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Reply #1875 - 12/19/06 at 00:05:20
 
FalcoX wrote on 12/18/06 at 13:47:08:
Really annoying. Getting a new Sr and then hearing the Sr isn't good because the prb rules will be changed............
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Edit: The prb rules should be more specific. There are still a lot of places where I could prb. But if I did the prb rules would be changed again like at dh and like now ...  Lips Sealed

If you just had a little sense you would've known how obvious it is that you can't PRB again in lap2 Roll Eyes
Just stop trying to look for loopholes in the rules. There are there to make sure PRB isn't overused not for people to try and find ways to use it in alternative ways...
When the rules say that you may PRB to this point it means to that point and not that you can do it again later on in the same run... If you could do that there would be no meaning in saying that you can't do it in between (Most of the time - pixel rule)

Wouldn't take long to make the rules more "specific" though. Just add the sentence "after this point you cannot PRB anymore" and maybe even Sascha will understand it then.
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Reply #1876 - 12/19/06 at 03:22:24
 
For once I agree with Stelzig,he makes a lot of sence. Sorry sascha you can't bend the rules like that. Its just not fair to those who stick by the rules and play with no advantages other then new strats and new karts.

For example RCM1 and RBP.

Strats like that should basically be the only advantage allowed. BTW thinking of using a standard kart on the RFS flap  Lips Sealed

Thats why we have a Wr based on all known sites including PRB. PP rules shouldn't have PRB.

Also I watched JoshG's DH SR,that made me angry because its not fair to PRB that either,because some of us didn't,and it also saves almost as much as going through the pyramid.



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Reply #1877 - 12/19/06 at 03:43:18
 
Ben wrote on 12/19/06 at 03:22:24:
Also I watched JoshG's DH SR,that made me angry because its not fair to PRB that either,because some of us didn't,and it also saves almost as much as going through the pyramid.





How is it not fair because some people haven't done it?  Lots of people haven't prbed at all on any of the courses...
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Reply #1878 - 12/19/06 at 03:47:06
 
JoshG wrote on 12/19/06 at 03:43:18:
Ben wrote on 12/19/06 at 03:22:24:
Also I watched JoshG's DH SR,that made me angry because its not fair to PRB that either,because some of us didn't,and it also saves almost as much as going through the pyramid.





How is it not fair because some people haven't done it?  Lots of people haven't prbed at all on any of the courses...


I'm not against you,I know its not your fault,its just annoying,why don't we just not PRB,then we wouldn't have to worry. Undecided Like not PRB that way.
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Reply #1879 - 12/19/06 at 03:54:34
 
I think we're allowed to prb there because some people have done it the same as me without touching any sand but still keeping prb.  So it has to be allowed because of the pixel rule.
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Reply #1880 - 12/19/06 at 04:10:02
 
I agree with you Ben, PRB rules were created to keep the chances for all karters on the same level, some of us never used prb though. If we allow to use prb like this, the prb rules would be worthless and we can fully allow it on all courses. I think we should get away from prb at all.
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Reply #1881 - 12/19/06 at 04:21:38
 
The rules say it's allowed untill the waterpart. So it would  only break the rules for 3lap but nor for flap because at lap 2 I prbed only the places it is allowed. Grin
Now people blaming me having no sense: no comment  Lips Sealed Grin
Seems  these peoples blaming me have no sense ... Roll Eyes
At dh: you also could have gone right to the threes on affect and the pixel rule wasn't used ... Like at mc where you amy go at the sc if it's in affect. But I did this and the time didn't get accepted. It seems like some people are looking if they can use the new strat and if they don't like it, they tell the admins to forbid it...  Not looking at the old rules and if it can happen in affect ect.
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Reply #1882 - 12/19/06 at 04:26:48
 
Since the site has not been changed for something that was up for debate awhile ago.The 'NO RULES' steys here,as roy03 said things would get out of control.

I believe that,some of the current rules that include using PRB that is allowed,should be updated and as Sascha said,be more detailed,but for that time period those rules were made,you should of known what they ment.





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Reply #1883 - 12/19/06 at 04:58:48
 
FalcoX wrote on 12/19/06 at 04:21:38:
The rules say it's allowed untill the waterpart. So it would  only break the rules for 3lap but nor for flap because at lap 2 I prbed only the places it is allowed. Grin
Now people blaming me having no sense: no comment  Lips Sealed Grin

Lap 2 are still the waterpart the second time.... UNTIL the water part. Even though your record is done in lap 2 you have still reached the waterpart ones already, and as you said it is allowe UNTIL the waterpart, a place wich you have already been so you are not allowed to do it anymore.

But okay. Let's not call you one with no sense, just twisted sense. You seem to think that just because lap 1 are not part of the record, it doesn't count as part of your run, even though it most cerainly do since you could not have raced the way you did in lap 2 in lap 1.


But ok. Because ONE person after several months like to act dumb and looks for loop-holes i suggest we just add the obvious info "You are ONLY allowed to PRB in lap 1 all other laps are completely forbidden unless it is specifcally explained that you can (Zipper PRB restarts might make it allowed in other laps)" so it is clear for him what he may not do, and then wait until he will attempt finding another loop hole that are not explained completely, but just understandable for everyone with common sense.

Although i believe the part Cole already pointed out explains this as well --> latest point in that race where you're allowed to use prb-racing.  (Lap 2 later than lap 1)
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Reply #1884 - 12/20/06 at 05:17:14
 
Ben wrote on 12/18/06 at 17:47:06:
Yes I know,but I am saying we don't because,GOD is soppose to be the most it can go,just recreate current standards,only with perfect accuracy.




What's the point in re-working the standards? Just slap a +1 or +2 on there and voila...easily modified GOD standards >_>
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Reply #1885 - 12/20/06 at 05:33:28
 
the point of redoing the standards is to make them even... some of the standards at the moment do not represent true god pace, i.e they are easy to get in relation to others, if god+1+2...+n is added on to the gods without changing the times so the difficulty of each god is the same then different times will be reflected as if they are better than others when they may not be. Not that it really matters, but thats the only reason i can see for re doing them.

edit: imo sascha is very stupid
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Reply #1886 - 12/20/06 at 05:41:29
 
Magi Koopa wrote on 12/20/06 at 05:33:28:
the point of redoing the standards is to make them even... some of the standards at the moment do not represent true god pace, i.e they are easy to get in relation to others, if god+1+2...+n is added on to the gods without changing the times so the difficulty of each god is the same then different times will be reflected as if they are better than others when they may not be. Not that it really matters, but thats the only reason i can see for re doing them.

edit: imo sascha is very stupid




Well, I kinda see a point here, but most of the GOD standards now are probably ok...I know some of them are easy for players but most of them are ok for like GOD+0 which is normal GOD, and the people who have hit the GOD times probably deserve it on certain tracks....then when you add the GOD+1 and GOD+2 etc, only the real pros will be hitting these times so it might be ok.
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Reply #1887 - 12/20/06 at 05:44:49
 
Desert Hills 1:12:208 Cool
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BY the way: what do you want with your  edit, magi koopa? I don't think it has something to do with Wr charts so who's stupid now? Lips Sealed
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Reply #1888 - 12/20/06 at 08:21:11
 
Bowser Castle new flap WR  Grin
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Reply #1890 - 12/20/06 at 12:41:43
 
Le Mammouth DHTM wrote on 12/20/06 at 11:01:05:


WTF you are obsessed with getting perfection on this course when you already have the WR O_O


BTW I got 8.189 on BP (with wario Cheesy) within 3 tries, and the first corner was kinda bad, so I think 8.16 or 8.15 is possible or better with the current strat
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Reply #1891 - 12/20/06 at 14:16:44
 
FalcoX wrote on 12/20/06 at 05:44:49:
Desert Hills 1:12:208 Cool
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BY the way: what do you want with your  edit, magi koopa? I don't think it has something to do with Wr charts so who's stupid now? Lips Sealed


what i meant by it was, no one could seriously think that they could prb the first lap then start the second lap in a better position then prb what was supposed to only be done in the first lap and then call it a non prb time and even complain when it wasnt allowed in the charts.
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Reply #1892 - 12/20/06 at 17:21:37
 
http://wrvids.com/Mario%20Kart/MKDS/Fastest%20Available%20Vids/af-34870replay...

What the heck  Shocked what did you do at the start?,and before the flames? amazing,FalcoX, thomas has more skills then you  Tongue  Shocked

Good strat,how much time does it save compared to the other one?
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Reply #1893 - 12/20/06 at 17:52:00
 
Ben wrote on 12/20/06 at 17:21:37:
http://wrvids.com/Mario%20Kart/MKDS/Fastest%20Available%20Vids/af-34870replay...

What the heck  Shocked what did you do at the start?,and before the flames? amazing,FalcoX, thomas has more skills then you  Tongue  Shocked

Good strat,how much time does it save compared to the other one?


maybe 0.05
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Reply #1894 - 12/20/06 at 22:15:30
 
Far out man  :'( ALL MY DATA GOT DELETED!!!  :'( Everything,I turn off my DS,to eat,turn it back on,everything was gone!!!.

DKP/RFS,were the only courses I cared about,and now there gone  Embarrassed

I always lie about leaving,I was going to come back,but since this happend,I can't.

I Quit  Embarrassed


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Reply #1895 - 12/21/06 at 01:35:07
 
Ben wrote on 12/20/06 at 22:15:30:
Far out man  :'( ALL MY DATA GOT DELETED!!!  :'( Everything,I turn off my DS,to eat,turn it back on,everything was gone!!!.

DKP/RFS,were the only courses I cared about,and now there gone  Embarrassed

I always lie about leaving,I was going to come back,but since this happend,I can't.

I Quit  Embarrassed


10 mins later... "hey everybody, im back!"
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Reply #1896 - 12/21/06 at 01:47:36
 
How did it happen Ben? You played WiFi before?
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Reply #1897 - 12/21/06 at 04:26:39
 
I don't do something else at the start. Theres only one difference at the part after the pyramid. I think it  saves like 0.1s each lap.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #1898 - 12/21/06 at 05:37:00
 
Ben wrote on 12/20/06 at 22:15:30:
Far out man  :'( ALL MY DATA GOT DELETED!!!  :'( Everything,I turn off my DS,to eat,turn it back on,everything was gone!!!.

DKP/RFS,were the only courses I cared about,and now there gone  Embarrassed

I always lie about leaving,I was going to come back,but since this happend,I can't.

I Quit  Embarrassed
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If this happens to me,I am only playing FS  Smiley


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Reply #1899 - 12/21/06 at 06:17:44
 
Cool RFS4ever.
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