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Reply #3800 - 12/21/07 at 10:31:00
 
Nice job Guilio, those runs are pretty sick.
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Reply #3801 - 12/21/07 at 12:32:23
 
RCI2: 46"074/ 15"109
If you don't mind I'll do the videos tommorow, I had an operation today and I'll sleep soon Wink
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Reply #3802 - 12/21/07 at 12:37:40
 
たべい・1 wrote on 12/21/07 at 12:32:23:
RCI2: 46"074/ 15"109
If you don't mind I'll do the videos tommorow, I had an operation today and I'll sleep soon Wink


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Reply #3803 - 12/21/07 at 12:39:23
 
たべい・1 wrote on 12/21/07 at 12:32:23:
RCI2: 46"074/ 15"109
If you don't mind I'll do the videos tommorow, I had an operation today and I'll sleep soon Wink



Has an operation and still finds time to PR.  Shocked Tongue  Looking forward to the vid  Wink
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Reply #3804 - 12/21/07 at 14:57:16
 
Timothy wrote on 12/21/07 at 12:39:23:
たべい・1 wrote on 12/21/07 at 12:32:23:
RCI2: 46"074/ 15"109
If you don't mind I'll do the videos tommorow, I had an operation today and I'll sleep soon Wink



Has an operation and still finds time to PR.  Shocked Tongue  Looking forward to the vid  Wink

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Reply #3805 - 12/22/07 at 00:12:52
 
I have an interesting question to ask Grin I did my time with yoshi, and I recorded my live ghost with dry bones. And apparently, it seems that I had touched some mud, since my db time is 0.004 faster than my yoshi's one xD
The question is, does it count or not?
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Reply #3806 - 12/22/07 at 00:20:06
 
たべい・1 wrote on 12/22/07 at 00:12:52:
I have an interesting question to ask Grin I did my time with yoshi, and I recorded my live ghost with dry bones. And apparently, it seems that I had touched some mud, since my db time is 0.004 faster than my yoshi's one xD
The question is, does it count or not?


I think it should be allowed, simply because a ban would be unenforceable, but I'm not sure so I'd like to hear some other opinions.
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Reply #3807 - 12/22/07 at 02:08:05
 
Why should you allow a time that never was really driven physically? (Dont know how to say it right). If Thomas raced a time with yoshi, and watching the gohst with Dry Bones gives a faster time, why would youi allow that, the race with Dry Bones never really happened (wasn't driven by Thomas)
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Reply #3808 - 12/22/07 at 02:19:50
 
I have an interesting question to ask Grin. I did a 1.17.001 on Figure-8 Circuit. But with my Action Replay I got 1.02.223. The question is, does it count or not?
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Reply #3809 - 12/22/07 at 02:40:36
 
たべい・1 wrote on 12/22/07 at 00:12:52:
I have an interesting question to ask Grin I did my time with yoshi, and I recorded my live ghost with dry bones. And apparently, it seems that I had touched some mud, since my db time is 0.004 faster than my yoshi's one xD
The question is, does it count or not?



wouldnt that slightly alter the driving line too? i dont think thats acceptable, i think only the yoshi time should be counted... also i was thinking, couldnt people theoretically alter the input of the live ghosts at certain time to create better times?
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Reply #3810 - 12/22/07 at 04:09:51
 
The same thing happened with me on RKB2.  I used dry bones, but put Rob in for the live replay.  On the final lap, I clipped some grass quite heavily, and because Rob slowed down more he somehow took a tighter line.  It only got .002 faster but w/e.  Tongue
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Reply #3811 - 12/22/07 at 06:22:26
 
Curaga. wrote on 12/22/07 at 02:40:36:
たべい・1 wrote on 12/22/07 at 00:12:52:
I have an interesting question to ask Grin I did my time with yoshi, and I recorded my live ghost with dry bones. And apparently, it seems that I had touched some mud, since my db time is 0.004 faster than my yoshi's one xD
The question is, does it count or not?



wouldnt that slightly alter the driving line too? i dont think thats acceptable, i think only the yoshi time should be counted... also i was thinking, couldnt people theoretically alter the input of the live ghosts at certain time to create better times?

Yeah they could. If TB1 runs a new live replay with dry bones now then you won't be able to see that it isn't his "real" run anymore. If he hadn't said he actually used yoshi then he could've tricked us easily Tongue
Part of the trust system i guess. Even if some people decide to "cheat" this way it's at least only very minor improvements you get out of it Smiley
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Reply #3812 - 12/22/07 at 07:24:49
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gVWDHKolGQE
New F8C FLAP non prb WR by Lewis Benny aka Unreal (24"497, 1st sub 24"5) Wink
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Reply #3813 - 12/22/07 at 07:40:38
 
たべい・1 wrote on 12/22/07 at 07:24:49:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gVWDHKolGQE
New F8C FLAP non prb WR by Lewis Benny aka Unreal (24"497, 1st sub 24"5) Wink


Finally someone took that bad 1st lap WR.
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Reply #3814 - 12/22/07 at 08:40:08
 
Michael F wrote on 12/22/07 at 00:20:06:
たべい・1 wrote on 12/22/07 at 00:12:52:
I have an interesting question to ask Grin I did my time with yoshi, and I recorded my live ghost with dry bones. And apparently, it seems that I had touched some mud, since my db time is 0.004 faster than my yoshi's one xD
The question is, does it count or not?


I think it should be allowed, simply because a ban would be unenforceable, but I'm not sure so I'd like to hear some other opinions.


I don't think it should be allowed.

Anyway tb is happy with is 46"074 i think  Grin
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Reply #3815 - 12/22/07 at 09:21:37
 
yes Grin
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Reply #3816 - 12/22/07 at 14:42:32
 
AR is a device that let's us make live replays not improve our times.

Even if it is thousandths, when does it become okay or not.  You did not drive that time so no.

I believe in the trust system for the best times and I think you guys are mature enough to not pull antics like this.

Moral of the story, always use dry bones!

nonprb are not wr's, they are sr's, lol
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Reply #3817 - 12/22/07 at 15:09:28
 
Well he did actually drive that xD.  If he happened to have used dry bones then he would have got that time.  That would be funny to see if peoples times improved if they used different characters on the live ghost replay  Grin
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Reply #3818 - 12/22/07 at 15:22:12
 
If he had been driving with dry bones he would not have gotten that time because he would've adjusted to the difference in his run. His reaction throughout the rest of the race would most likely have been different. Unless TiBi plays with his eyes closed of course Tongue
Maybe he would've gotten a better time. Maybe he would've gotten a worse time or maybe he would've crashed.
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Reply #3819 - 12/22/07 at 15:27:51
 
chesting snacker stelzig wrote on 12/22/07 at 15:22:12:
If he had been driving with dry bones he would not have gotten that time because he would've adjusted to the difference in his run. His reaction throughout the rest of the race would most likely have been different. Unless TiBi plays with his eyes closed of course Tongue
Maybe he would've gotten a better time. Maybe he would've gotten a worse time or maybe he would've crashed.


I disagree because, up until the very end, he had kept prb for the whole time.  Therefore the drive would have been identical, because the variation in kart weight would not have been an affecting factor.  The only point where the run changed was right at the very end, where he lost prb and barely touched the mud.  Well, maybe I'm bullshitting, but I actually think this should be allowed  Grin
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Reply #3820 - 12/22/07 at 15:42:31
 
Well if that is how it happened then it's a little more plausible. I still say no though for what etch said.
Plus the visional illusion in how the characters bend when MTing which does affect your turning a little as well Tongue
Or maybe illusion is the wrong word for it as it isn't an illusion. The character does bend more. The turn is just the same anyway.
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Reply #3821 - 12/22/07 at 18:43:18
 
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Reply #3822 - 12/22/07 at 23:54:47
 
Timothy wrote on 12/22/07 at 15:27:51:
Well, maybe I'm bullshitting, but I actually think this should be allowed


ha ha ha ha, no  Tongue

Even Sascha knew times like this are not allowed, not a new thing.  You have to physically drive the time folks!

Just when you think Ben is off the charts he is back again and Thomas gets his CI2 times back again!

The new WP flap makes this the 8th WR tie of the year.
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Reply #3823 - 12/23/07 at 00:40:49
 
たべい・1 wrote on 12/22/07 at 07:24:49:
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Reply #3824 - 12/23/07 at 03:04:35
 
About TB's CI2:

It's an AR time --> automatically not allowed

Why should it be approved? -_-
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