If you read Gregor's post you would have seen that he is not whining about not being selected; he was just voicing his opinion about the selection process as a whole.  I agree with what he said, i don't think that the selections were as good as they could have been.  Thats fine, i don't expect it to be perfect and I know you can't please everyone; The contest is underway, and I still am enjoying the contest; I think its a cool thing to do.  Like gregor said, maybe somethings will change for next time, thats all

For anyone criticizing the seletion process, that's all fine and well. I think if you want to criticize the process the best way to make a change would be to offer up a suggestion as to how it could be improved. However, I have yet to hear a suggestion of how we could have done that. So if you have any suggestions for how the selection of contestants in future contests can be improved then by all means...

Clark: the seeds were also determined by the selection comittee. Each member ranked the top 16 players in the field and then we shared them with each other. From there we took the people who had the most support from across the board on a purely numerical scale and then discussed or voted a tie-break on any close calls. From there we were left with 48 players and ranked the next 16 and repeated the process until all 68 players had a seed. The seeds were then hidden on the bracket in an attempt not to anger anyone because of their seeding and to make things more interesting (so people wouldn't just vote a 1 seed over a 16 seed just based on their seed).

TvL wrote on 07/08/06 at 01:37:29:

I didn't want to bring this back up again while I was in the contest, or people might think I'd just be saying this to get votes.

I'm still willing to put together a sub-contest, like a UEFA cup (do early drop-outs from the CL get to join too? ). Although it would of course be less than half as slick and well-organized as the real thing. No bio's, just polls at General Discussion. But maybe it would help to diminish the gap between being in the contest or not.


Does anyone think this would be a good idea? Or not?


If it's going to be, I'd need help of course. For one, I wouldn't always be able to open and close all the polls at the right time. Also, to help thinking of a good way to go about all this. There might be the need for (again) a selection committee. Or maybe that the list of nominees for the real contest would suffice?
Who would be willing to help? Or are there suggestions?

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That's wrong for a start  

The people who made the contest know who should be in the contest , they must have stood out for to be chosen i guess.

I've been thinking about what would be the best way to select contestants( maybe as a suggestion for next time) and I admit it is not easy.  Some thoughts I had would be to further limit the amount of people who get in based on previous contests.  Maybe the top 4 contestants of the previous contest would be a good cutoff.  I just don't think that the top 16 of the last contest will necessarily be the best choices.  Thats not to say that the others can't make it in, just that they won't get included automatically that way.  Another idea might be to allow each section of kart to nominate a certain number of karters through poll or discussion, or any democratic way really.  Basically, the smk community will nominate their favorite karters, and the mk64 community nominates their favorite.... and so on.  This can be repeated in the general topic as well to pick up any other people who may have been left out.  
Anyway, i think this competition has turned out just fine (im excited about it  ), but I thought i'd offer some ideas anyway.

Gregor Fran wrote on 07/10/06 at 20:21:59:


1/3 from previous contest is too much (as people are complaining about 1/4 being too much this time).  Maybe next time we'll go to 128 karters to settle this dispute.  the purpose of not having huge forum involvement was that this was supposed to be a suprise.

Tanney had 32 videos first:p.......i presume anyway, it was a long time ago.  

I was slightly suprised to find my name in the list actually.  I was pretty active for almost 2 years but recently my degree and now summer placement have caught up with me.  I can understand gregor being miffed but there is no perfect system.  It's always a problem when people who havn't been active for a long  period but when they were contributed greatly to the comminuty etc.  This is often unoticed obviously by newer members and theres not much anyone can do about it other then writing a short biography (which has been done).  I better write one! Though i havn't had time to find out when my match-up is and i'm against marius so whats the point......  

Dave

gingerscot wrote on 07/11/06 at 07:42:31:

Well it came from the horse's mouth that I was most likely the first (refer to the March 1st 05 update please).  I may be wrong but I am using Penev's post as a reference for this fact.  He knows more about the history of the game than I do so what he says goes, right?  Tanney's GOD collection came later.  Maybe he did videos before that, but neither Penev nor myself can remember a complete collection, otherwise he (Penev) would have mentioned it.  I don't lie.  If, in fact, my collection wasn't the first, I won't mention it again and kudos to whoever did it first.  I just thought that to be true and have had no reason to believe otherwise.  For all the other stuff I did, I will be happy to provide links to the interview I did.  Unfortunately, I didn't bring recording equipment to my meeting with Sessler and Webb, but I did get their autographs, which I can show if desired.