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The SG PRB rules are stupid as hell
04/11/06 at 04:52:55
 
the rules are you can prb and then jump over the the cloud which is completely un natural and if is considered natural somehow, u still should be able to keep mting as fast as possible for ur times... slowing down ur mts to make sure u dont prb the next corner which is more natural to cut then jumping to the right of the boost ramp is stupid... the whole prb thing sucks... just allow it for everything already, but this track in particular has a stupid rule dont know if anyone else agrees with me but thats my opinion and im entitled to it.
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Re: The SG PRB rules are stupid as hell
Reply #1 - 04/11/06 at 05:19:31
 
And the point of the topic is...?
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Reply #2 - 04/11/06 at 05:27:15
 
read what i wrote and then u tell me, im pretty sure its about the sg prb rule  Undecided

point = inform people it sux
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Reply #3 - 04/11/06 at 07:33:19
 
Going through the clouds right of the ramp and jumping the gap is natural.  Many people do that on laps 2 and 3 without prb and it's faster than going over the ramp.
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Reply #4 - 04/11/06 at 07:35:50
 
^It is? Shocked

Better try to play SG again soon. Then sub 1:12 should be really easy Grin
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Reply #5 - 04/11/06 at 07:45:27
 
I think you're crazy when you say that it's natural, Fried, and that's the only time I'll disagree with you.
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Re: The SG PRB rules are stupid as hell
Reply #6 - 04/11/06 at 07:47:32
 
Frenger wrote on 04/11/06 at 07:35:50:
^It is? Shocked

Better try to play SG again soon. Then sub 1:12 should be really easy Grin


Last time I tested it (which was quite awhile ago), the fastest strat was jumping over the ramp, followed by going through the clouds, followed by going through the ramp.  Iirc going through the clouds was only slightly faster than going through the ramp.
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Reply #7 - 04/11/06 at 07:48:15
 
If it really goes faster without PRB as well, it is natural. I don't see how it could be though. Same for the PRB part, but since everyone else seems to save time on it, it might be.
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Reply #8 - 04/11/06 at 12:08:28
 
Adam Leibach wrote on 04/11/06 at 07:45:27:
I think you're crazy when you say that it's natural, Fried, and that's the only time I'll disagree with you.

I think I used to go right of that ramp before I knew about prb.  I don't see what's unnatural about it.  It might be faster to jump over the ramp without prb than it is to go around it without prb, but I could only jump over it like 1/10 times so I just went around it instead.
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Reply #9 - 04/11/06 at 13:08:20
 
Dude, the whole PRB factor is bullshit, it's the main reason I quit time trials, I really want to use PRB to the fullest but it's not allowed, I wish I could join the french site. :'(
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Reply #10 - 04/11/06 at 13:09:49
 
i never even knew going to that route was faster! what the hell was I thinking! I've been jumping the ramp the whole time!
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Reply #11 - 04/11/06 at 14:27:48
 
Dude, the whole PRB factor is bullshit, it's the main reason I quit time trials, I really want to use PRB to the fullest but it's not allowed, I wish I could join the french site.

It's allowed, just separate.  Submit your prb times here:

http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/mkds_glitch/
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Reply #12 - 04/11/06 at 14:29:22
 
No, I want my prb times to be the wr's. because thats what they are, wr's.
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Reply #13 - 04/11/06 at 14:30:54
 
i beat pobre's SG flap with Dry bomber >_> 33.5xx, but's it's like 00.010 lower Cheesy.

i never knew that it was faster to jump over the gap on 2 and 3... i got 1:14:XXX without that.
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Reply #14 - 04/11/06 at 16:15:32
 
The Stoners Grin wrote on 04/11/06 at 14:29:22:
No, I want my prb times to be the wr's. because thats what they are, wr's.

Then ignore the rules and just play for the fun of it (or just submit to cyberscre). That's what I do and it's fine. The scores here aren't WRs anyway...

I don't get why the PRB rules are considered fair. What's natural and unnatural is entirely opinion, yet you base it on that. You also can't base the PRB rules on WR strategies since many of us aren't even close to that level.
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Reply #15 - 04/11/06 at 16:48:07
 
For all people here in general, if you do not like the rules here then leave, nothing is keeping you from doing that.
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Reply #16 - 04/11/06 at 17:06:54
 
even if jumping the cloud to the right is natural... somehow im not saying it isnt but doesnt seem natural then why should people have to stop mting in order to lose prb to cut the next corner which is more natural? no one has answered that yet.
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Reply #17 - 04/11/06 at 17:13:03
 
Fried wants to link us to that bullshit Link to the yahoo groups for glitch times, when the PRB times should be the "MAIN FOCUS" on teh site, not some bullshit rules!
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Reply #18 - 04/11/06 at 17:16:12
 
If they are world records based on the sites rules then that means they are "SITE records" not "World records"
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Reply #19 - 04/11/06 at 17:41:49
 
hahahaha @ all the dumb PRB rules... Grin

lucky me i don't play time trials anymore either in this game!

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Reply #20 - 04/11/06 at 17:43:03
 
even if jumping the cloud to the right is natural... somehow im not saying it isnt but doesnt seem natural then why should people have to stop mting in order to lose prb to cut the next corner which is more natural? no one has answered that yet.

If you can keep up the prb after jumping the gap without taking an awkward route then I'd be interested in seeing a vid of that.  I can't imagine how it would be done.  The way I do it is 1 L MT, then 1 R MT which runs out just about when I jump the gap, and there's no time to do another MT quickly enough to continue the prb.  If you do something like 2 L MTs, then an R MT then I'm pretty sure you'd need to take an awkward route, but as I said, if you don't agree then feel free to make a vid and prove me wrong.
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Reply #21 - 04/11/06 at 17:45:58
 
thanks, for that fried. i was wondering how not to make an awkward route to continue it... ._.
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Reply #22 - 04/11/06 at 19:22:36
 
ok i just did it not awkward at all my camera isnt with me atm but i will make a vid of it asap, its easy  as jumping over into a right mt then left left... not hard it would work even better if u could do the first right mt to the right of the first root...
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Reply #23 - 04/11/06 at 19:25:06
 
i honestly dont like the PRB rules :/ if they didnt have them i would have 1:08-1:07 for SG
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Reply #24 - 04/11/06 at 19:44:58
 
yer, mark its possible to prb that section perfectly natural huh? and then nothing stops u from then snaking the straight and making the shortcut with prb...
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