving up, sorry...


Florent, you are good enough to get this WR. You are 4th in the world at smk and best in the world on match race. Do it.
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Reply #8 - 01/09/08 at 08:09:13
 
You can get a very good pr even if you're not a great player. Look at my RR times, they're even better than yours.
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Reply #9 - 01/09/08 at 08:12:17
 
i really think this WR is unbeatable.

I don't see why my opener is 0"40 slower than Hirano's  Undecided
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Reply #10 - 01/09/08 at 08:29:55
 
-The most noticeable difference is Toad  Wink
-after the 2nd SC he lands closer to the zippers (and looses less speed).
-he starts turning and then sliding earlier than you in the final turn (look the kart orientation before the last bounce).

I dont know if there are other invisible differences...
Someone with enough motivation could try a lap with the emulator and see if is really possible to beat his time.
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Reply #11 - 01/09/08 at 12:05:15
 
f**k! i will lose more ranks on this track Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - 01/09/08 at 14:33:28
 
Boom3r wrote on 01/09/08 at 08:12:17:
i really think this WR is unbeatable.

I don't see why my opener is 0"40 slower than Hirano's  Undecided


Try going straight at the beginning, so you can use the shroom earlier.  Also as Luca said, start turning earlier for the last turn by doing midair slides.
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Reply #13 - 01/09/08 at 15:36:51
 
I will give it a try once I get some batteries lol
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Reply #14 - 01/09/08 at 17:26:46
 
I'm going for it. I need to improve my RR times anyway.

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termoPilucco wrote on 01/09/08 at 08:29:55:
-The most noticeable difference is Toad  Wink
-after the 2nd SC he lands closer to the zippers (and looses less speed).
-he starts turning and then sliding earlier than you in the final turn (look the kart orientation before the last bounce).

I dont know if there are other invisible differences...
Someone with enough motivation could try a lap with the emulator and see if is really possible to beat his time.


The 2nd lap is "02 slower than the third...so I guess it's possible to beat this.  Tongue
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Reply #15 - 01/10/08 at 00:46:56
 
chili wrote on 01/09/08 at 17:26:46:
The 2nd lap is "02 slower than the third...so I guess it's possible to beat this.  Tongue


In the third lap he lands closer to the right side of the circuit in the final straight because he does not need to turn and shroom lately.
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Reply #16 - 01/10/08 at 01:20:03
 
Can anyone beat this with an emulator? That way we know if it's possible or not?
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Reply #17 - 01/10/08 at 06:32:54
 
I don't even know....

Which emu I have to choose
How you can save stats
If I'm good enough to beat it..
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Reply #18 - 01/10/08 at 07:12:55
 
Alvin van Asselt wrote on 01/10/08 at 06:32:54:
I don't even know....

Which emu I have to choose
How you can save stats
If I'm good enough to beat it..

Same.
If someone told me how to do this I would give it a try.
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Reply #19 - 01/10/08 at 07:23:25
 
From one of my old posts:
What you need is a modified version of VBA emulator:
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2050

Then you need the MKSC romset (search on google 'mario kart super circuit rom gba' - linking a ROM is illegal even if we all have the original game)

Some very short instruction for VBA and other emulators:
http://tasvideos.org/UsingEmulatorTools.html

Keep in mind that is very difficult to play with the keyboard.
When i did my test i used the analog stick of a Dual Shock (Ps2 joypad).

As for unlocking RR, you need a save from one of the run you can find on internet:
http://tasvideos.org/872S.html

play it (you can use "space" to run the run very fast) and at the end you will have RR unlocked.


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a note: You may fail breaking the record even with the emulator...  the feeling is different: once i played Peach Circuit NONBT (w/o off road MT) and i was unable to get a time close to the one i already had playing in real time on the console...
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Reply #20 - 01/10/08 at 07:46:18
 
I all caused this because of the longest standing WR? Or was it an other cause?
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Reply #21 - 01/10/08 at 08:32:06
 
some reasons:
-break an historic record
-have a well proven record (this is the most important reason)
-have some attention on the MK(SC) community
-show that the World is bigger than the Japan alone Grin
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Reply #22 - 01/10/08 at 08:43:28
 
It's a beastly WR.  Wink

I will hazard a guess and say it can only be beat by hundredths, perhaps a tenth or a little more.

Is it even worth the time to try this strat with Bowser?

You are going full speed most of the time and that tighter turning helps with Toad.  I am assuming that's the best kart to use?
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Reply #23 - 01/10/08 at 09:06:10
 
I may try the opener lap (no more is on my possibilities ) with Luigi (he turns very tight) but i dont assure even i will finish the lap.
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Reply #24 - 01/10/08 at 15:50:50
 
I beat Hirano's opener with Bowser doing a TAS, but just barely...(11'88). How any human could drive so perfectly is unreal!  Lips Sealed I'm going to try the rest of the characters to see if I can drive better times with them. Maybe toad really is the fastest for RR?  Cheesy
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