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12/19/07 at 18:50:20
 
It's been awhile since the last topic, so I'm asking you all again:

Which is the strongest 3lap WR?
Which is the strongest flap WR?
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Re: New strongest WRs topic
Reply #1 - 12/19/07 at 19:33:16
 
3lap probably TB's DKP 3lap. I don't see anyone beating that anytime soon.

Flap I'd probably say either Habben's RR Flap, or TB's RCM Flap.
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Reply #2 - 12/19/07 at 20:57:09
 
Dark Ztar wrote on 12/19/07 at 19:33:16:
3lap probably TB's DKP 3lap. I don't see anyone beating that anytime soon.

Flap I'd probably say either Habben's RR Flap, or TB's RCM Flap.

RR flap won't be easy, just because of the rail shortcut. However, the rest of the run wasn't that spectacular, compared to what he CAN do. I see that one being somewhat easy to beat, IF the rail shortcut is hit.
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Reply #3 - 12/19/07 at 22:06:43
 
For 3lap I agree with Ted, DKP is really strong
For flap, I don't know, possibly Fabien's BP flap?
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Reply #4 - 12/20/07 at 00:30:58
 
johnboy81918 wrote on 12/19/07 at 20:57:09:
Dark Ztar wrote on 12/19/07 at 19:33:16:
3lap probably TB's DKP 3lap. I don't see anyone beating that anytime soon.

Flap I'd probably say either Habben's RR Flap, or TB's RCM Flap.

RR flap won't be easy, just because of the rail shortcut. However, the rest of the run wasn't that spectacular, compared to what he CAN do. I see that one being somewhat easy to beat, IF the rail shortcut is hit.

How often does that happen without a shroom? Roll Eyes

I say that because Josh did his time with the Standard RB, which, although he adapted very well to it, probably steadily lost ground to a BLS run that he could have done. Even when Danzee did both Sc's with the BLS, he came up over 0.800 seconds short of Josh's flap. I really don't see this record falling anytime soon.
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Reply #5 - 12/20/07 at 04:17:31
 
Giulio's DS 3lap and Fabien's BP flap.
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Reply #6 - 12/20/07 at 05:32:00
 
PresidentEvil wrote on 12/20/07 at 04:17:31:
Giulio's DS 3lap and Fabien's BP flap.


Lol that's exactly what I was thinking  Grin  Anyone for Michele's LC1 flap?  Tongue
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Reply #7 - 12/20/07 at 06:47:53
 
Timothy wrote on 12/20/07 at 05:32:00:
PresidentEvil wrote on 12/20/07 at 04:17:31:
Giulio's DS 3lap and Fabien's BP flap.


Lol that's exactly what I was thinking  Grin  Anyone for Michele's LC1 flap?  Tongue


TB1 can beat his DS time but Giulio cant beat his DKP.

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Flap = BP Flap Fabbiesaurus.
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Reply #8 - 12/20/07 at 07:04:23
 
:: Stevie :: wrote on 12/20/07 at 06:47:53:
Timothy wrote on 12/20/07 at 05:32:00:
PresidentEvil wrote on 12/20/07 at 04:17:31:
Giulio's DS 3lap and Fabien's BP flap.


Lol that's exactly what I was thinking  Grin  Anyone for Michele's LC1 flap?  Tongue


TB1 can beat his DS time but Giulio cant beat his DKP.

3lap = DKP 3lap Thomas
Flap = BP Flap Fabbiesaurus.


Quote the second, but i'm not sure about the first one  Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - 12/20/07 at 07:50:51
 
G-danzee wrote on 12/20/07 at 07:04:23:
:: Stevie :: wrote on 12/20/07 at 06:47:53:
Timothy wrote on 12/20/07 at 05:32:00:
PresidentEvil wrote on 12/20/07 at 04:17:31:
Giulio's DS 3lap and Fabien's BP flap.


Lol that's exactly what I was thinking  Grin  Anyone for Michele's LC1 flap?  Tongue


TB1 can beat his DS time but Giulio cant beat his DKP.

3lap = DKP 3lap Thomas
Flap = BP Flap Fabbiesaurus.


Quote the second, but i'm not sure about the first one  Roll Eyes


Well your right i think.

A strong Wr must be like 0´1 removed from their best splits.
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Reply #10 - 12/20/07 at 08:01:13
 
DKP 3- lap
BP flap  Undecided
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Reply #11 - 12/20/07 at 08:07:46
 
Dark Ztar wrote on 12/20/07 at 00:30:58:
Even when Danzee did both Sc's with the BLS, he came up over 0.800 seconds short of Josh's flap. I really don't see this record falling anytime soon.


You obviously did not watch it.  Giulio did not land on the road smoothly basically coming to a dead stop.  In Josh's run, he turns around way too late before doing the pipe sc and takes some crappy turns at the end.  If someone does this with standard rb or BLS and just finishes the run cleanly and performs the strat correctly can get close to sub 35.  This is a weak WR in my opinion.

About Fabien's BP flap, it looks strong but can any of these WR's be near perfection in just two years of playing?  If someone else gets a lucky time here they could very well beat it but I do not see many people trying.  Definitely one of the stronger WR's.

We still have not reached best splits on DKP 3lap and who is to say Ben won't sub 1'45 here too?  Sure it's a hard strat to perform but in terms of being perfect, we are not quite there yet.

The CM flap is done on lap 1 so it is already weak.  You can also add an extra mt starting on lap 2 so even if the current time is good and what not, we are not using the best possible strat most likely.

The shroom lap on DS 3lap was pretty slow compared to best splits so this WR can come down if someone else puts together a similar run with nicer splits.  Not maxed out yet but difficult to do with BLS.  I say around 1'30"0 - 1'30"25 and this will be a very strong record.

This is a topic for strongest WR's so I obviously don't consider nonprb times to be WR's.  These are barely played on and only players from this site compete on them unlike the real WR's which players all over the world have fought for since release in 2005.  Given how little they are played for, I would not say a lot of them are very strong or near potential.  If I had to choose some of the best, I would say Sascha's F8C and CI2 times, Fabien's PC flap, and Thomas' KB2 3lap.  Some are more improvable than others but these are pretty solid runs.  Sure, the other courses might be stronger but there is still some potential in strat or whatever.  The SG and LC2 times are not a pushover but for a longer course, there is more to perfect.

I think the YF flap is a pretty strong WR now.  For the 3lap, the strongest records are those where just one or two splits were a little slower than they should have been like BB 3lap, AF 3lap, DKP 3lap, DS 3lap etc.  I think Giulio's RR sc 3lap with just using the pipe sc is very strong but it can be beaten easily if you land the rail sc once.
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Reply #12 - 12/20/07 at 11:26:29
 
Dark Ztar wrote on 12/20/07 at 00:30:58:
johnboy81918 wrote on 12/19/07 at 20:57:09:
Dark Ztar wrote on 12/19/07 at 19:33:16:
3lap probably TB's DKP 3lap. I don't see anyone beating that anytime soon.

Flap I'd probably say either Habben's RR Flap, or TB's RCM Flap.

RR flap won't be easy, just because of the rail shortcut. However, the rest of the run wasn't that spectacular, compared to what he CAN do. I see that one being somewhat easy to beat, IF the rail shortcut is hit.

How often does that happen without a shroom? Roll Eyes

I say that because Josh did his time with the Standard RB, which, although he adapted very well to it, probably steadily lost ground to a BLS run that he could have done. Even when Danzee did both Sc's with the BLS, he came up over 0.800 seconds short of Josh's flap. I really don't see this record falling anytime soon.

Why do you have to hit the rail sc without shroom? For a BLS flap, why not hit rail with shroom, and do the other without? (I honestly don't know which is better to use the shroom on, so my thoughts could be completely wrong here)
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Reply #13 - 12/20/07 at 11:42:46
 
I would have thought that the pipe SC needs the shroom as you slow the kart down when turning, and need the boost to get up to speed quickly.  Rail SC, although extremely difficult, won't really be any slower without a shroom if done properly.  As far as I know anyway...  Tongue
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johnboy81918 wrote on 12/20/07 at 11:26:29:
Dark Ztar wrote on 12/20/07 at 00:30:58:
johnboy81918 wrote on 12/19/07 at 20:57:09:
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3lap probably TB's DKP 3lap. I don't see anyone beating that anytime soon.

Flap I'd probably say either Habben's RR Flap, or TB's RCM Flap.

RR flap won't be easy, just because of the rail shortcut. However, the rest of the run wasn't that spectacular, compared to what he CAN do. I see that one being somewhat easy to beat, IF the rail shortcut is hit.

How often does that happen without a shroom? Roll Eyes

I say that because Josh did his time with the Standard RB, which, although he adapted very well to it, probably steadily lost ground to a BLS run that he could have done. Even when Danzee did both Sc's with the BLS, he came up over 0.800 seconds short of Josh's flap. I really don't see this record falling anytime soon.

Why do you have to hit the rail sc without shroom? For a BLS flap, why not hit rail with shroom, and do the other without? (I honestly don't know which is better to use the shroom on, so my thoughts could be completely wrong here)

I was talking about the optimal time. Tongue

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Reply #15 - 12/20/07 at 22:18:20
 
johnboy81918 wrote on 12/20/07 at 11:26:29:
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johnboy81918 wrote on 12/19/07 at 20:57:09:
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3lap probably TB's DKP 3lap. I don't see anyone beating that anytime soon.

Flap I'd probably say either Habben's RR Flap, or TB's RCM Flap.

RR flap won't be easy, just because of the rail shortcut. However, the rest of the run wasn't that spectacular, compared to what he CAN do. I see that one being somewhat easy to beat, IF the rail shortcut is hit.

How often does that happen without a shroom? Roll Eyes

I say that because Josh did his time with the Standard RB, which, although he adapted very well to it, probably steadily lost ground to a BLS run that he could have done. Even when Danzee did both Sc's with the BLS, he came up over 0.800 seconds short of Josh's flap. I really don't see this record falling anytime soon.

Why do you have to hit the rail sc without shroom? For a BLS flap, why not hit rail with shroom, and do the other without? (I honestly don't know which is better to use the shroom on, so my thoughts could be completely wrong here)

Yeah, you do the second sc without a shroom easily, it just makes for slower exceleration when after you turn around. But if you get really good at turning around, its probly benifitial. I think the RR flap WR isnt too strong, but its probly going to be one of the hardest to beat because of the odds of making the jump. IMO, if you set your mind to it, anyone can make that jump...
Heck, even I got 35.851 and I suck at RR  Grin
I feel the BLS would be a better kart to do the WR if you could land the rail sc without the shroom.. I dont know. Never have been able to do that jump without the shroom.

I was expecting it to allready be beaten by now! Husky said himself he didnt feel it was his best, and at one stage we had about 3 double sc runs in a week!

Mabey everyone lost interest... I know I did  Undecided

hardest WRs; LM ones  Grin
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Reply #16 - 12/21/07 at 02:16:05
 
DKP 3lap for me are the strongest WR Grin
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Reply #17 - 12/21/07 at 02:42:22
 
RR SC 3lap and BP flap.
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Reply #18 - 12/21/07 at 05:12:25
 
YF flap and CM 3lap, I guess
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Reply #19 - 12/21/07 at 09:57:43
 
3 laps : F8C no prb  Cool
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Reply #20 - 12/21/07 at 12:09:17
 
I could beat Giulio's DS time, especially with his new strat, but that would take alot of time to do xD and Giulio will beat it afterwards anyway
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Reply #21 - 12/21/07 at 12:18:41
 
たべい・1 wrote on 12/21/07 at 12:09:17:
I could beat Giulio's DS time, especially with his new strat, but that would take alot of time to do xD and Giulio will beat it afterwards anyway


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Reply #22 - 12/22/07 at 12:53:34
 
3lap : F8C  Roll Eyes
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