As far as I know, the world records for RKB1 are below 8 seconds for 5-lap and 0"97 for F-lap.
Here is the basic 5-lap strategy: http://www6.ocn.ne.jp/~neka/movie/e11_nokobi1.mpg
I'm sure the WR is faster than this, but this video was already linked by Drew Blumfield elsewhere. (Thanks!)

I do agree that we need an "anything goes" category that allows both tricking and SCs, to have the fastest possible times tracked. (Perhaps we could also have a separate "Non-SC tricking" category if need be.)
I wouldn't count on it appearing in the near future, and I myself won't be responsible for such a section of the rankings, but I certainly wouldn't mind some discussion in a dedicated topic.

Andreas

Perhaps a separate site will be an appropriate forum for "Non-Shortcut tricking" times, but I feel that this site, if we are to call it official, definitive or leading by any definition in the Time Trialing aspect, needs to acknowledge the fastest possible times by tracking them.
The shortcut rankings - however subsidiary they may be conceived, are a necessary, if not vital, part of the site as whole. If anything, a Non-SC route system is per strict definition more arbitrary in dictating specific rules. Just adding this for perspective.

I personally believe that tricking and SCs might see a great deal of activity. It can be a nice change of pace from Non-SC driving, still maintaining a competitive edge.
I think a lot of people will play both, and I see no [theoretical] reason to steer away from the excellent precedent set for MK64.
This game also features the greatest amount of shortcuts and glitches in the series to date.

I can't estimate how much work would be necessary, and I won't put forth any demands with regards to its creation, but I'm positive would be a welcome and invigorating addition to the site.

Andreas

Hey guys

I got a question on Lakeside Park. I saw a vid for this last night, has to be one of the craziest strats ive ever seen lol. Anyway, when it comes to shrooming across the lake im falling short. I keep dropping in the water just a few inches from the shore. Is there any special tricks to doing this? Like gas releasing etc. Or do you just have to be incredibly precise and lucky? On the top 100 for this track, there are loads of people with sub 1.00 times so im guessing it isnt THAT had to do.

Cheers guys.

Cheers Andreas.

Im nailing it everytime now. Current pr there is now 56.10  

termoPilucco wrote on 08/27/07 at 06:08:29:

It's not allowed because it's possible to jump over the wall when shrooming there.

From the SC Description Page:
CCI

       * The underwater finish line trick.
       * Also forbidden is using a Mushroom to go through the gap in the wall to the left after the first bridge, since it is comparable to skipping boundaries.
       * Bouncing over barriers in the water to be towed further ahead is not allowed, regardless of how you do it.

i am with you matt,

and there is a update mistake. rDP3 5 lap and flap are sc times
im don´t know if this is the right topic, but can you please change it

Beautifully efficient strategy.

I'm leaning heavily towards classifying this as SC, mostly because of the double bounce and amount of track skipped. (The "normal" last shroomspot cuts a fair amount as well.) But combine the two points of the first sentence with the fact that it sends you over barriers in the water - and this may be just me - it feels very abusive overall.

In light of the nature of the current last shroom spot, I don't want single out a specific element that makes it SC, but especially considering it combines the three aforementioned points, it is very difficult to see it as Non-SC.
I could just reference the last paragraph in the In-depth rules, and call it SC, but I'm no one-man authority and a little more flexible than that.

It's so beatiful, still.  

Andreas

As for MKDS thread,  best RR MKSC strat is:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cFnNByMJ_2E

In the first jump you have to shroom and land exactly on the tight white border.
Is tighter as it seems and you have to timing very very well.
Landing on the white border is not enough, you have to do having the right direction and turning in the air because the next landing area is to close if you simply go straight (you cant choose how long is your jump, you have the make some air turn in orser to avoid going too far).
Following bounces are not that hard, until the second 13/14 of the video: you neeed good timing to take the accelerators while coming out from the right, and at second 14 i really dont know how to jump and land in the right way.
With a mushroom is really easy, because you can take the turn a bit wide and slide on air, but w/o mushroom you can barely land on the other side going straight. The problem is that you neeed to turn 90°.
I think this part is the most difficult of the track.
At the end in not very easy to land directly on the accelerators, but not hard as previous parts and it exists a alternative path that costs you only few hundredths  

BTW try it with a emulator, this is not a track that requires the full game knowlodgment..

The way you two put it, it seems the hardest MK strat ever. Is it the hardest MK strat ever?

Hey Luca, you might find these videos interesting.  

rail sc's - http://youtube.com/watch?v=ohlrj8fWiJU
pipe sc - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ynn-lXjaigs

To clarify, you would want to do the rail sc with no shroom and the pipe sc with the shroom for the flap.  For the 3lap, you would do the first lap the same as the flap.  For the last two laps you do both sc's each time, no shrooms of course.

I think nyko and danzee are working on getting a run where they use both SCs so there will probably be a vid of that soon.

I haven't played MKSC much, but here's a vid of my run on RR astro: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SSBzHpzs4ik
I used some time on this (and it was the best strategy i knew at the time) and i couldn't even get a run where i hit the zippers on all 3 laps... ;_; (In fact i didn't hit them on any lap in my PR run )

Edit: Looking at darkenjib's RR vid... Looks like i'm not the only one who hasn't submitted my MKSC times to the players page - 36.28: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xbYp7ItRIs&mode=related&search=

termoPilucco wrote on 10/05/07 at 00:52:59:


There is now  

Does anyone know which strat is used on RRR SC lap?

The WR is 5"15  with Luigi...
I know the SC that bring you near to the finishi line but it's not enough to get such fast time...
Any idea?